Game Day Warriors
7:06 AM EST Dave Johnson checking in.. yes we need to move on. The game against the Bulls’ was another reminder of our need to improve as a defensive rebounding team and with our response against physical teams like the Bulls. Tonight’s opponent Golden State is not a physical team and is more of a foot loose and fancy free team. The games against the Warriors are usually wild—- Wizards won both meetings against the Warriors and shot 51 % from the field while averaging 115 points-per-game. As you know by now….Al Thornton has been waived and reportedly might end up in Golden State. Thornton’s exit triggered by log jam at small forward with Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard, and now Maurice Evans. ….Hope you can join us tonight.THE BLOGCAST..live radio and live blogging…we invite you to connect with yours truly and Glenn Consor as we take you inside the game from Verizon Center….Wizards basketball this year can be heard on NINE radio stations from Baltimore to North Carolina. Our flagship station in Washington is 106.7 FM and in Baltimore Fox 1370 SportsRadio..and there will be a LISTEN LIVE link at the top of the page. Also if you have an iphone or ipad you can listen through an App called tunein radio. We start at 7:00 PM….hope you can join us.
5:05PM….Dave and Glenn checking in…..have to get back on defense tonight…The Ellis/Curry guard combination will present a challenge.
6:32 PM…..starters are in…Wizards will go with John Wall and Nick Young at guards…JaVale McGee at center….Josh Howard and Andray Blatche at forward….Warriors will have Stepehn Curry and Monta Ellis at guards….rookie Ekpe Udoh, Dorell Wright and David Lee at forwards
Posted: March 2nd, 2011 under Wizards.
Comments
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM
Hmmm, maybe I should have looked at the Post article before letting my fingertips take over? We *did* buy him out, and EG says we *don’t* plan any more signings.
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Comment from JayP
Time March 2, 2011 at 1:32 AM
The wizards should try and make a move for yao ming or a rebounding machine like David lee or Kevin love!
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Sure, wake me up when this happens because I couldn’t even make this happen on NBA 2K11 (and I’m using cheat codes).
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM
LOL…We have had more players come through here than a football team’s summer camp…lol….and we still don’t have a team together…
anyhoot, i’m looking for big things to happen this summer (atleast a key piece or two for the future)
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM
@ Tom M
You mentioned in the last thread you believe McGee is much better than Blatche when Arthritic said they’re basically mirror images of each other.
* Can you provide some stats to support your claim?
* After the stats, how about some general observations of what goes on during games? You watch games so I want to know what you see (I’m not going to be like proof and claim you don’t watch; what you say and not say will easily let me know if you do watch). I want to read your opinions on how aspects of fundamental basketball is impacting McGee and Blatche; in areas such as
a) rebounding
b) boxing out
c) shooting
d) team play vs. selfish play
c) setting screens
e) playing/moving without the ball
f) weak-side help defense
g) strong-side help defense
h) court awareness (in general)
i) rotations on defense
j) “protecting the paint”
k) “shadowing”
l) transition offense and defense
m) defensive positioning
n) offensive positioning
o) playing within “the system”
p) knowing where your teammates want the ball
q) knowing where you want the ball
r) knowing when your teammates are going to shoot
s) teammates knowing when you’re going to shoot
t) playing zone defense
u) playing man defense
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM
What I see with the Wizards’ staff is a lack of ability in acquiring defensive minded players. This organization has always been about offense, starting back with Gilbert, Jamison, and now Blatche. Even Flip has been criticized in the past for not focusing on defense. Until we begin getting lock-down, hard-nose defensive players in here, we will continue to struggle. I remind you, prior to Flip, Detroit won two championships with mainly what? DEFENSE.
As seen night-in & night-out, our offense fluctuates. However, we should have a team where our defense is great all the time. It just requires a will to play defense. If we can hold a team to 80 points, that means we only need to score 81 to win. Defense is the key, because all teams have nights where they struggle offensively. And since we seem to have more than most, we should make sure we get players that play just as hard on defense as they do on offense. In other words, complete players.
Again, I blame the staff.
Comment from gray16
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:45 AM
@tom,
i disagree that javale is better than blatche in every way, defensively he is not. as bad as blatche can be on some nights defensively (mainly due to lack of effort), he still plays better defense than mcgee imo. mcgee is a great shot blocker, but his shot blocking also leads to a lot of offensive rebounding, fouls, and mistimed jumps. man on man, blatche is a much better defensive player imo. help defense is where blatche has his problems, but even with mcgee’s shot blocking, his dumb decisions just about eliminate any positive effects he has on defense.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:15 AM
1) ”What I see with the Wizards’ staff is a lack of ability in acquiring defensive minded players. ”
CMon son!! defense can be taught to players, just like everything else.
2) “(I’m not going to be like proof and claim you don’t watch…) what you say and not say will easily let me know if you do watch”
lol…the last time i mentioned that I said he never watched a live game(j/k)…he moved up in status and got a projector and reel, i mean a dvr
3) AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST
JAVALE VS BLATCHE?!?!?!?!?!?!!
Please don’t do this, this is like Etan vs Haywood, two underachievers that wouldn’t start on another team, fighting for nba status on the wiz….this is foolery, get rid of them both and get real big men….EG is at the helm for both periods of this nonsense…..not again Ernie (he is the common denominator in this madness)
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:22 AM
@ gray16
i think you and i watch nba similarly because your comments @ tom m are what i would also say about blatche.
i have bashed blatche for a long time now; but even at his worse, he’s still got a better basketball understanding on certain levels more than mcgee.
if i have to do a reclaimation project on only 1 wizard player, i would take blatche over mcgee. it’ll take years for mcgee to learn what i think blatche already knows (but is too lazy to care). however, blatche’s failures in the maturity department can be helped with (a) a psychologist and (b) a better support group.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM
@tom
i figured you would disagree. i’ve watched at least 80-90% of the games and i personally play A LOT of basketball. statistically, javale “produces” more. however, why do you think his teammates prefer not to pass him the ball? why do you think flip continues to single him out? (“javale this, javale that” during post game interviews)
he continues to make the same “mistakes” over and over. you learn from your mistakes, not repeat them for 3 seasons.
let’s be real.
there isn’t a single offensive move javale can do that blatche cannot (unless it has to deal with pure athleticism). blatche, when he tries, KNOWS how to play defense better than javale does. javale doesn’t know how to play defense and he continues to go for the block instead of helping out to stop the penetrator.
you can think your own way, but i know javale is not a better player than blatche is.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM
and im not saying blatche should start at the 5 because he’s a clear cut choice.
in my opinion… he’s the best option we currently have. i’d have him start over mcgee, and please god… not yi or HAMADY NDIAYE!!!
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Until we begin getting lock-down, hard-nose defensive players in here, we will continue to struggle. I remind you, prior to Flip, Detroit won two championships with mainly what? DEFENSE.
[no @ crozby; all 3 of detroit’s championships were predicated on BALANCE and TEAM PLAY moreso than on defense alone. “defense” was just a sexy mantra for them to lean on and because that’s what their public address announcer Mason said all the time.
2004: Detroit’s selfless team play destroyed the Lakers’ individual-mindedness. Although Billups ended up as the MVP, it was a total team effort and no one starter can say he’s much better than the rest of his teammates. If you look at the box scores, all the starters except for Ben Wallace had stats close to each other; unlike the Lakers where it was only Kobe and Shaq and the rest of the guys didn’t do anything.
1989 & 1990: Sure, they imposed “the Jordan rules” but once again, this team was packed with a nice balance of offense and defense. They intimidated the opponents by playing rough but playing rough is not the same as playing good defense. The backcourt of Thomas and Dumars led the way for the offense and the froncourt clamped down on the defense. Heck, even Rodman scored like 10 ppg before he only focused on rebounding and getting into people’s heads. James Edwards, John Salley, Vinnie “the microwave” Johnson, Rick Mahorn, Laimbeer – all them guys contributed on both offense and defense and knew their roles.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 12:39 PM
AB is not a better center than McGee, I don’t even think he’s a better four.
All blatche does is hit a few jumpers. AB doesn’t help anyone out and he doesn’t rotate, that’s why McGee’s man gets rebound when McGee helps out.
Flip calls McGee’s name because he is weak. He has just as many chances if not more to call out ab’s name if he so chooses….do you even watch the games?
Having offensive moves doesn’t weigh more than having a better defensive game….mute point for two underachievers that wouldn’t start for anyone else at this level.
