Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:21 AM

Let’s show some energy against the Knicks!
Let’s get a win!

GO WIZARDS!!!!!!!!

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Me trying to stay up and watch the Wiz when their on the west coast just doesn’t mix. I totally missed the Phoenix game(It was my son’s birthday + watching football games) & when we played The Lakers & Kings, I fell asleep mid way threw both. (guess I really didn’t miss much) Hopefully we can get a win tonight it’s going to be tough though, the Knicks are playing some good ball.
Lets win in spite of the Coach…. GOOOOOO WIZ!!!

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM

@ Mr. Know it All — you did miss a great third quarter performance vs. the Lakers. We had a chance to win that game down to the last couple of minutes.

Turnovers and lack of rebounding killed us, but we looked very good all the same. Especially Wall, Booker and Young.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM

The Knicks are a complete surprise. Partly people had underestimated Raymond Felton, and partly their rookie Landry Fields, picked 36th in the draft, looks like a perennial all-star — so far he is playing like one of the best players in the league at the 2-3.

But we’re eating home cooking — lets get them!!! Need an outstanding game from John Wall for starters.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Knicks in the phone booth tonight.

Big THUMBS Up for ‘Dray!

Go Wiz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Is Dray playing tonight?

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM

Look what a 30 point a game low post scorer can do for your team.

Remembering free agency and how almost no one wanted Amare.

Everyone was saying how bad it was for the Knicks to sign Stoudemire.

He single handedly changed that franchise.
The Knicks are looking great.

What do you think would happen to our franchise if we stuck Carmelo at the 3?

Same thing but only better

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Don’t give too much credit to Raymond Felton and Landry Fields.

You stick a Superstar on any team and everyone gets alot better.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Put Lebron in Cleveland and they go to the NBA Finals.
Take out Lebron and they are looking to gut the team right now because they are not very good.

Take a whoaful and I mean Whoaful Knicks teams and you add Amare Stoudemire and they are staring at the 4th seed in the playoffs.
Take him out and you will see just how good Raymond Felton and Lanery Fields really are.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM

I still dont buy the Amare Super Star stuff. Alot of it is just that system.

Anyways, if for once we can get the real starting lineup of Wall-Gil-Al-Dray-McGee then we will look like a totally different team. Look at our record and look at theres. However, look at our roster and look at theres. Id still take ours but theyve been completely healthy since day 1 of training camp.

If we have that group tonight then we win an look alot better

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Arenas Nears Troubling Anniversary!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Au2fH_AOpogRbK951mHzm168vLYF?slug=mc-arenaswizards120910

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM

dlts20,

If you think Amare makes no difference in New York and it is just the system:

How good did the Knicks do last year in THEIR SYSTEM without Amare?

THEY SUCKED!

The best systems do not pan out without Superstars on their team.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Phil Jacksons Triangle ONLY works with Superstars on the team.
It will not work with only good players. It needs great players.

I am not an expert on the Triangle but I have heard/read enough about it that the number #1 criteria for success of the triangle is to have Superstar players to run it.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM

John Wall is the key.
He plays we have a real good chance.
He doesn’t play and it gets alot harder.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM

@ draftazoid — as usual you stick on the surface, and use terms like “superstar” without their having any particular meaning.

Yes, Amare is playing pretty well, not quite as well as last season and *nowhere near* the level he played at before his major injury. (If you think there’s no difference, take a look at his ’07-08 numbers vs. this year or last: *much* higher FG%, got to the line more often, more rebounds, fewer turnovers, etc. — one of the top players in the league, which he is no more.)

Also, this statement, “You stick a Superstar on any team and everyone gets alot better”, is completely false. There is no evidence whatsoever that a superstar makes his teammates play better.

But you are right that the players are much more important than the “system.” Every system depends on the quality of players to win games. We would be the same team with the same results if Phil Jackson were our coach.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM

knicks are one of the hottest teams in the league right now… and amare is putting up some insane numbers

a win would be impressive

we need josh howard back asap

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 12:49 PM

draftazoid,

first amare is not a low post scorer, he’s a high post scorer. he’s just like dray, except more athletic, and a better shooter.

tom,

i would say amare is definitely playing better than he did last season. ignoring his higher points, higher assists, and higher rebounds (since i feel they are all due to being in a new situation with the same talents) look at his defensive numbers. about a block more and half a steal more per game, that’s much better than his last season. and he’s not having much different numbers than his 04-05 season before his injury either, so i wouldn’t say he was much better back then. (and definitely not one of the leagues best, not even better than kg or duncan at the time)

Comment from dayle
Time December 10, 2010 at 12:54 PM

DCB, was that Seraphin comment directed at me?

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 12:55 PM

and i do like landry fields as well, nice role player for the knicks. i don’t know about that perenial all star player thing though tom lol, 10 ppg and an all star? since when has that happened? he better learn how to put up more ppg and become the knicks best player before we even start talking about that.

this will be a tough game, hopefully dray is back, as well as wall. dray is going to have his hands full tonight, wall is going to have his hands full tonight, and the wizards better not play a lick of zone with gallinari out there ready to drop 8+ 3s on any team that gives him a chance.

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:03 PM

so what do we feel about nick young getting resigned, or an extension?

preseason i would’ve been the first to say no to this question, and nightmares of contract year blow ups are stuck in my head but he’s definitely convincing me.

if he can keep getting better at the boards and playing defense, i say keep him. i can live with the little assists, he’s not a playmaker he’s a play finisher. but if he could start getting around 5 apg and about a steal per game, he would really be a great player. of course he’s going to have his off nights offensively, but his positive scoring nights have been great this season.

so what do you guys think?

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM

meant to say 5 rpg

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM

dayle,

no it wasn’t directed at you, i was giving an example of how we are not playing the proper people. if he’s the best pick setter, why isn’t he playing, when the other bigs don’t set picks properly…..it was just added to my thoughts at the time.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Tom,

From your statement:
“Also, this statement, “You stick a Superstar on any team and everyone gets alot better”, is completely false. There is no evidence whatsoever that a superstar makes his teammates play better.”

1. New York Knicks this year. Amare is the Star.
2. Cleveland this year-they suck. Cleveland last year- they make it to the NBA finals with Lebron. Almost the exact same players.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Gray16,

Your comment:
“first amare is not a low post scorer, he’s a high post scorer. he’s just like dray, except more athletic, and a better shooter.”

You forgot Star, winner, makes others around him better and commanded Max Contract unlike Andray’s $7million a year.