Comment from dayle
Time March 2, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Proof, I assume you mean Flip is weak rather than
McGee?
Comment from ericw
Time March 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Really? We bought out Al Thornton? Because we have Rashard Lewis (who is old and sucking big time), Maurice evans (who is old and has never been good), and Josh Howard (who is old an injured)??
I still maintain that if Al stays with his SHORT jumper and drives to the basket he is effective on offense. And I can remember several standout performances on defense. I don’t like this one. I don’t like how he didn’t get minutes after his setbacks either.
Comment from Babakism
Time March 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM
I’m glad we bought out Thorton. I always liked him as a player and I feel if he is on a team where he isn’t “expected” to score that he can play a nice role and help out a playoff team. He probobly wasn’t in our plans next year since Lewis is still under contract and we are trying to get younger. This move bodes well for Cartier Martin who was looking like he wasn’t going to get any more minutes now that Jordan Crawford has arrived.
I think the Hawks are stupid to have given up Mo Evans. Mo would have been the best player to put on Lebron for them in the playoffs. Now they are stuck with Joe Johnson or Josh Smith who will probobly get in foul trouble.
Orlando is also stupid for giving up Michael Pietrus because he was there best defender to put on Wade and Lebron. in the playoffs. Or Derek Rose, Rondo, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM
First of all:
Proof (“son”): Defense takes heart and a strong will. Offense is more taught than defense. You have to spend more time teaching and working on offensive plays, placement on the court, ball movement, post-up moves, fakes, hook-shots, jump-shots, etc. to get close to perfection (as Jordan and Kobe has). Defense involves “wanting to do it”: moving your feet, putting a hand in a face, rotating to help, fighting for loose balls, rebounds, etc. I can teach defense in 5 minutes. Now whether the guy actually goes out and gives the effort is a whole different issue.
As for you bullets_fusion, read this from the Piston Encyclopedia:
“Prior to the 1986–87 season, the Pistons acquired more key players: John Salley (drafted 11th overall), Dennis Rodman (drafted 27th) and Adrian Dantley (acquired in a trade with the Utah Jazz). The team adopted a physical, defense-oriented style of play, which eventually earned them the nickname “Bad Boys.” In 1987, the team reached the Eastern Conference Finals, the farthest it had advanced since moving from Fort Wayne, against the Celtics.”
I’m just saying we need to concentrate more on acquiring better physical & defensive minded players. If not, I guess we are going to continue to rely on Blatche and McGee to slow down the Dwight Howard’s, the Amare Stoudemire’s, and the Blake Griffin’s of the league, right?
Comment from Babakism
Time March 2, 2011 at 1:57 PM
Detroit was all about D
Yes their offense was balanced, but everything started with D
Their D had nothing to do with Larry Brown
Their D had everything to do with Ben Wallace
Ben Wallace was the identity of that team
Larry Brown was not the difference maker as to why they got over the hump and won a championship
Rasheed Wallace was the difference maker
Rick Carlisle would have had the same success as Larry Brown, after all he was 1 game away from making it out of the conference finals the year before
How many players have you ever seen body up to Shaq, stick with him while he is backing them down, and then perfectly time a block on his dunk attempt????????
Ben Wallace is the only one I’ve ever seen.
The Pistons shut down Shaq because They were able to guard Shaq without help D on most plays because of Ben and Rasheed. On the plays where they gave help, they waited until the last possible second before sending the double team.
Right now Trevor Booker is our best defender and we need more players with his mentality to be succesful.
Seraphin seems defensive minded but he still has alot to learn which should pan out playing next to Booker.
John Wall has the tools but he is not there yet. However, if he has a good defensive back line behind him it will make him a better defender.
Non defenders – Mcgee Baltche Yi
Suspect defenders – NY Rashard
Josh and Mo are good defenders but I don’t know if we will see them again after these next 20 games Cartier aint bad either lol
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Babakism, I totally agree with you. You hit the nail on the head. Booker and Seraphin are the most physical guys on the team and hopefully that pays off for us down the road. We cannot continue to allow teams to score 100+ points on us and hope to win.
Again, we have got to get defensive minded guys in here that truly want to (and have the ability to) play tough defense, as well as smart defense.
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM
The bottom line is that we need our own set of Pistons’ “Bad Boys” here in D.C.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:51 PM
crozby, all i can say to that is you keep doing what you are doing/saying and i will keep doing what i am doing/saying (but i’m sure you will end up in a straight-jacket first)…must be a clone of getabig or something…lol
#youaretheweakestlink/blogger
Dayle, flip is weak because he is holding one out of four people accountable…tears up the team and is not good. JWall throws the ball away three straight times and gets a high-five…..unbelievable.
if anyone else wanted to give up a chunk of change, they would buy their contract out also…who can give up a few million is the question, not who deserves to go….
Comment from Wizards4Life
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:51 PM
i just got a droid x radio app so how can i find Dave and Glenn? is it just 106.7 or dose it change from DC to VA?
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM
it’s just 106.7 @ W4L, i have the same thing on my phone
the radio delays are the same (about 20-30 seconds compared with live/tv)
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM
The bottom line is that we need our own set of Pistons’ “Bad Boys” here in D.C.
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that’s fine — i’ll give you 12 michael ruffins for the wizards next season. he’s certainly representative of a “bad boy” via your definition. how many games do you think the team will win next year?
and once again, the balance and team play concept overrides the strictly defensive or strictly offensive stance.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Detroit beat L.A because they had two big men, and that series began the thought of having two big men down low….it’s why boston beat l.a. and why L.A. turned around and beat Boston the following year. It’s why San Antonio won also, they had another big down low with Duncan
Okay, we need to start giving credit where credit is due. Detroit’s GM saw what was needed and went and got it. Detroit’s coach played the proper players and emphasized defense. the players bought into the system and effectively won a championship.
No one wakes up or is born and knows how to play offense or defense. If you have been anointed with the skills and use them and are taught to use them, when and how, just as in any other of life’s endeavors, you will be successful.
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM
it’s difficult to look at the wizards mess objectively when every blogger has his/her favorite or most hated player(s), coach(es), general manager(s), and scout(s). this creates a bias.
i like wall. and so does griffonracing. and same with we want a winner. but proof is unsure.
babakism likes booker.
gabbo likes blatche and young, while tom m. doesn’t.
etc. etc.
and until we all get off our biases, we’ll not be able to solve anything.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM
yeah, what wizards_fusion said…lol
I have a droid and i’m still learning stuff about it…twitter has droid central or something that sends out messages about applications, etc……i was in georgia a few months ago and verizon had a droid class, but I wasn’t available to go. i havent’ looked to see if any classes were here yet.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:20 PM
@ fusey, gray16, arthritic, et. al. — I don’t want to be perceived as some big defender of JaVale. I’ve been pretty critical of him — and of his mom’s role too; she needs to move to Nevada or something, as I’ve said before.
But, for the first 20+ games of the season, JaVale played at a very high level. He had improved *significantly* and looked to be establishing himself as one of the top dozen Centers in the league. That would have made him an incredible draft-day bargain, as it’s hard to get that kind of guy at the #18 spot.
He has fallen off since then. For sure, he is some kind of annoying puzzle. Very immature, very low level of dedication to understanding how to play the game and his position. I find that especially odd in someone who has grown up in a basketball family. JaVale’s mom was a wnba pro, and his dad played college ball.
But I will stand by what I said — he’s a much more productive player overall than Dray. In itself, that’s not saying much, as Dray has been *awful* this year. In fact, I can’t see how it’s even slightly controversial. Yes, it’s more a measure of his physical gifts than his basketball IQ, but productivity is productivity. More prolific rebounder, much higher % shooter, doesn’t turn it over, etc. — but *again* don’t cast me as defending JaVale; better than Dray is not exactly high praise.
A good measure of the difference between them might be the fact that I can assure you it would be *very easy* to trade JaVale; it’s proved impossible to trade Dray.
As to which one of them is the better defender, get out of here with that! Neither of them is any good!
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Bullet_fusion, I never said that defense should override offense (read my post more carefully). I’m simply saying that a player should be 50/50- a complete player (or as close as he can get). We presently don’t have many good defenders on our team.
I hire (and terminate) people on my job, and I always look at their strengths and compare them to their weaknesses. I always attempt to get the most complete person for the job. I also look at their past work very carefully, which is usually the best indicator of future work. The GM should know whether a player is a good defender or not. However, I just think that has not been taken seriously enough over the past few years. And now it shows.