No comparisson between Amare Stoudemire and Andray Blatche. Zero. I would not even put them in the same sentence.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 1:19 PM

And Amare is doing all this with ONE EYEBALL. Lol!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:34 PM

roflmao…now that was funny

Okay, Amare isn’t a star, no one just can’t check him…lol…

ummmm, the knicks kicked us already this year, they are pretty stable….but I still love my wiz….

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM

http://www.csnwashington.com/12/09/10/Hanrahan-This-Clearly-Isnt-Working/landing.html?blockID=369816&feedID=7433

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM

lol to compare amare and dray…

amare is…

faster, quicker, much more explosive, jumps higher, better finisher at the rim, higher energy player, MUCH better mindset… overall MUCH better player.

jumpshot wise id say theyre about equal or dray’s might be better. dray kind of shoots like KG because he brings the ball up over his head but his shots arc higher than that of amare’s. amare has somewhat of a flat shot.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Been about week since I have posted (Blazers game) since I have posted.
I saw on ESPN and Yahoo sports about Gilbert welcoming the possibility of being traded. If we could make a deal I would trade him when I look at our progress this season and our won/loss record.
If there is a way to get it done I would do it.
I have been on draft machine (ESPN) and have done both a 2 way and 3 way involving the Wiz, Nuggets and Magic. Gil,Melo and VC all make basically the same amount a year ($17 mil.) I have sent Gil to Orlando with VC going to Denver and Melo coming here to take some pressure off of JWall. we would not have a problem selling out the phone booth then and the only thing we would need is a big man in the middle or at PF. In the deal to send VC to Denver, AB would go along with AB. Denver would not have VC on their books next season which means they would have cap space to work with. Getting AB may work out for both parties. if somehow we could get NeNe and Melo would be nice but the figures don’t work for that. I would place Nick Young in the starting backcourt with JWall as the future backcourt. Gil may be the missing piece to make sure Orlando can edge out Miami and Boston for the East title.
Melo and JWall would be an outstanding combination ot have here. I am not sure if I want that combo under EG or FS.
. There are some other factors to weigh in on such a deal but if this could be done I would jump on in a heartbeat. We don’t have to give up our number one pick next year to make this happen either.
I have watched the first 20 or more games and I don’t like the prospects of the way this season could turn out. Except I would love to see Gil leaving and our getting rid of the contract for a more sure baller in MELO.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:53 PM

It would be nice to see the Wiz pull one out tonight against a hot Knicks team. But I will see later on down at the phone booth.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 3:59 PM

i meant to say AB would go with VC to Denver.
I am being real out the state of the franchise withe Wiz.
Sometimes you have shake things up when you been shgaking things up and still are going nowhere. The key is would Melo be willing to come and pair with JWall.
Let’s hope Gil can stay healthy and we can make a move.Would be nice to have both Kevin Love and Melo on our frontline.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Who agrees or disagrees with me. I welcome your opinions. I am being honest in how I feel as a diehard Wiz fan. I just believe we would be a better team with Melo in town. When Melo does not play in Denver they are not that good as a team. We have who we have and we are not good. Why would you not trade Gil’s salary for a Melo if it could be made. Melo would make Chinatown electric and he would be a great mentor to JWall.
It ‘s cold outside so let it rip (your opinion).

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM

draftazoid,

yes amare is a star, and he has his max contract (which doesn’t mean much, so does rashard lewis), but what makes you think he makes players better? who has he made better throughout his career?…

arthritic,

almost everything you listed there, except mindset has to do with athleticism, which i listed when i said why he was better. and i will say he has a better mindset, and i think dray has some maturing to do.

i’m definitely not saying dray is as good as amare, don’t get me wrong, i was saying they both attack offenses the same way, meaning face up post ups from the high post. amare isn’t a low post scorer any more than dray is. he uses his quickness to drive past players, and due to his athleticism, he can do it better than dray. dray has to rely on nifty moves to beat his defender, and he doesn’t have as reliable of a jumpshot.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM

I thought Denver wanted draft picks moreson than people.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM

The difference between Amare and Andray when they face their opponent 1 on 1.

- Andray “tries” to dribble and then goes all the way around for a reverse layup (help defender also has time to come in pushing Andray away from the basket a little bit).

- Amare beats his man so quick with his initial dribble and then attacks the hoop for a thunderous Dunk (no chance for help defender to make it).

That’s the difference when they are about 15 feet from the basket 1 on 1.

That is also worth $10 million dollars in pay difference per year.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM

This is going to be a tough game. Go Wizards!

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM

atleast we dont have to hear

daNILO GALLLLLiiNARRRRRIIIIIIIII

every single time he scores. its very annoying.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:06 PM

You guys are way too stuck on Amare. The system helps him alot. Infact, a month ago NY fans were saying he was the most overrated guy in the league. He was stinking up the joint. He has no moves but a jab step.

Stop comparing Dray to guys when its a totally different system and Dray missed the whole summer with a broken foot. Put a full offseason Dray in Phx with Nash and watch what he does. The fact is that Dray is playing alot better the last 5 games or so incase you havent noticed and that is because he’s finally shaking off the rust and getting his conditioning back.

I still say he’s way more skilled then Amare. Has way more post moves, better handles, longer range, a better J, and so on. He just has to get back right. No matter what, he wont be this year what he couldve been with a full Offseason but he’s starting to come along and will only get better.

Thats why I still say that if we can get our normal lineup out there then we are easily better then NY and will look like a totally different team. As usual for the Wiz though, IDK when that will happened, if ever

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Yes, they just said that Wall & Dray will start. Could we have our real starting lineup for the 1st time all year, atleast without Howard? Now you can judge us

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM

6:35 PM EST…Dave and Glenn checking in…starters are in..Wizards will have John Wall and Gilbert Arenas at guard…Al Thornton and Andray Blatche at forwards and JaVale McGee at center….Knicks will go with Raymond Felton and Landry Fields at guard…Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari at forward and Amar’e Stoudamire at center

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Yesssss!

John Wall is back.
Run baby Run!

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Dlts,

You said this about Andray:
“I still say he’s way more skilled then Amare. Has way more post moves, better handles, longer range, a better J, and so on”

We call that DILLUSIONAL! Time to stop playing the song “FEELINGS, WOA WOA WOA FEELING.” (youtube the song while you play Andray highlights- make sure you include when he dribbles of his knee and shoots 18 footers to kill our rally’s.)

Reality check.

Comment from ChenierFan
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Flip just got done telling the players that he didn’t think they could compete with the Knick but that he is looking for effort… That should get’em fired up!