Maybe, the bottom line is that Ernie doesn’t really know how to evaluate players.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:47 PM
@ crozby — one thing for sure: Ernie has always liked Blatche more than I think he deserved. In that sense, his ability to evaluate players can be questioned.
He’s also an “old-line” GM who relies on his experience and “intuition” and makes no use of statistical analysis. Young guys like Presti and Morey and Cho make *heavy* use of statistics, because they help you take your emotions out of the loop. Using numbers also suppresses the tendency to remember the good things — i.e. the small minority of fantastic games Dray has played — and discount the bad.
Comment from dlts20
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM
I wish his mother & family all the best but no Flip probably means a W for us. Has to be said
Comment from dlts20
Time March 2, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Tommy Boy, I want you and alot of other guys to remember this Dray stuff next year and probably even McGee. You keep putting the Dray stuff on me because I said he would do well but lets be real. He never had any chance to do anything until the end of last year and this year the broken foot set him way back.
Now dont get it twisted, he shouldve done more. He couldve worked harder and so on. There is no excuse for that. Still, Im kinda glad it worked out this way. He sucked bad enough to give us a high pick again this year, he should be healthy all offseason, and all the hate he got this year will inspire him to work harder. It has to. If it doesnt then he is a sad case but I suspect it will.
A motivated Dray with good work ethic and an injury free Offseason spells great player next year. I could easily see him taking a huge jump. He will be atleast as good as he was at the end of last year and I wouldnt be shocked if he was as good as a top notch PF. In regards to McGee, I made post and threads on other boards saying that he will be better this year but wont really show his true worth until the following year. I called that. He had too far to go and it was going to be his 1st chance of really starting. I also knew he would be bigger & stronger the following year.
Ernie & Flip knows this and thats why they are still here despite Booker & Seraphin probably being our best 4 & 5 right now. Judge them next year when they are healthy, a year older, and have been through the grind of being starters so they know what to expect
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM
@ dlts20 — Dray “will be at least as good as he was at the end of last year and I wouldnt be shocked if he was as good as a top notch PF. ”
I guess that’s why it was totally impossible to find a trade partner for him? (That’s why Dray is still here, btw…)
He “never had any chance to do anything” before last year? I see. So in ’08-09, when he played 24 minutes a game, he had no chance to do anything? Or the previous year, when he played almost 21 minutes a game — no chance then either? He didn’t do as much as you think “late last year” either.
Andray Blatche has broken more crystal balls than any player I know!!
But you may be right about JaVale — who is only 22.
Comment from Wizards4Life
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Yea. Thanks for the info. I have had this phone for 24 hours an I doubt I will ever figure it out. Its like using a pc for the first time
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Hey Wizards, go out there and win for your fans.
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM
If the plan is executed as it has been laid out, we will be a bad team for the next two seasons….As a fan, how much more can you ask the fan base to take? And again we had money to go after players however it was not in the plan, so we sat on it for another rainy day or year
This plan really needs to be revised
Comment from datkid88
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:34 PM
I’d rather see blatche on offense(more moves) then mcgee but I’d rather see mcgee on defense(players think twice about goin in the paint) then blatche so they cancel each other out lol. As for tonight wall/young vs ellis/curry is gonna make this a run and gun type game and should be fun to watch and hopefully we end this drought tonight….go wiz
Comment from gray16
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:54 PM
while i can’t stand blatche this season and have been one of the biggest haters of him this season, i still want him on the team next season, but that’s just me.
imo, you don’t perform the way he did at the end of last season for that period of time as a fluke, that’s showing your abilities imo. i still think dray can be that type of player, but he needs to be healthy and have the right state of mind.
last season he played much more confidently and from experience i can tell you confidence is one of the biggest parts of the game, if you want another example see nick young this season. confidence can make you go from your peak potential to your worst, and that is what imo is happening with blatche this season. i feel (and hope) that if blatche has a strong offseason and gets his mind and body right, we will see the talent this guy has next season. so i’m not quite ready to give up on him right now, especially since this season is already lost.
Comment from gray16
Time March 2, 2011 at 4:57 PM
oh but i’m still an advocate for benching blatche for his poor play if booker and seraphin are doing better than him. no need to repeatedly play him minutes this season when he nor the team is benefiting from it. and we can see that it isn’t.
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Blatche has already said that he is a finesse player. However, we need strength, speed, and power down low, especially for defense and offensive rebounds. Blatche has a problem jumping (watch tonight to see if he ever jumps for anything) and now he often loses the ball in the paint dribbling. When I watch Blake Griffin, Stoudemire, and Howard I see those guys skying for shots, rebounds, and blocks with power and speed and being active in the paint on defense by moving their feet (Blatche just stands there and watches). He could definitely be doing more with the body he has now. The question is: Why not?
Comment from gray16
Time March 2, 2011 at 5:50 PM
oh and @ tom,
i hear you on your productive measures of wp48 and all that, but as far as the tradeable argument, you also have to factor in the fact that dray is making more money than javale. more money = higher expectations. if dray’s contract was at the level of javale’s, his trade stock would definitely increase. just because javale is more productive, doesn’t mean other team’s want him on their team, he’s pretty much regarded as one of the dumbest players in the league. i don’t think many teams are looking to get javale any more than they are trying to get blatche, but that’s just my opinion. personally, i want both of them on the team for next season anyway, so i don’t care how tradeable they are right now, i care how much they improve next season.
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM
5:05PM….Dave and Glenn checking in…..have to get back on defense tonight…The Ellis/Curry guard combination will present a challenge.
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Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 7:18 PM
@ jeffmalone — “we had money to go after players”. Really? So, for example, how would you have spent the Wizards money this year?
Lets assume you start right after the draft, so that we have Wall, Seraphin, Booker and Hinrich — along with Al, Dray, McGee, Quintin Ross, Gil, and Nick Young.
That’s 10 guys, and their salaries = about $47m (this is before Dray’s raise and extension).
The minimum roster size is 13, so you need to add at least 3 more guys — but you may want to carry 14. The salary cap this year was about $56m, so you have $9m to get those 3-4 more guys.
Obviously, you have a plan — you said so above. So, please create a better team than we have now by adding 3-4 guys for your $9m left.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 2, 2011 at 7:19 PM
Actually, that’s 11 guys — so you are in great shape. Get 2-3 more guys of a level to have made us a better team for the $9m you have left.
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM
@Tom M-nice to see you again, this has more to do w\ trades as well as salary. And yes we were in position to add FA’s this year, but I know you realize that. To me, it has more to do with the direction of the team, more about being patient. See that works for a new franchise, not one that has a culture for losing. You must show the base at all costs as well as season ticket holders who invest in the team each year, that we want to win every year.
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 7:35 PM
6:32 PM…..starters are in…Wizards will go with John Wall and Nick Young at guards…JaVale McGee at center….Josh Howard and Andray Blatche at forward….Warriors will have Stepehn Curry and Monta Ellis at guards….rookie Ekpe Udoh, Dorell Wright and David Lee at forwards
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Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 7:51 PM
we get started with comments of assistant coach Randy Wittman at 7
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:11 PM
No Flip tonight… now i know were going to win!!!
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:11 PM
we are underway…glad you are here
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:16 PM
great start
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:22 PM
howard 2nd personal foul
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:22 PM
First team that plays D will win tonight, have a great call Dave and Glenn
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:25 PM
14-3 warriors runs
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:26 PM
I wish this team w\ dictate tempo on offense and defense, if we play Warriors style basketball we will not come close this game
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:34 PM
thanks jeffmalone and that is the story
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:35 PM
Dave you do a great job w\ transitions…….
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:35 PM
Thanks for the shout Dave and Glenn
, I wish this team had Jeff Malone, lol
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:37 PM
Glenn with the *reality check* of the night, no defense tonight, lol
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:39 PM
If he comes to a game part of the alumni, I am sure he can still put down a few. Not like Jeff was known for his exceptional dunking skills, lol. The shot is the last thing to go
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:42 PM
Glenn get a facebook page, I am sure Dave and I would really appreciate that, lol
Comment from fener6
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:47 PM
first time poster…
I called in a few times at the start of the season saying that McGee needs to stop playing like a chicken with its head cut off. Hasn’t changed. For him to become a key part of this team he needs to mature and learn the game, not just jump around.