Are Andray and John playing tonight or did the medical staff place the leeches in the wrong place again?

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Tonight should be a game that we match up well with the Knicks. Let’s hope we get off to a good start and feed off the energy of being. I am still waiting for us to play our best game to date.

Comment from ChenierFan
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

It’s time for my first poem of the year about the Wizards.

I wrote it with the song “A bicycle built for Two” in my head.

Here goes:

(Sung to the tune of “A bicycle built for Two”)

Wizards, Wizards
When is rebuilding done?

Blizzards, Blizzards
That’s how the losses come

The disarray is showing
As the losing keeps on growing

But, as we see
They play no “D”

So the games are no longer fun.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

DCButler357 the closer Denver gets to the Feb 25th td the better anyone’s chances are if Melo has not signed the ext.
If Melo was here and Sam C was the coach this place would be sold out.
I honestly feel something like that could happen for the Wiz. Feelin prophetic.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

LOL…@ ZOID

Chenier fan, i gotta play the music when i say it….

right now, amare vs dray is like comparing a daddy to a son….lets hope the son can grow up and outdo the dad….better yet, how about the son just doing his job where he’s at on a consistent basis. When Dray makes an all-star game or plays consistently, then he’s worth comparing.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

broadcast underway…..with comments of Flip Saunders….and again John Wall and Flip Saunders

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Hello everybody

Let’s get a win tonight so everybody can feel good, looking forward to the call tonight Dave and Glenn

Great to see all the former Bullets in the bldg

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

let the games begin!

let’s see some defense tonight. wall at the point is where is starts. it finishes with mcgee and blatche. put in the effort, and get a win for the home crowd!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

It will be so great when the COACH defines the roles for this team and stop with the ISO (in search of) philosophy……

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Well this is our best line up while howard is still out.

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM

jeff,

that’s true, but with a team of brand new people and a lot of youngins it takes a while to do that for any coach.

i think the players are finding their roles offensively a lot of times, but flip is trying to find a lineup that will play defense as well as score.

if you look at the players who seem to put in the most effort on defense (imo booker, seraphin, hinrich, javale, thornton, nick, and wall) there aren’t that many main go to guys there, other than nick and wall (and wall’s a distributer not a scorer). and while javale, nick, seraphin and booker give effort, they are still learning the game.

let’s hope flip can find a lineup that gives him both offense and defense.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM

@WeWantAWinner-not sure about that, I am inclined if he just utilize the talents of the players we have, we would win more and not be 0-10 or 11 on the road and Gil wondering if he should pass or shot, not to mention not getting blown out by 30 to the Kings…but new game tonight

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM

laundry fields is good

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:14 PM

You know why not start Wall and Arenas and bring Wall of the bench with Kirk?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

@DJ-he is playing well as a rookie for sure (Fields) but it is a long season let’s see how he holds up

How do you start any game with McGee not as a starter?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Arenas just be aggressive…

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Unforced TO’s for the Wizards

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Thorton should not be in w\ this line up needs to come off the bench

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM

suddenly 8-0 run by knocks 1:25

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Dave and Glenn, tell me why you think the Wizards do not play more man to man, especially against a team like the Knicks?

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

uh oh thorn ton 2 fouls

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

with nick we have a reliable go to guy on the court

javale is frustrating amare offensively and now he’s losing his cool period

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Glenn thank you, and hey even late I am like leftovers always good! lol…Thank you for the shout Dave and Glenn

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Arenas needs to lead this team, if he can get it going tonight we will win this game, has to be aggressive the ENTIRE game

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Can we please STOP with the ZONE defense! please……..

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

amare 8 points

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Great play by McGee

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:29 PM

nice take javale, hope you can walk it off, that was a hard hit

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM

amare really went out mcgee… mcgee held his ground

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Wall not having a good floor game thus far, it will change I hope

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Dave and Glenn, big hello from Germany! Unfortunately the radio stream isn’t working. But I’m watching the game and I’m with you guys here on the blog!!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Young out of sync thus far

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Nice defense!! Now our offense must follow!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

wow, ab ran from under the basket and shot a jumper???

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

There! Young hits one! Finally! That felt goood!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Young and Arenas have chemistry and deserve to start games.

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM

blatche and arenas doing well to start on the offensive end

young is playing hard out there

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM

great hustle by NY

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Oh well, at least Blatche is trying to take it inside!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM

knocks 0 for 3 beyond the arc

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM

the zone gives up way to many open jump shots

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:37 PM

So soft….start calling him charmin

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Nice! Kirk, way to go! That should give us a little momentum!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM

9 pts 3 reb’s 3 assists for Arenas after 1, again he is the BEST player on the roster you have to run the offense through him as the primary scoring option and everyone else play off of him

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM

quarter started and ended on wizards 6-0 runs

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Our D was pretty good at the end of the first quarter! Let’s keep up the energy!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Yessss! Nick’s getting hot!…….I hope!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Chandler always gives the Wizards problems

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM

great pass by wall

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM

wall gaining confidence!

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Nice finish to the 1st qtr, I see flip use my favorite line-up Wall, Arenas, Young, Blatche, & Magee. If Flip keeps using that line-up I might just have to take back all the bad things I’ve said about him!!!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:46 PM

that why I think Wall should come off the bench with the second unit for a bit, be that spark and then finish out the game at money time

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Wizards are playing with more confidence now

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:49 PM

other than yi, this is a pretty good defensive unit.

wall, hinrich, and young is our best defensive 3 guard lineup, and mcgee is putting plenty of effort out there.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:50 PM

19-7 wizards run

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:50 PM

can we sub Kevin Grevey in the game?

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:51 PM

8 knocks turnivesr

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:53 PM

Nick Young out, Thorntonback in….I don’t know if I like it!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

@Jaba-I don’t like it!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Wohooooooooo!!!! JWall!!!!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

amare now 6 of 7

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

No Booker/Gee/Martin?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

If they are going to foul, don’t give a three point play.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Arenas had a great 1st qtr and has not been back in the game yet?

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:56 PM

that lineup did well even against the starters defensively

i’m thinking blatche and arenas will be back in after this timeout, tell them to keep the defense rolling. we know their offense is there, but we need defense, as the last 3 games have shown.

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Andray taking it inside again! I think he also wanted the foul!

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Why when players are hot Flip likes to cool them down. Gil is on tonight. Everybody sees it. He has been on the bench to long. He’s back in.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM

the offense had 4 players above thr FT line on the last position, and another unforced TO

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:00 PM

@JWALL-100% correct Arenas is HOT, you cannot sit him that long, killed his momentum……….