John Wall playing with his heart as usual…can’t knock the kid for any of his mistakes.
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:48 PM
LMBO
, too funny Dave and Glenn
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:49 PM
alright this is golden state’s pace
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:50 PM
I think 3 pt shooting will also be the key tonight, with Young hurt I wonder if a Wizard will get hot beyond the arc?
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM
I wonder who has the lower career assist stats Nick young or Jeff Malone? All i know is neither guy saw a shot that they didn’t like!!! LOL (no disrespect)
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:56 PM
@Mr Know it All-I will take your comment as a badge of honor
They both love to fill it up, I can only hope Nick can have that kind of success
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 8:58 PM
13-4 gstate run
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM
The Wiz have to go inside like they were doing earlier!!!
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Subliminal message to the Wizards………… Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside, Go Inside
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:10 PM
great hustle as always from booker
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:15 PM
Curry for 3, well they have over 60 pts and on pace for 120…So we are giving up on avg a tad over 30 pts a qtr, not good
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:23 PM
O.K., New subliminal message to the Wizards……….. Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D, Play Some D
Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:26 PM
love it Mr Know it All , lol
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:31 PM
wall picks up second
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM
should be better
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:44 PM
25-6 fast break poins gstate
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:49 PM
better pressure on the ball now
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:50 PM
4rt foul on ellis
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 9:53 PM
We aren’t playing enough defense, and we never defend the 3 well
Comment from dlts20
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Fire this entire staff except for maybe Sam & Unseld. I cant stress enough how much I hate this system. Its horrible for our team. Go get Wall a fast break HC. We need an up & down system with real picks. Most will say we need a good defensive HC and I for one wanted Thibbedeau to be our HC before Flip and my other guy I have always loved is Skiles.
Skiles maybe free for us but still, I think the most important thing is the Franchise player and you have to do right by him. Wall is a fast break, up & down PG so thats what kinda coach you need to find. Then after that you can hire a defensive coach to work with that HC but we need to run and set real picks. I hate this system and I cant watch it another year. No one can get to the rim and trust me when I say that its not just the players
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Keep up the defensive intensity
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:09 PM
uh oh wall 4 fouls
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Booker’s defense is keeping us in this, only down 5. Lets go team.
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:26 PM
great come back but hurt by watsed possessions
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Wasted possessions and we allowed them to get on the offensive glass
Comment from crozby
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM
I said it earlier…Blatche does not jump.
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Down 4, 19 secs left, it’s not over yet.
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:34 PM
Nick YOung with an incredible 3.
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:34 PM
Down 3, 5 seconds left, this has to go to Nick.
Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:40 PM
1 800 636 1067 for post game
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM
In the 4th quarter Trevor Booker put the straps on Ellis and Curry, that is very impressive for a big man. We can be a better defensive team if he plays more minutes. I’m disappointed that it took the team about 40 minutes to wake up, but I’m happy they competed.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM
booker came into tonight’s game with 2:50 remaining in the first half. then he plays well and plays the majority of the second half. MAYBE HE SHOULD COME INTO THE GAME A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BEFORE WE GET DESTROYED ON THE GLASS???
that’s all i’m going to say.
and… lol we got away with a LOT of fouls in the 4th quarter
Comment from blueandgold123
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:54 PM
Of course the warriors plan would be to foul blatche at the end of the game to win.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 2, 2011 at 10:55 PM
@blueandgold123
what are you talking about???
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Blatche was decent, Crawford took some wild shoots, and Nick got hot. John still needs to cut down turnovers and work on his pace on offense.
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 2, 2011 at 11:05 PM
Wow Glen, 3-17 in the 4th quarter and GS still one. Stephen Curry is one of my favorite players to watch, I wish I had his jump shot.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time March 3, 2011 at 12:59 AM
It’s a shame we can’t make free throws. Had we been good on the ones where nobody guards you… we would have won the last two
Comment from blueandgold123
Time March 3, 2011 at 1:00 AM
@Arthritic
The last couple of seconds of the game, the mic from the camera crews picked up what the coach was saying to the warriors and he says for them to foul blatche to get the free throws in case nick or whoever would have made a three to tie the game.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 1:32 AM
oh.
well nick still missed the shot so that didn’t matter lol
Comment from Babakism
Time March 3, 2011 at 1:46 AM
Hey remember that time when Trevor Booker had 11 rebounds in only 19 minutes and was a +15 ???????????????????????
Comment from crozby
Time March 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Another instance where we did not play defense. In addition, we have got to find someone who can control the offensive boards for us besides just Booker.
Comment from Neal
Time March 3, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Jason Reid has an excellent article in the Post on having a hard cap. I agree with all of it except his approval of the franchise player designation. That makes no more sense to me than allowing a player to force a team to keep him on a year longer than his contract. Instead, they should drop the 5-year restriction on length of contracts.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM
I was only able to see the last 7 minutes of the game last night. It was good to see how hard the team fought.
Anyone know why Howard only had -19 minutes? His knee?
How about why JaVale had -18 minutes? He shot 50%, had 6 boards, and wasn’t in foul trouble. Why did we have Yi in the game in the 4th quarter instead of JaVale?
Stephen Curry is a real shooting guard. Compare his numbers to Nick’s last night to understand why he is a good player and Nick isn’t: much more efficient shooting, 9 rebounds, 5 assists. What a terrific young player Curry is.
But the player of the game by far was Trevor Booker. Wow. Someone explain to me why our best forward by far ISN’T STARTING.
(But Dray had a very good game last night too)
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM
Except for Booker, the entire bench was utterly horrible: in 63 combined minutes Evans, Seraphin, Lewis, Shakur, Crawford and Yi went 4-25 from the floor and managed 7 rebounds while committing 12 fouls.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM
@ crozby — of course we need better offensive rebounding, as you say. But we have an even bigger need for better *defensive* rebounding.
The Warriors missed 49 shots last night. We got 29 defensive boards.
We missed only 4 more shots than they did, yet they managed 40 defensive rebounds.
Comment from crozby
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:39 AM
I agree with you Tom (to a certain extent). More rebounding “period” is what we need.
I really believe Blatche could have more rebounds each and every night if he could only jump and play with more energy. He is 6’11″, and IMO he should be controlling the boards more (both defensively and offensively). If Trevor Booker had his height, he would be our future upcoming center, because of the energy he plays with down low. What we have now are two guys (McGee & Blatche) that are opposites. McGee has the athleticism, but not the skill. Blatche has the skill, but lacks the athleticism (including energy and speed). IMO, Blatche is overweight and has not attempted to seriously improve his body all year long.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM
as you all know, im always very critical of mcgee. i watched the game last night while trying to keep an objective view.
i admit, last night mcgee played okay. he still played some horrible defense, but that’s expected of him. i think the #1 thing he needs to learn is how to rebound. right now he relies on his length and jumping ability to rebound. he doesn’t really box out and he gets boxed out by guys smaller than him. in sooooo many instances, i saw him getting a running start from around the free throw line to try and get a rebound, only to get boxed out near the basket. if he could learn how to box out and rebound properly, he’ll average at least 10 rebounds. at least.
booker, on the other hand, is probably the most athletic guy on the team along with john. on top of his athleticism, he also has the brute strength with long arms and he CERTAINLY knows how to box out. he was a beast last night. the coaching staff can’t keep the beast on the bench until 2-3 minutes left in the first half… either make him come off the bench first or start him.
Comment from datkid88
Time March 3, 2011 at 1:53 PM
Saw the game and wittman clearly coached exactly like flip lastnight. Everytime yi comes in before booker in a game were we need d and rebounding I just get sick because AGAIN he is too soft and has nothing but a jumper, freethrow shooting and a j might be bookers only weakness(solid defender)I just don’t get it. I still think nick has a better offensive game then curry he has way more moves then him to breakdown his defender its just that curry is one of the best shooters in the league u can’t leave him any space or its like practice out there for him. And for once I just wanna see the wall/young/crawford/booker/mcgee lineup play together please!!
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 3, 2011 at 2:24 PM
Some of us have been blogging a lot about having a big man for the Wizards. Aside from fantasy trades of getting Dwight Howard or Joakim Noah here, we also talked about Demarcus Cousins (also a fantasy but his current team may tire of his immaturity).
Best Article all week for NBA. It is on Demarcus Cousins but moreso it is a nice blueprint to evaluate other Centers as well. Maybe I’m a fool to want this guy right now. ESPN Insider article, so I posted the whole thing.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Rookies-110302
How Cousins can reach his potential
By David Thorpe
Scouts Inc.
The next time you watch DeMarcus Cousins play, try analyzing him using just one word at a time. It’s an exercise I do when evaluating players. Here’s what I came up with when I watched him in person last Wednesday against Orlando: gigantic, lazy, gifted, infantile, physical, unafraid, vision, anticipation, lost, clueless, different, agile. My guess is you would come up with similar words after observing him.
Unlike many big men who enter the league, Cousins is already loaded with an NBA body and game. His talent jumps off the tape, stat sheets and court. Unfortunately, so do his flaws, especially the problem “between the ears.” Every player I’ve spoken to this season told me Cousins has the worst body language and facial expressions of any NBA player they’ve ever seen. And I was able to see many of the same things when I watched him up close.
So the question is: Can he fix his faults so he can become a real star in this league, or will he be held back by his immaturity issues?
Let’s look at three areas he and the Kings must address.
1. Mindset
Want to know what Cousins was thinking about before facing the world’s best center, Dwight Howard? Here was the scene close to two hours before tipoff in Orlando:
Orlando’s Jameer Nelson and Earl Clark were on one side of the court, with Sacramento’s Cousins and Beno Udrih on the other. And at center court was a group of middle-school age drummers and other marching band members, who were practicing their halftime performance.
Three players were working and sweating through their pregame shots, completely focused on making each shot and showing no signs that they were aware of who was at half court or what hip-hop music was being played in the arena. One player, however, was dancing here and there to the beats.
Cousins.
He was doing the customary spot shooting drill, where a player has to make 10 shots from one spot before moving to the next spot. But when the drummers started in, Cousins immediately looked in their direction and began dancing — not wildly or comedically, but still dancing. After a few seconds, he resumed his shooting, but he would frequently break back into a quick dance motion between shots. At one time he even paused his entire routine just to watch.
Why is this such a problem?
First, let’s be clear — he isn’t the only guy who dances before games. However, the veterans who do are able to have fun at no expense to their overall production. This may one day be the case for Cousins, but that day is far away.
Consider that the whole point of spot shooting is to help groove shot mechanics, and Cousins got nothing done from that perspective because he was far more focused on the music than on his shot. Consequently, during his routine, his mechanics changed dramatically every few shots. He does not have a repeatable stroke yet. I was not at all surprised that he badly missed some of his open jumpers during the game, despite the fact that he does have some talent as a shooter. In many ways, this describes the biggest part of Cousins’ problems: He is not locked in as a pro.
Most good players like Ray Allen and Shane Battier have a very rigid pregame routine, which starts the morning of the game and runs all the way to tipoff. These routines vary from pro to pro, but they are well-planned and scripted.
Cousins would greatly benefit from doing likewise (we’ll get into this more later). He is the Kings’ best talent, in my opinion, but he’s not good enough to walk through his pregame work and still expect to single-handedly beat a good team.
Last Wednesday, I would have liked to see Cousins focused on making 10 shots consecutively from each spot, rather than just shooting because that’s what he’s supposed to do in pregame. Then he could have worked on shot-fake attack moves (imagining Howard guarding him) or strong post-ups.
By all accounts, Cousins is a very nice person who wants to do the right thing. But right now he often acts as if he’s still in high school, unaware that somebody is paying him millions of dollars as part of a big business.
His pouting and scowling are also issues. He reacts more demonstrably, and more often, than any player I’ve seen other than Rasheed Wallace. But Wallace proved he was able to play at a high level despite his antics, even though he’d be on my personal list of the “top five underachievers of the past 15 years.”
It’s naive to expect similar results from Cousins, who needs consistent doses of teaching right now. The other night displayed an example of this:
With over 10 minutes to play in the third quarter in a tie game, Cousins was defending Howard and reached around the Orlando center as he tried to catch a pass about 16 feet away from the basket in the pinch-post area; Cousins committed his fourth foul — an obvious call to all who were watching — and reacted in his usual petulant manner. As he walked to the bench after being subbed out, Westphal twice said, “It was a cheap call,” without ever looking at Cousins, who also did not look at his coach.
What Cousins needed was his coach looking him in the eye and saying, “I don’t care if you have no fouls in a game. We never want you risking a foul on Dwight Howard 16 feet from the basket, unless you have a clear path to the line of the ball.”
It’s certainly possible that Westphal has given Cousins that speech 1,000 times this season and is just sick of saying the same thing (Cousins leads the league in fouls per game), but you never know when the light will click on. As the saying goes, “A teacher’s work is never done.”
By telling him the call was “cheap,” Westphal was just playing into Cousins’ belief that the league and media have targeted him unfairly. Getting Cousins to take total ownership of his mistakes, however, is a big part of the overall solution. And after watching him play as much as I have this season, I believe the young man wants to hear the truth, even if it’s harsh.
In the meantime, Cousins’ amateur mindset continues to wear on his teammates and coaches. Westphal and Co. are visibly frustrated with some of his antics, and Cousins is sapping energy from the team.
But if Cousins were to show more focus and dedication, that would allow his teammates to focus more on their jobs and less on managing him. And that would translate into more opportunities to win for a franchise trying to save itself from relocation.
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2. Body
Something that can’t be missed when watching Cousins play is how rarely he races, or even runs, the floor. His favorite speed is jog, with walking or just standing mixed in, too. The Magic scored a good amount of points in transition or early offense because Cousins either didn’t get back at all or ran back only after jogging and realizing he was needed. Too late. He stands around too often in the half court as well, watching instead of doing.
This happens for two reasons, the first being habit. Relatively fast and lean in high school, he got bigger and heavier in college and, as a result, running became more difficult. But jogging up the floor as John Wall blazed to the rim was no big deal. And neither was not getting back on defense. Sure, it would get Coach Calipari mad, but benching him for long stretches made little sense. So Cousins has gotten used to playing that way.
Secondly, Cousins needs to tighten his body up more. He looks much better than he did in July, so he knows how to do it. But if he can take another 10-20 pounds off, then maybe add 5-8 pounds of muscle, his conditioning will be much improved. And once he’s lighter, he can start building better habits again. A faster, lighter, more conditioned DeMarcus Cousins presents a nightmare matchup for most opposing centers in the league.
One more thing to consider: All young players have poor eating habits. Too much sugar, too few healthy foods and an overall diet that swings from bad types of food to inconsistent eating times. Getting Cousins on a better eating plan, with an understanding of how to cook and eat healthy, would pay big dividends. Not only would he get in better shape, but studies have shown that a better diet could even help with his overall mood swings.
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3. Plan
When Cousins plays, it’s exactly that — he plays. I’m not knocking him. Derrick Rose still plays far more than he thinks and reads the game, and he has developed into one of the game’s best players. But Rose also has priorities built into his play — rim attacks, drawing doubles to create shots for teammates, dragging bigs down to the baseline when they “down” him on ball screens to open up his big for an elbow jumper. There is a plan, without doubt.
Cousins needs to have a specific plan on how to best utilize his strengths against his opponents each night. Item No. 1 should be: “Be the biggest beast in the paint on every possession.”
If Cousins looked to dominate everyone he faced inside — something he’s more than capable of doing right now against at least half the league — then he wouldn’t be hanging out 16-plus feet from the basket. Right now, he takes far too many long 2s (more than three per game while making only one a game) and is tied for 41st in the league in offensive rebound rate, behind guys like Greg Monroe, Ryan Anderson and Kwame Brown. That is unacceptable. Having a plan can change that.
Post players also need a plan when they have the ball in the block area. The great ones dictate the action by setting their man up for their go-to move, then countering it when needed. For Cousins, he’s all butt, arms, quick feet and natural talent, but very little thought. We can’t fault him for that — few bigs his age have a plan, and quite frankly he’s already better than a lot of NBA centers as a back-to-the-basket player.
But because he’s agile, there are players he could face up inside and beat off his first step. He doesn’t have to back everybody down. Knowing the opposing teams and who his likely defenders will be should become a part of his game-day routine. This will help him decide early on whether he will back down or face up certain guys. And he could practice these moves in the post, while imagining each potential defender. In pregame.
Cousins can plan his individual defensive efforts, too. Remember, this is a guy who is not afraid of contact on either end. On the first defensive post-up versus Howard, Cousins got popped in the face by Howard’s hand but had no negative reaction and stayed focused. It shows Cousins can play with reason and discipline, so his silly fouls can mostly be avoided if he thinks these plays through.