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:01 PM

3 fouls by thronton

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Nick Young! Good to have him back in!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

turnovers just allowed the kncisk back in

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

So why no Booker yet? Has he not earned some time? No Gee? And did Martin smuggle plans for the new uniforms next year to ESPN, lol…Feels like I have not seen him in years

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

My boys are in!!! (Wall, Arenas, Young, Blatche, & Magee) Keep it up Flip!!!

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM

heck, hinrich was hot and wall doing well, and the defense was rolling

i don’t blame flip for keeping arenas on the bench for that bit, he was trying to keep the team momentum going

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM

This reminds me of what Clipps fans told me after we traded for Al last year. They say he’s great if he’s a top 2 or 3 option but if he gets lower then that or comes off the bench then he sucks all the time

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM

@ jeffmalone1990
I like Booker but if it ain’t broke……..

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM

God, Arenas got beat on that one!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM

McGee playing good D in the paint tonight

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM

OK my boys are out………… now it’s broken!!!!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Let’s go Wizards! Don’t let the momentum shift!

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:09 PM

Wall has the last second shot too much since he’s not a shooter. He’s got to give it up to Gil or NY in those situations

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:09 PM

bad second quarter for arenas, not just on offense, but defensively got beat a couple of times

nice second quarter for wall, hope he can keep it going

mcgee, just keep that energy flowing man

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM

I agree dlts20!

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM

@ dlts20
Only the Clippers would make Thornton a #2 or 3 option!!! LOL

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM

nice shooting by blatche, loved to see him taking it to the rim, but my man has got to get some rebounds, only 1 in that first half.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM

spike lee now on radio

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Glenn how do you have Spike Lee on at the half and talk no Wizards basketball? lol…All Knicks interview? Great job buddy!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:19 PM

should booker be in, instead of Yi, Yi seems a little hesitant, or just can’t jump

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:20 PM

@dcbutler-as a fan this is what drives me nuts? Booker played well on the road and usually a coach will reward you with minutes especially at home? smh…I don’t get it……

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Gray16 I disagree with u. Gil’s own coach cooled him off. This baffles me. Anyone can JWall is out of sync somewhat. Go with the hot hand. Flip really irritates me with zone defense cool your own player off style. Give the team to Sam C.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Good to see Michael Adams, I think he would be a great coach in the NBA……..

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Flip has never been able to mix it up, it’s either one way or the other…just my observations over the past year and half. If JWall wasn’t the #1 pick he wouldnt be playing that much

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM

@JWall-I am with you !!!!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:25 PM

Arenas is feeling it! Got to feed him!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:25 PM

Chandler again is a Wizard killer, always have been

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:25 PM

7-2 knocks run

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:25 PM

here come the knicks

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Why is Dray laying the ball up at the rim? He has been at the front of the rim all night, gotta send it in strong big fella!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

chandler third foul…. he is 7 for 7 form fired though

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Terrible FT shooting!

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM

jwall,

imo, if arenas needs the ball all the time, and needs to be in the game all the time to do well, he’s not really a great scorer.

let’s stop blaming flip for everything for a second and realize that we were doing well without arenas, and flip didn’t want to mess that up. flip has to think about the team, not gil.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM

lol…why was javale running down the court….lol…

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM

I just do not understand the Coach, and as a fan I have tried….Another year and still no identity on offense or defense and more frantic substitution patterns…

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:29 PM

@gray16-what are your thoughts about Arenas? Secondly when would you start to look at and or blame the coach?

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

you know what I hate the most? Flip’s playbook. Our Offense looks so bland & redundant. Its like we do the same things over & over again and it just looks boring & predictable. Its like old school Offense

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM

its almost like every team has a higher gear except for us. JWall misses a layup and he’s hurt…pride?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

I wonder if Wall can hold up for a full 82 games this year?
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Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

arenas now 5 assists

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Ohoh! Wall’s hurt!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Oh, it’s his thumb…

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Have we fed the post one time to McGee this game?

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

McGee goes back up with the Offensive board too much. He has to kick it back out sometimes. Im always so nervous when he does that because he looks so out of control. He only gets away with it at times beause of his length

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

jeff,

my thoughts on arenas aren’t as high as everyone else’s, lets just say that. he does positive things, he does negative things.

offensively, he’s not doing well this season, and defensively he’s never done well.

basically, you live by arenas, and you die by arenas if he’s your main guy. he’s a good player at times, but imo he’s not as great as we make him out to be.

and i will blame the coach at certain times, and not on others, i haven’t seen anything tonight to put blame on him for, other than not playing booker over thornton, or mabye yi. but yi is doing well tonight, so i can understand that.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

that’s why you fed the post, it frees Dray or McGee for a board…..

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Good hustle on the offensive boards! Let’s go Wizards!!!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM

LOL….Regardless of how “awkward” Javale looks, he’s working

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:36 PM

and then you sub McGee out

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:37 PM

jeff,

wall has already missed games, the 82 game thing is out.

and yes we fed javale the ball at least two times, once he shot one of the crazy shots like he always does, the other he shot another crazy shot but made it.

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Ah! That felt good! Nice dunk by Yi

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM

that says volumes about our team….if arenas isn’t all the way back and he’s our best player, is the cup half empty or half full?

Yi is doing good, but booker will do better

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM

@gray-as a fan, I love your optimism on the coach as far as Arenas (IMO) he is the BEST player on the roster, but we are playing him like he is some glorified 6th man? As a fan I think we would win more games if we just let Arenas be Arenas on the court that is……

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM

oh these turnovers

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Butterfingers! That was a nice pace by Dray!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

@gray-that is why I said and continue to say feed the post and good things will take place, inside out or weak side rebounding. The offense at best is boring and stagnant.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Yi is back to killing us again

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Booker in with 4 minutes to go in the 3rd…WOW

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

There you go, Jeff! Booker’s in!

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

well, i’ve stopped saying arenas is our best player. i’m sorry, but if i keep repeating that every game while every game he continues to shoot horribly, turn the ball over, and get beat on the defense, i’m gonna make myself crazy.

booker in!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM

prime example, yi just lost the ball out of bounds, booker would have flushed it. Flip doesn’t play the rookies enough, why are we giving one and done players so much time for? they should be backing up the rookies or splitting time.

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:41 PM

Geez, that was a wild sequence right there!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:42 PM

@dcbutler-that is why as a fan it is confusing to me?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM

so who is our best player. i mean really, even the owner knows it, for now….so who’s your best player and what is your criteria.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Dave and Glenn thanks for the shout out guys! And I will try and call the post game to talk to my good friend aka Twitter buddy Glenn lol

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:45 PM

6 turnovers this quarter for wizards

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:46 PM

right now my best players are between mcgee and young.

those are the two players who i feel have been playing the best for us this season.

let me put it this way, arenas may be our best player when consider what he can do, but he’s not our best player when you consider what he has done.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:46 PM

The best player without question is Arenas and Blatche after that with Nick/Wall then McGee….as I see it…Arenas can give you 30 if you tell him just to score but he looks lost and uncomfortable trying to do to much, no feel for the game at all. He and Young in the game is quite a back-court with Wall and Kirk off the bench with Blatche, McGee and Booker to start I would love it

Can we sub Kevin Porter in the game since we missed Grevey? lol

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Stoudemire is killing is from everywhere!

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:48 PM

I guess we are going to just give Amare that practice jumper all night with no one in 5ft of him

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Oh nice move by Booker!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Who is are best rebounder on the team guys?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:50 PM

The tempo is set by your guards with direction from the coach, with that being said I have no comment other than we play in one speed the entire game

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM

i would say mcgee is our best rebounder

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM

lol…we have a rebounder on the team

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM

We have to figure out a way to slow down Amare in the 4th!

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

We should just sit Wall down and bring him back in 7-10 days with Howard at the same time

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

yes please

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

he’s our best rebounder due to athleticism, but we need a forceful rebounder….like an anchor

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:55 PM

i would say NY is almost our best player. He’s consistent and is making a difference the whole time that he is in the game.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM

Funny, I asked because if it is McGee against a shorter team like the Knicks he cannot get into the game?

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM

imo, a rebound is a rebound

dang what a pic by booker, gallo’s head is probably ringing from that

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:58 PM

javale is on pace to get 30 minutes tonight, he’s getting in the game…

and we don’t know the status of his injury probs either

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:59 PM

see that’s why ab can’t be my best player, 6’11 and shoots the layup from a 6’6 position.

btw-yes a rebound is a rebound, but while he’s our best rebounder,other teams load up on their offensive boards, like a squirrel gathering nuts….lol

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 9:59 PM

I don’t know why Wall is still taking that shot. He hasn’t been hitting it!

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Wall has to fix that J or stop shooting. He needs to watch some film of Rondo on how to play when that J is not on because he hurts us when he misses. When his J is on then he’s unstoppable but without it he can look average

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:01 PM

ah man, they are pulling away?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

lol…gil penetrates and everyone runs to the perimeter? where are the passing lanes

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Gilbert looks hesitant

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

if your name isn’t young, please don’t shoot lol

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Let’s GO WIZARDS!!!!!!!!!

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

They’re really giving Wall that shot now!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

wizards only 2 of their ;last 10

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

wow, we suck at pick and roll offense

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

i wish wall would go the rim more often

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

Sit John Wall not having a good game, go with Arenas and Young in the backcourt with whomever else you like

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:05 PM

Gil has stretches of games. For 3 games he looks like he moves very well and for 3 games he looks like he’s so pedestrian and he always sucks when he’s not moving well. What happened to the guy that just like 5 games ago was attacking the rim and getting to the line like 12 times? Now he never goes to the rim even when its open. He just forces a pass that gets stolen. He has to keep going to the rim or not even go forward at all

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Again it is a high pick and roll set (if that) or a 1/4 set…it does not work at all

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:07 PM

lol jeff, gil isn’t doing well either, might as well go with hinrich and young if you want to take the struggling players out

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:09 PM

Why is everyone running to the perimeter when they penetrate? Not good.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM

16-4 run knocks run

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM

@Gray16-sorry I cannot go with Arenas not going well tonight, he had it going and sat for an extended period for whatever reason? If he win it will be because he or Young gets on a roll…Not Kirk

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Alright! Let’s make a run!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Wall 5 pts and 5 assists not a good night at all

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM

Gilbert! Yess! Now defense!!!!!

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM

2 Points in six minutes to start the 4th qtr. Not good letting this get totally away from us in spite of the amare show. Can we find a way to win.

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM

We’re losing this game with turnovers and bad foul shooting!

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM

again WHY DO WE PLAY A ZONE DEFENSE? wide open looks for every team we face

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM

One of JWall worse games as a pro. Call it growing pains. Take nothing away from the knicks. Great chemistry.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM

GOOD D GIL!!!! THAT WAS HOME COOK’N

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Yeah, all of the fancy dribbling got him no-where tonight.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Get McGee off Amare. I cant believe Flip stayed with that matchup so much. He’s killing Javalle

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM

Howard will be back in a week…

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:20 PM

wall’s jumper was off all night, but other than that he has done well

only 1 turnover, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists while letting gil handle the ball for much of the game isn’t bad

plus his defense on felton has been good, who’s shooting 5-16

not a good game, but not a horrible game, other than the shooting, not many negatives imo

but we need him to shott better for sure

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Wall is forcing it on offense…STOP IT JOHN

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM

My boys are in if we win this one i’ll really look like I know it all!!!

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM

that what we needed

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:23 PM

gil’s offense to close the game has definitely been on

nice run, and good plays by everyone

javale doing some good things as well

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Again it is all about Arenas

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:23 PM

wow, only three down, just that quick

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:24 PM

why a zone????? man

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:25 PM

are you serious? arenas shot an airball and crown chanted air ball? how many knicks fans are there tonight?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:27 PM

well, we had our opportunities.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:27 PM

LOL
ok
done watching for this season
this is a waste of time

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM

frustrating….. opportunities in this one

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM

This is wild! I thought this was a home game! They’re only showing Knicks fans! Stop it already!

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM

spike must’ve brought some friends tonight, too many knicks fans there

nick trying his best reggie miller impression lol

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:29 PM

javale played horribly most of the game. i dunno if people are watching the same game or are just impressed by that one steal he got on the pass to amare

but he made a TON of mistakes. hes basketball iq is in the negatives.

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Have to say, there are whole bunch of reasons why we’ve lost this one….but missing all those foul shots didn’t help us either

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM

javale did have a rough night, but i’ll take the lack of iq over a lack of effort, and that’s one thing you don’t seem to have to worry about with javale.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:33 PM

1 800 636 1067 post game

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Well I will say it this year just like last year, the Wizards play too much Zone defense and are always out of position, zone is great to switch at times in a game HOWEVER not the entire game. We need to play more man, and switch on the screens…Way to many open shots………

Comment from Jaba
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Alright! 3:33 AM……Good night to all from Germany!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM

GN Jaba

funniest moment was when amare shot a jumper and javale started running down court and amare got the offensive rebound…..actually it’s sad, but cmon son, what are you thinking?