Will he sometimes foul by fighting for position or contesting a paint shot? Of course, that goes with the territory. But if he were to study every foul he’s committed thus far, and sat down with a written plan on how to avoid these plays going forward, his fouls per game would likely diminish by 25 percent.
As I took in the matchup of Howard versus Cousins, one thought kept creeping into my head. Either Cousins will be a coach killer, the guy who puts up huge numbers because of his immense talent but drives his coach crazy by not competing consistently. Or the Howard-Cousins matchup is one we can look forward to on a far bigger stage one day. In the All-Star Game. Maybe even by 2013. That’s how good (or bad) Cousins can be.
So it’s up to him, his teammates and his organization to help lift him into stardom. Otherwise, he’ll likely be the guy dragging them to a darker place than they were in before they drafted him.
He is a special talent, and let’s hope for his sake as well as his franchise’s that he learns to walk the path to greatness. The NBA is a better league with him in it, but only if he learns that being a pro because he’s getting paid is not the same as acting like one every day.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM
@ datkid88 “nick has a better offensive game then curry he has way more moves then him to breakdown his defender its just that curry is one of the best shooters in the league”.
Oh man, what is there to say to something like this? Is basketball a form of entertainment? Maybe like watching dancers? Well… yes, it is! That is, it is to some degree. And in that sense, sometimes a great move but the ball doesn’t go in the hole is more entertaining than a guy making an open mid-range jumper.
But basketball is competition as well. Wins and losses are on the line. I’d rather have Curry on my team *any day* than Nick — so would anyone else. In itself that’s not a ding on Nick; Curry was a *top* draft pick; Nick was 2d half of round 1. He *shouldn’t* be as good as Steph.
Plus, of course you don’t even mention rebounds and assists in comparing the players! For most fans, the only thing that matters is scoring: how many points does a guy score is it. Efficiency doesn’t even matter. How many shots it took to get his points is irrelevant to most fans — but of course it is *extremely relevant* to who wins/loses the game!
Nick doesn’t help his team win very much. He was better for about 10 games, before teams began to key on him. He’ll never be even an above average NBA player, let alone anything special. Doesn’t matter how many moves he has, how “slick” he is, or how many points he scores. On an average NBA team, he gets 12 minutes a night from the back of the bench. Period.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Fusey — thanks for posting the article on Cousins, which is terrific.
Interesting to compare what Thorpe says about Cousins to what we all observe in JaVale McGee. The details are very different, of course, but what’s the same is the repetition of the same mistakes, no evident plan or discipline to improve game execution, and overall immaturity.
All the same, I’d *love* to have Cousins on the Wizards!! He’s extremely young; his immaturity isn’t surprising. It’d be a surprise, in fact, if he were much more mature than he is.
Can’t say that about JaVale in the same way. He turned 23 about six weeks ago. Cousins is 6 months from turning 21.
Comment from Wizards4Life
Time March 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM
why is booker not starting for us? he has to be the 2nd best player on our team! and i don’t think McGee is going to grow untill he gets a Big Man coach and we quit letting his mom come to games… the guy is soft needs to man up and play the game that and quit beliving his own hype
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 3, 2011 at 3:47 PM
I don’t think I would call Trevor more athletic than Javale. Maybe more skilled would be the better word. I would take curry over NY any day of the week. Didn’t he have like nine rebounds and four assists also?
If we could bundle Javale and Baltche together and send them a packing i would be all for it. If a player doesn’t have it together after a couple of years, that’s pretty much a sign. They aren’t even close. Six years?? heck he would have graduated from high school all over again and still have juvenile game.
Comment from dayle
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM
I believe mgmt. is not trying to win games now, they
are mainly trying to evaluate everybody we have.
That’s probably why they’re not playing more Booker,
they already know they want him. I’m sure they love him
as much as we do… who wouldn’t?
Tom, I assume you saw the end of the game when the
team did put forth alot of effort.. unfortunately that
wasn’t the case for most of the game. If they tried that
hard in every game, we probably would have won 10
more.
Comment from dayle
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Correction; I believe mgmt. is trying to win, but it doesn’t
appear to be their number 1 concern.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM
ahhhhh, come to the light grasshopper….
it’s not just the effort, it’s who is on the floor giving the effort….i.e. do ya want ab effort or booker effort…only one will get the w….but we want the pick so we always choose the other effort……..
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:52 PM
@proof
i was saying that based on combine numbers.
javale’s vertical is average. it’s just that he’s so long that he can go higher than everyone else without jumping as high. his vertical is only about 32-33 inches. i believe booker had a 36? 37 inch vertical.
trevor is faster/quicker than javale.
trevor is more athletic. since he’s shorter his athleticism isn’t as impressive since a decent number of other 6’7″ guys possess his level of athleticism… but not his athleticism + bulk and strength.
not many guys have the athleticism javale has at 7’1″. javale is the most athletic 7 footer. dwight is more athletic, but he’s 6’10″… so he doesn’t count.
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Comment from dayle
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Correction; I believe mgmt. is trying to win, but it doesn’t
appear to be their number 1 concern.
- – -
Too bad this has been happening for 3 straight years now:
3 years ago, Gilbert was still out and Caron went down often, so Antawn carried the team to 19 wins (Wizards should have won Blake Griffin, but I’ll not harp on that).
2 years ago, Gilbert was somewhat back but too much “me-ball” and lack of chemistry undermined the entire team. The “core” didn’t trust each other; and along with Gilbert/Javaris’ gun-play episode, the team broke up and won 26 games.
This year, well, it’s been another wasteful season. Rookies that should have played more didn’t (Booker/Seraphin) and “THE MAIN ROOKIE” that should have played less didn’t (Wall). Errors and bad basketball are everywhere. Gilbert didn’t feel it anymore and was shipped out. The team couldn’t win on the road but they beat Boston, Houston, Memphis, Portlant, and Utah at home. Some players are dysfunctional and sinusoidal (Blatche, McGee) and the only 3 guys that play hard every game are Wall, Young, and Booker (and maybe Cartier Martin and Seraphin). Flip’s mind is with his mother and he’s traveling back and forth between Cleveland and DC.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:53 PM
greg oden is/was more athletic than javale… i feel terrible for the guy
Comment from dayle
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:58 PM
Proof, the main problem with Blatche has been effort
(he was better last night).. so if he gives alot of
effort, energy etc., he’s not bad.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM
one thing i do like about blatche is that he knows his jump shot has been off all year. in the second half last season his jump shot was decent and he seems to have lost it this season.
in the beginning of the season he continued to do what he did last season and shot a LOT of jumpers. now he really tries to limit his jumpers and at least tries to take it to the rim… even though he gets blocked so many times.
i’d still have blatche shoot 1000 jumpers than have mcgee shoot 1.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 3, 2011 at 5:09 PM
hmmm, seems to me javale will block more balls than booker and also jumps higher. so actually producing with the athleticism. also, i doubt if booker can dunk on two rims.
btw-i wonder how Joe Montana did on the combine….get my point
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM
LOL….And If I grew to seven feet I would dang sure go to open tryouts and start for the wiz vs minnesota (and get a double double)….but it ain’t happening.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM
AB is good for his first 3/4 jumpers, then he needs to go eat some dang spinach….cuz after that his upper body strength is gone and he starts going around the building like a balloon with loose air…..waste.
get rid of ab and javale and i’m happy
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 5:39 PM
we can talk about this all day long… but javale does not JUMP that high. JUMP meaning the distance from the floor to the bottom of his feet. NOT where his hand or head is.
a 32.5 inch vertical is average.
and obviously, no trevor can’t dunk on two rims. he doesn’t have the arm length or the height javale has.
factoring in their respective heights, i guess javale is more athletic since he’s probably the most athletic 7 footer, but in terms of agility, strength, vert booker is a better athlete.
booker: vert: 36 in. bench press: 22 reps. lane agility: 11.15 sec. 3/4 court sprint: 3.1 sec
mcgee: vert:32.5 in. bench press: 7 reps. lane agility: 12.75 sec. 3/4 court sprint: 3.25 sec
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 4:53 PM
greg oden is/was more athletic than javale… i feel terrible for the guy
- – -
lol @ feeling sorry for oden. have you seen how long his pen is?
Comment from crozby
Time March 3, 2011 at 6:02 PM
What Booker has over Javale is skill and touch.