Never ever ever compare Amare to Javale again……no further explanation needed

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM

as you were, NEVER EVER EVER Compare Amare to AB again.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Wow, we need a new coach to get the players to play. Wall needs to step up on Offense and Gil has to play better defense, fields blew by him 3 times. The east is so weak but we refuse to get wins.

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:43 PM

McGee plays hard and he is getting better, but he is frequently out of position. McGee is an issue that needs to be solved. I’ve grown on Blatche but he plays so soft inside it is frustrating. The players continue to hang their heads well after thier mistakes. Flip is wishy washy on whom to play and trust. That is the Wizards issues that they need to solve or it will be a long season.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM

I think we just need a new vision for this team.
Meaning, the mgmt is stale and needs to go, nad just start fresh. I’m not saying it’s mgmt or the coach, i’m just saying, start over from scratch with a new philososphy from the top down.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:51 PM

javales main mistakes are… and he makes these pretty consistently.

1. he thinks he can steal every ball coming towards the man hes guarding and gets out of position to steal the ball… often times leaving his man wide open.

2. he grabs an offensive rebound (great job). then, even though the shot clock has been reset, he goes back up and forces an ugly shot with his limited offensive capabilities (not good). settle your a** down and pass it out. you are not dwight howard.

3. i know he can reach higher than pretty much everyone in the entire league… but he needs to learn how to get better position for rebounds. with his athleticism and length he should be able to get 15 rebounds every night.

he does try hard every night despite his asthma.

another thing. i dunno what happened to the gilbert we all saw against the magic at home.
he was attacking the basket like a mad man and going to the foul line 10+ times. ever since then he just completely stopped. even if he does penetrate he usually gets stuck and tries to pass it out and ends up turning the ball over.

john wall needs to rest until hes healthy. did not play well today.

yi needs to learn how to finish around the basket. ive already seen him air ball a couple of hook shots this season. i know its not his game to have his back to the basket down low but hes huge and pretty athletic. might as well use your body instead of shooting jumpers all the time.

al thornton needs to learn how to shoot. or just never shoot outside of 15 feet. his shot is pretty ugly.

trevor booker seemed pretty lost out there today.

you guys can agree/disagree with the things i said all you want but i know most of the things i just whined about are true

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:55 PM

“funniest moment was when amare shot a jumper and javale started running down court and amare got the offensive rebound…..actually it’s sad, but cmon son, what are you thinking?”

LOL did you see the reaction from the wizards coaching staff when javale did that??

flip looked like he was going to kill someone
someone (not sure if it was cassell or zierden) was stomping the floor in disgust

i have no idea what javale was thinking then.

“omg maybe if i get a head start i can receive a full court pass and finish in spectacular fashion so i can make the sports center top plays tomorrow!!!”

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:55 PM

What player would you all rather guard Amare?

Andray- He would have scored 60.
Javale held Amare to his average the last 6 games.
We were not stopping Stoudemire no matter who was guarding him. He is just cat quick.

I am sure Glad our Wizards didn’t try to sign Amare.
I don’t think I could have standed him destroying all those front courts this year.
I don’t think I would like us have an 8 game winning streak and flying to the playoffs.
No sireee.

And yes DLTS,
Andray is way better than Amare.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:56 PM

I can’t believe I thought Blatche was in the same class as Amare at the beginning of the year.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 10, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Half the fans were knicks fans. They turned it into a home game.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Our schedule is not doing us any favors to, the Lakers and Heat are coming here next week.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:05 PM

There were so many Knick fans because we are rebuilding.

Who besides die hards are goign to buy season tickets for a rebuilding team.

That is a major problem when we decided not to sign an Amare Stoudemire or trade for a Carmelo Anthony.

Superstars sell tickets.
Teams that don’t have any either have half empty arenas and/or have home games where you feel like your the visitor like tonight.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:09 PM

@draftazoid

i dont think we can trade for melo even if we wanted to.

unless we give up john theyre not going to want anyone else from our team.

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:15 PM

when did we decide to not sign amare, i was not under the impression that he ever wanted to come here…

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:29 PM

99% of the blog, except me of course, wanted no part of Amare Stoudemire.
“It’s the System”
“He can’t play without Steve Nash”
“He has ONE EYE”

Ted made it clear. He does not want another Superstar here unless we draft him.
Guess what TED? We ain’t getting another future STAR beides John Wall.
There are precious few suprstars that just fall in your lap on draft day.

What happes if the Knicks get Carmelo? Now they have Carmelo AND Amare. Two Superstars.

Now the haves and the have nots in the east will be divided even more.

Top Tier Super Teams:
Miami
Boston
Orlando (with Boozer playing now)
Chicago
New York (with Carmelo)

Bottom Tier:
Everyone Else

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:36 PM

We have lots of ammunition to get Carmelo.

We have good players with great contracts (Andray)
We have very, very sought after players (Kirk)
We have a very talented young Center (Javale)
We have another BIG with international appeal (Yi)
We have First Round Picks (Booker and Seraphin)
We have Gilbert- pretty much untradeable-but possible

The key is Javale. If the Wizards are willing to trade Javale then a Carmelo to the Wizards is a possibility.

No way the Wizards trade John Wall. Zero chance.

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:44 PM

draftazoid,

you have to make a deal in which the money is right, the contracts have to add up.

the only person we have that we can trade for melo is gil, and like you said, he was untradable this off season.

let’s have patience guys, we are rebuilding. we keep pointing to teams like the thunder, knicks etc. well how long did those teams suck before they got their break?

plus, we aren’t new york, we don’t have the pull that they have to draw players. new york can get players just because of their location.

ted is doing a great job imo in his first season. he’s really changing the culture of the team. he knows that free agency is also a part of rebuilding, but he’s not going to rush things, we need to know where we stand.

so again, let’s be patient.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Wizards send:
Javale McGee
Kirk Hinrich
Nick Young

Denver send:
Carmel Anthony

Find me a better trade than that.
Javale is a budding young star who plays Center.
Kirk is a very much sought after combo guard.
Nick is on fire. Everyteam can use a Nick Young.

The key is Javale.
Would the Wizards be willing to trade Javale?

Comment from gray16
Time December 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM

so trade our best center and one of our best guards for someone who won’t stay here past the season…

i’ll pass

why do you think melo wants to stay here? he didn’t want to sign an extension with new jersey who is the same shape we are…

like i’ve said before, if melo wants to come here, let him sign here over the off season.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Carmelo will sign the extension with some team before the deadline, I believe is Feb. 25.
He could lose up to $25million dollars if he does not sign the extension.
He is not taking that chance.

I went on the TRADE MACHINE and this trade worked:

Denver sends:
Carmelo Anthony

Washington sends:
Javale McGee
Kirk Hinrich
Nick Young
Yi Jianlian

We get a Superstar to go with John Wall.
That is what I want so that is what I will get! Lol.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:17 AM

That was a tough loss tonight. Really tough. Make your FTs.

Stoudemire looked unstoppable some of the time. Then again, he turned it over 11 times — wow!

John wasn’t effective tonight. Kirk is really the only reason we were close.

@draftazoid — I can’t imagine a dumber trade than the one you suggest. And Carmelo isn’t a superstar anyway. He’s an above average player that’s way over-rated. It’s a good thing you aren’t a GM.

To be honest, I’m not sure you know who is and isn’t a good NBA player — weren’t you the one claiming out loud that Randy Foye was terrific; he was really going to improve us? That was you, right?

What do you think? Should we trade for Randy Foye?

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Yes We should trade for Randy Foye. Ernie thought so also.

And Tom wasn’t you who said a 9 point a game Mike Mller is a great player. I think that was you.
He sucked, when he got on the court and was not hurt).

Carmelo is a Superstar. Hands down. No doubt about it.

Ted better force that trade before John Wall gets hurt because of the lack of quality around him.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM

Tom, where would New York be without Amare Stoudemire right now?
I definitely know that you did not want us to try to sign him.

He sure would’ve looked good in our ugly uniforms tonight.

Yea. I don’t think I want a front court player who scores 30 points a game. That would be horrible.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:31 AM

We should be like Portland and Atlanta. Build a team through the draft and still be a middle of the road playoff team.

No Thanks.
I would rather roll the dice and have as many superstars around me (John Wall and Carmelo Anthony and whoever else we can get).

Life is too short.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:40 AM

draftazoid

theres no way denver will trade with us. either you know nothing about the nba or denver must be clueless.

they dont want arenas. they dont want hinrich. you dont need “international appeal” in denver. there arent that many chinese people in the middle of the united states. they want to rebuild with young TALENT. they WILL NOT trade carmelo for garbage. they are not trying to get rid of carmelo. they want a trade that makes sense.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:08 AM

The Wizards had a very good chance to win the game tonight until:

1. Flip decided to use his 3-guard offense
2. Flip decided to use his match-up zone defense.

The minute that he did these two things (Yes, they were simultaneous because he can’t play man-to-man with three guards), the momentum of the game and the score shifted in the Knicks favor (Wiz went from 10 up to 10 down…some swing). Stoudemire had a picnic just popping into the lane for easy 8-10 footers against that zone, while Gallanari and Fields took easy shots from the wing and the corners.

I realize that the Wizards will not trade the #1 pick, but John Wall is NOT a good point guard at this time. He is a shoot-first tweener who is neither a good point guard, nor a good 2-guard. IMO, time will demonstrate that he was not worth the #1 pick (except, perhaps, for the gate – this year only). John is a bad one-on-one defender who gets beat consistently. He demonstrated his selfishness many times tonight when he went flying (out-of-control) down the court; ignored the obvious pass-off; and had his shot blocked, or simply missed the lay-up. Right now, the Wizards play much better basketball with John on the bench.

My main rub with John is that he has yet to demonstrate that he understands that the timing of a pass that he might make to Slick, or Gil, or ‘Dray is as important as the actual pass itself. John is holding the ball one-dribble too long and then either getting the ball to someone when they are no longer open, or deciding that they are no longer open so he might as well take the shot himself.

Saunders has shown us that he is a bad coach and will not be a success with the Wizards. The Wizards will not be a good team with Saunders as the head coach. Cut him loose and give the job to Sam. Sam will know how to make John Wall into a real point guard and, in the process, perhaps make the Wizards the interesting team to watch that Ted promised us. If EG wants to stick with Saunders, then both will be sent packing before they realize what is happening. This is a business fellows. As other bloggers have pointed out, it looked as though half the crowd tonight was rooting for the Knicks. I’ve lived through those years when most of the fans rooted for the opposition, and I’m not looking forward to doing it again. It’s simply bad business.

Washington, DC fans root for winners. The folks buying high-priced season tickets can afford to do so because they are winners themselves. This town is full of winners. The entire city and Federal administration and the Congress are full of people who are there because they are winners. They will only support winners. Saunders is a loser…

Comment from RONNIECOPE106
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:15 AM

Two questions:

1. Just how many games do they think getting Josh Howard back will they add to the win column?

2. How many more games will the Wizards ave to lose before they realize that Flip Saunders is not the right coach for THIS team?

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:56 AM

i just dont get… how the CAPITAL CITY of the #1 country in the world has such crappy sports teams…

just doesnt make any sense to me

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time December 11, 2010 at 4:54 AM

Thanks Guys… I’ve had a real good time with you guys over the last 4,5,or 6 years…. whaterever it’s been

Tom keep those Dave Berry numbers alive and kicking lol.

Neal, Fusey, and Chenier Fan…. Thanks Buds. You have made me laugh a lot. I should probably include Doc Linkin in that too

I’m probably going to wait a while to post here again. I’ll wait until after next off season. Or at the earliest at the trade deadline.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:28 AM

already?!?!?!?

“MikePradaSBN: RT @jimmywa11: Did not play good or like myself tonight gotta get my confidence back find my game and be the leader for my team that we need”
–http://twitter.com/MikePradaSBN/status/13453627834245121

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 9:36 AM

zoid,

even though you’re off a lot. I really wouldn’t mind that trade. We will have no problem replacing any of those players, if we had the proper people selecting our players.

whether it’s this year or next, ted has no choice but to CONTINUE shaking this team up. Coach, GM, players, whatever….theirs gonna be change coming. Carmelo is still young enough, and with the proper coach, no one will be feeling like their confidence is gone after 20 games……non-motivating….ted needs to act on that NOW

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 9:56 AM

now this is the “coach” appointed CAPTAIN speaking…..if the captain is almost “out of it” how does the rest of the team feel?

Ted, time to step in and make a move, i’m sure you’ve been doing your research.

Comment from ChenierFan
Time December 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM

That was a great post by GABBO at 12/11 1:08 AM. Very instructive. Thanks.

I would also like to add that John habitually makes the mistake of leaving his feet when he passes. That leads to turnovers. His tendancy to miss easy shots is also deflating.