Comment from bullets_fusion
Time March 3, 2011 at 6:48 PM
booker is hungry and he wants to make a mark as a rookie.
javale is, by default, now the starting center. since he’s got the starting job, there is really no one he needs to compete against. like blatche, they’re no longer as hungry.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:29 PM
Why are we comparing Booker and McGee? They’re not similar players, and they don’t play the same position. They don’t do the same things physically, and certainly don’t do the same things *well* physically.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Michael Lee: Rashard Lewis just stated that he may have to have his right knee scoped. He’ll make a decision today. Seems likely at this point. #wizards Twitter
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 3, 2011 at 11:35 PM
lol yi got posterized by HAMADY NDIAYEEEE in practice
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 4, 2011 at 12:53 AM
@ Arthritic
Like Tom said it’s kind of hard to compare McGee to Booker because of the size difference. There are some things that McGee can do (like slam two different balls into two different hoops….at the same time!!!!) that Booker can’t do, and vice versa. On the other hand Greg Oden was never as athletic as JaVale, I was always as critical of Oden as you are of McGee(I’ve always felt he was overrated). I’ve never seen Oden make a steal/blocked shot on one end dribble the length of the court at high speed and finish with a high flying MJ type slam on the other end (the one where MJ cuffs the ball on his forearm rocks the ball to sleep like it’s a baby then slams it in) Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen Oden do that!!! I’ve always said that Oden was very similar to Dekimbe’ Mutombo (both great shot blockers). Oden was more athletic than Mutombo but not more athletic than JaVale!!!
P.S. Fusey, STOP PETER GAZING!!! LOL
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 4, 2011 at 1:08 AM
Meant to say -(the one where JaVale cuffs the ball on his forearm rocks the ball to sleep like it’s a baby then slams it in)
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 4, 2011 at 2:24 AM
i think you’re talking about the cradle dunk
oden had slightly better combine numbers than javale did. i take back what i said. i think they would’ve been equally athletic. no point talking about it now because his knees are so fxxxed up.
big men that come out in any draft with length and athleticism are ALWAYS overrated. that’s why kwame brown still has a job in the nba.
“I’ve never seen Oden make a steal/blocked shot on one end dribble the length of the court at high speed and finish with a high flying MJ type slam on the other end ”
that shows javale’s selfishness as well as his terribly low basketball iq. im sure other 7fters CAN do it. if you’re a center you’re not supposed to bring the ball up yourself. you give it to a guard and try to get the ball back later. do you get my point?
honestly javale is not good at dribbling. let’s be real. most of the time when he dribbled the ball up, things didn’t go so well.
no matter how good you are at dribbling at 7’1″, you’re hand is too high to dribble the ball effectively. it’s so easy to steal the ball since you have to dribble the ball so high… that’s why 7 fters aren’t supposed to be dribbling the ball in a fast break
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time March 4, 2011 at 3:13 AM
Fusey… thanks Bud. I loved the Cousins article. Exactly what I’ve been seeing and hearing. Seems the Kings are all but “done” with him. He may be a “true” head case, but as I’ve always guessed a little home cooking with his old buddy John Wall couldn’t be a bad thing. He has remarkable skills for a big man and would compliment out squad. At this point the Kings may even take Blatche for him?
Comment from Babakism
Time March 4, 2011 at 4:45 AM
I wish Booker could play on the Redskins too. He’d be just like Dwight Freeney lol
Comment from Babakism
Time March 4, 2011 at 4:49 AM
I think the Nuggets are my new favoritte team to watch when the Bullets aren’t playing. They are probobly the deepest team in the league
I also very much enjoyed watching the heat blow that 25 point lead tonight
Isn’t it scary that Gil has been less productive for the Magic than Deshawn Stevenson has been for the Mavs this year?
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 4, 2011 at 8:25 AM
Mr. KIA — you are critical of Oden, call him “overrated”, because he is like Mutombo?
What next? You’re going to dislike a C because he’s like Bill Russell? Mutombo was a great player. He’ll likely be HoF.
Oden may never be right physically, alas, but he was 10 times the player in college that JaVale was.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 4, 2011 at 8:35 AM
@ Babakism — I agree about the Nuggets. Trading Carmelo will look a lot better in retrospect than all the “experts” thought it was on the trade day.
I also like the Utah-NJ trade — for both teams. Deron Williams is a better player than Carmelo Anthony, and Utah got a terrific prospect in Favors and a lot more as well.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM
@tom
who do you think the wiz should draft this summer?
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Condolences go out to the Saunders family on the loss of Flip’s mother…prayers.
Flip also stated he needs to find more time for Booker….
Comment from HardCoreFan
Time March 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM
My prayers goes out to the Saunders family. May Ms. Kay Saunders rest in peace.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Kind of interesting how players can get traded to a team and that team takes off like a rocket or finds it’s missing link…may not be championship material, but the team picks up pace….then there’s the wizards…lol….time we stopped taking out everyone else’s trash and produce better goods.
#summercan’tcomequickenough
Ohhhhhhhhh, did anyone see Ted’s Take (titled Pile it on)?
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 4, 2011 at 4:33 PM
nice idea
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2011/3/4/2029453/realistic-wizard-rebuilding-ideas?login=1299270682
Comment from Babakism
Time March 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM
@Tom don’t forget about Devin Harris, he should fit well into Utah’s offensive scheme and can do alot of the same things Deron Williams can do. Plus Utah will probobly have a top 10 draft pick this year. They also had a top 10 pick last year. How many perenial playoff teams have the luxury of lottery picks in back to back years?
I’d take a healthy Greg Oden over Javale Mcgee anyday
Booker is the most versitle athlete on our team. Tell me who else on our team can bang down low with a 7 footer and then switch on to a PG and lockdown defend?? How about in the NBA?
Booker has the strength, girth and leaping ability to bang down low with a Dajuan Blair or a Blake Griffin but has the speed and agility to man up on queen james
Dunking 2 basketballs at the same time is fun to watch but has absolutely nothing to do with anything that would ever transpire in a real basketball game.
Bookers Athleticism>Mcgees Athleticism
Bookers Skill> Mcgees Skill
Bookers IQ> Mcgees IQ
on and on and on lol
Now as Tom stated,”why are we comparing completely different players?”
I don’t know.
What I do know is that even though Booker is not a center he would give us more production as our starting center than Javale Mcgee does.
Fact
Comment from Babakism
Time March 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM
@butler that was a cool little link you posted and I would be totally pysched if those are the type of players we would go after. Batum would help Seraphin cause of their french connection.
I’ve been thinking alot lately about who I would want us to get with our top pick this year. Alot of people think that it is a weak draft this year. I think that this draft maybe lacking that sure fire Shaq, Webber, Grant Hill, Tim Duncan, Blake Griffin, John Wall can’t miss type player but is filled with alot more quality players that will be available in the lottery.
Basically getting the number 5 pick could be just as good as getting the number 1 pick
Perry Jones was intriguing in the begining of the year and still is. However I think he may be the kind of player that never finds out what his nba position will be and also may have a selfish attitude.
Sullinger is a big bad boy! Could be a nice roation with him Seraphin and Booker banging people around. The problem with him is he doesn’t seem like the best defender and is deffinetly not a shot blocker. But it is hard to find a big man that finishes strong with a variety of moves around the basket
Then there is Derick Williams who is tearing it up at Arizona
Harrison Barnes from UNC
We don’t need Irving from Duke, but he is projected to be a top 3 pick and will help keep other players availible that we do want.
Enes Kantor might not be a bad option either
If Jordan Williams leaves MD early I would love to use the Hawks draftpick on him
I guess the bottom line is we need to draft players that posess toughness and a willingness to play D. Drafting players that can keep up with Wall in transition would be a good thing too.
Comment from datkid88
Time March 4, 2011 at 5:26 PM
Tom Mandel-I never said nick was a better overall player I said he has a better offensive game and still thinks he does.a good defensive team can stop a player like curry better then nick believe me but nick is improving this year and thats what u wanna see in your players instead of 10 game stretches.curry is a beast but I think nick will be better then him in the long run(my opinion)…and golden state ain’t winning anything this year either so I don’t get the wins thing u saying about curry.
Comment from Neal
Time March 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM
Is it too much to sacrifice to have a SF w/o a jump shot? In other words, can Booker T play the 3?
I guess Martin will get some time at the 3 with Thornton gone and Lewis out. I hope so. We need to give him some extended time to see if he can do more than shoot 3′s.
Comment from millie mill
Time March 4, 2011 at 9:19 PM
My vote goes to Derick Williams if he is around for our first pick, if not Perry Jones.
Jeremy Tyler with Atlanta’s pick he may be around with our second round pick.
Jared Sullinger and Trevor Booker is the same type player.
PS, Booker need to start over Blatche next season.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time March 4, 2011 at 9:25 PM
@ datkid88 — “a good defensive team can stop a player like curry better then nick believe me”. If Curry is putting up better numbers against the league, and he sure is!, then how can you say that a good defensive team can stop him easier than it can stop Nick. It makes no sense.
and “I think nick will be better then him in the long run (my opinion)” — it’s your right to think that of course. But it’s a ridiculous idea all the same. In a few months, Nick will turn 26. He isn’t going to be better than he already is — *ever.*
Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time March 4, 2011 at 9:36 PM
@ Tom
I compared Oden’s style of play to Mutombo…. not his career!!! Maybe I need to start adding cliffsnotes to my post!!!
Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time March 4, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Dwight Howard shot free throws better than John Wall last month. 70%>66%
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 4, 2011 at 10:29 PM
some of these comparisons make no sense at all….sounds more like a player should want to be like the other player moreso than compare them to the player….but pretty sad that NY should want to be like Curry, since he’s older
Curry avg is 18 pts/3 rebounds/5 ASSISTS per game in his second season…why/who would take NY over Curry….plus Curry has a professional father in his ear (perk). okay, I guess the season is over and we are all bored….worst part of the sports season (after NBA Finals and before football…long two months)
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 4, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Maybe we shouldn’t play Booker and Seraphin more. Other teams might want them in a trade when it’s time to get rid of the players that don’t fit in our system, or if we trade for other players.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 4, 2011 at 11:15 PM
i say we compare hamady ndiaye with mustafa shakur
Comment from Babakism
Time March 5, 2011 at 12:19 AM
@Millie Booker and sullinger may be the same on offense in terms of their physicality but Booker is more Athletic and is by far a greater defender and posseses more versitility. However, they both our the perfect ingridient in a bruising front line
I want NO part of Hamady on the court, I think he was a wasted pick and will never mature physicaly enough to bang down low. Now if the kid is somehow able to pack on 15 pounds of muscle in the off-season, come talk to me again lol
@kid how does Nick have a better offensive game than Curry? Just cause a guy has more moves and a nicer crossover and is able to hit shots at a higher degree of difficulty doesn’t make him better. The fact that Curry can produce better all around numbers than NY shows that he has a better knowledge of the game. Curry is also just in his second year.
NY may look more “spectacular” but it is a bunch of wasted energy. Curry is smart enough to find easier ways to score his points so that he is a more efficient player and excels over NY in other statistical categories because of it.
With that being said, NY is still having an amazing year and I hope he is back next year as long as it is cost effective (Deshawn Stevenson$$$)
@Tom M NY will not grow more offensively but it is still possible for him to improve defensively. He has never played with Defensive minded players. It is impossible to assess his “team defense” level when he has never played with players that exibit “team defense” on a night in night out basis. I think he deffinetly has a desire to win but is not a leader. Put NY on a good team with a strong leader and he instantly becomes a better player
Look at what happened to JR smith once Chauncey Billups came to Denver
Comment from blueandgold123
Time March 5, 2011 at 1:21 AM
Here is an article about both Nick and Curry from the Washington Post.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2011/03/nick-young-breaks-out-of-slump.html
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 1:35 AM
Baltche tweets that the difference between the second half of last year and this year is that he’s the third option this year….isn’t his shot ouput about the same? somebody get that kid a pr person or shutdown his twitter account…….please go back to school.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 1:41 AM
:
“Truth_About_It: Of 33 NBA players who have played > 1600 minutes & averaged > 14 FGA/G this year, Blatche ranks 32nd; Tyreke Evans ranks 33rd.”
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 5, 2011 at 2:46 AM
remember ndiaye was the 56th pick.
i dont think anyone expected anything out of him. i certainly didn’t. not many 56th picks even get to stay in the nba for a season.
Comment from Arthritic
Time March 5, 2011 at 2:49 AM
ill take curry over nick any day.
the only thing nick has over curry is height and hops. may be 1 on 1 defense since curry isn’t a great defender. he was getting benched a lot earlier in the season because they said he was a liability on defense.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 8:00 AM
some players aren’t drafted and become good, if not great NBA players. it’s time to use our scouting team to the fullest and find those players that have that intangible characteristic, that will propel them into good if not great NBA players.
#thatswhytheygetthebigbucks
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 8:21 AM
BTW-I Left out that luck probably has a majority of the percentage….but to draft a player that has done “nothing” and think that they will become some kind of beast because they remind you of your child-hood hero is getting to be a stretch….as history has shown. However it has also been seen that if you don’t know or pay attention to your history, it may repeat itself.
Comment from gray16
Time March 5, 2011 at 9:53 AM
as far as the draft talk,
i’m heavily favoring drafting kanter. its been so long since we have had a legitimate big. haywood at the end was a pretty decent big, but he still couldn’t score in the post. i believe kanter can do everything haywood did, and score in the post. we need a big man for once.
if we draft a smaller player, d williams wouldn’t be a bad pick. his athleticism and hard work would compliment wall very well imo, and they would imo become one of the best pg/pf combos in the league if they worked together. but williams worries me with his rebounding, which can be very inconsistent. and since rebounding is one of our worst areas, i’m hesitant on him.
if we draft a sf, i don’t want perry jones. i was favoring him for a second, but then i realized… this dude hasn’t shown the ability to be a great scorer, and that’s what we would need from him. he should be getting 20+ points to show us we really could count on him to do what we would need from him. since he hasn’t, i’d rather go for someone like terrence jones. his only knock is personality problems, but they aren’t to a level that i can worry myself more than i be excited about his talent. so as far as sfs go, t jones would be the guy i would go for.
what i would really like to see (but won’t happen probably) is to somehow trade into another top 10 pick and be able to get barnes and kanter… like i said, won’t happen.
second to that, and more probable but still a long shot, i’d like to see us draft kanter first, a sf like travis leslie or scottie hopson with the atlanta pick, kenneth faried with the second round pick, and have blatche get in shape over the summer and at least get close to returning to the talent he displayed at the end of last season. coming into the season with high confidence and doing well. that would have our lineup:
wall
young (if he stays)
x player (guess rashard)
blatche (playing with the talent we saw last season)
kanter
shakur
leslie/hopson
booker
faried
mcgee
i would love to see this as well, keeping my fingers and toes crossed for blatche.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Along with scoring, we need a defensive presence, or we may end up the phoenix suns 3.0. we really aren’t privy to seeing all the talent in college, unless we really are into college ball. There are players all over that could come in here and be an asset, i am counting on our scouting team to bring in that “unsung” player.
Do we realize that every player on the court doesn’t need to have an offensive game? Defense creates offense also.
Comment from proofofconcept
Time March 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Remembering Ben Wallace:
Wallace first played college basketball on the junior college level at Cuyahoga Community College in Cleveland for two years. There, staples of Wallace’s defensive prowess were shown as he averaged 17.0 rebounds and 6.9 blocks per game. He then transferred to Virginia Union, a Division II school. Wallace averaged 13.4 points per game and 10.0 rebounds per game as a member of the Virginia Union Panthers, whom he led to the Division II Final Four and a 28–3 record.[2] As a senior, Wallace was named to the First-Team All CIAA and was selected as a First Team All-American (Div. II) by the NABC. Wallace was a letterman in football, baseball, basketball and track. He won All-State honors in all but track.
As an UNDRAFTED player, he was signed as a rookie free agent by the Washington Bullets on October 2, 1996 after playing in Italy. In 1999, Wallace was traded to the Orlando Magic along with Tim Legler, Terry Davis, and Jeff McInnis for Ike Austin.
THAT IS GREAT SCOUTING, Who was responsible for finding him, we need that scout back!!!
Comment from Babakism
Time March 8, 2011 at 3:10 AM
and who was responsible for making that trade? we need to get him back so we can do some other things
lol
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“Waiving” Al Thornton means we are still paying his salary. I.e. there was no buyout if that’s what happened. In which case, perhaps we want to sign another player? Otherwise, why create the roster room?