I would disagree with GABBO in that, like Flip, I never thought the Wiz would win last night. The Wiz are a team with (what’s the opposite of swagger?) zero confidence. That causes hesitation and gives energy to the other team. The coach is accountable for that.

Worst of all is Gil, who seems like he’s lost the joy of playing basketball. Instead of entering camp with a postive attitude he adopted a surly and petulant attitude. He has no passion out there any more.

It had to be tough for Ted to hear the fans cheering for the Knicks.

Give a lot of credit to Stoudemire. This is a guy who overcame a serious knee injury (he must have had better doctors than Gil) and a serious eye injury. He looks like the MVP so far to me.

One final thought. I would only play Andray in 9 minute stretches. Flip played him too long in one stretch and he was totally gassed the last 4 minutes. I would also consider having Javale share his inhaler with Andray.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:27 AM

i love john wall to death but i have to be impartial when im trying to criticize him

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/john-wall

^—– this link VERY ACCURATELY describes his strengths and weaknesses. i agree with everything it says.

john wall is not a great finisher once the defense gets set in the half court.
he is a blur in transition but he still needs to control his speed better and finish accurately. he sometimes loses control because hes going so fast. he needs to learn from derrick rose on how to finish better using speed. rose rarely, if ever, misses around the basket.
i also think john needs to learn how to change his tempo better. with his speed and athleticism he should blow by anyone defender in this league if he can lull them to sleep first before blowing by them.
obviously he also needs to get a more consistent jump shot. his form is pretty decent.
last but not least i think his ball handling could be a little better. im not saying its bad but itll definitely help him blow by people much more easily.

but im sure hell be able to get better and fix his weaknesses within the next 3-4 years.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Thanks for the shout-out ChenierFan, I’m glad you enjoyed the post.

With regard to Saunders’s resting of ‘Dray: if you’re going to play a guy big minutes, you have to pick the spots to give him some rest. Most knowledgeable coaches understand that taking a player out of the game with about 2 minutes to go in the third quarter and returning him to the game with about 10 minutes to go in the 4th quarter will actually provide the optimal rest because it includes the entire time-out between the 3rd and 4th quarters. The Wizards brain-trust played ‘Dray the entire 3rd quarter and into the 4th quarter and took him out with 10 minutes to go in the 4th and returned him to the game with about 6:30 to go. BRILLIANT!

Those were some serious minutes for a guy just coming back after having to sit out two games with a hip injury.

Barring foul-trouble, ‘Dray should be taken out of the game with about 2 minutes to go in the 1st and 3rd quarters and returned with about 10 minutes to go in the 2nd and 4th quarters. That provides him the best opportunity to rest while getting him about 30-35 minutes of playing time per game.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Worst of all is Gil, who seems like he’s lost the joy of playing basketball. Instead of entering camp with a postive attitude he adopted a surly and petulant attitude. He has no passion out there any more.

i agree. but i think its more so his confidence that hes lost rather than passion. he doesnt have that killer instinct he used to have. i dont really remember him making a mistake and getting down on himself before… besides that time he missed 2 free throws in the 2006 playoffs. ive seen him get down on himself everytime he makes a mistake in the 4th quarter.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Saunders did John Wall no favors by making him a captain of the Wizards. John has potential, but he is a boy among men and certainly not a leader of those men. I’m certain that Saunders keeps pounding “you have to be the leader” into John’s head. It’s simply not fair to John or the Wizards team. For John to keep providing quotes that he has to take over; that he has to provide leadership; etc. is evidence that Saunders has succeeded in putting tremendous pressure on this 20 year-old kid.

Just another example of Saunders’s poor coaching. He has no offense; he has no defense; he has no people skills; he has horrible judgement.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM

If this team wasn’t led by talkers, rather than doers, it would be better off. Gil came to camp feeling like he was written off already. REGARDLESS of what Ted was saying. For some reason he doesn’t feel welcome here. Flip keeps saying dray needs to go on the block, but he plays him heavy minutes while he’s not going on the block. Javale is showing hustle and grit, yet he makes one or two mistakes and he’s taken out. The rooks set the best picks and they get little time. Yi is just as lost as anyone else and he gets off the bench first. No wonder the team is confused, disheartened and lacks motivation. It doesn’t matter who gets the most rebounds, points, shoutouts,etc right now……the team is losing.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM

What type of message is sent to the team when a player starts a game and the very next game he doesn’t even dress? Seraphin started against the Clippers and Flip made him inactive vs the Knicks?!?!? This is supposed to be a developing team. Developing teams need stability, continuity, direction, leadership, motivation, not whimsical attempts at reward/punishment or innovation for innovation’s sake. The Wizards are getting Jr. high school coaching from Saunders. I realize that Ted said that what we are seeing from the Wizards players is about what he expected at this stage of their development. Even if I were to agree with that assessment, I am very much convinced that what we see now is just what we will continue to see with Saunders at the helm. The progress that Ted is expecting will not happen until he replaces the head coach.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM

what coach even mentions the fact that their team is better than another team or not? that’s just stating the obvious. How about studying the team and attacking their weakness or devising a plan to beat them besides saying go out and “hustle”…..wth kind of motivation is that….LOL…it’s becoming comedy jam, at the player’s expense…

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:33 PM

GrifonRacing — no, no, say it isn’t so!! Stay on the blog.

@ Gotabig — did you watch the Lakers game? John Wall looked every bit an NBA point guard, and an excellent one. He is certainly inconsistent, but we’re used to that with talented players (wink wink). I don’t agree that he looks like not being worth the #1.

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:40 PM

On the Serious Note of Trading Carmelo:

Denver has been said to want a young BIG:

New Jersey comes to mind with Derek Favors but New Jersey has absolutely ZERO to add to the trade.

The Wizards have Javale McGee who is also young exciting BIG with tons of upside just like Favors.

What other teams out there has a young BIG as a trade option?

The wizards have lots of individual assets to add to Javale as part of a package.

1. Kirk Hinrich- Highly, highly sought after. Like I said before, he will be probably the #1 sought after guard on December 15 or the February trade deadline for playoff teams.
2. Nick Young- Coming on like gangbusters- what team cannot use a pure shooter who is starting to show that he can create his own shot (scoring 30 points against Artest/ Kobe)
3. Yi Jianlian- Everyone remembers how great he did at the World Championships. The NBA is not only about winning championships but making lots of money for the
Franchise owners. How many millions of dollrs did Yao Ming make for Houston? Yao is about done and if Yi can take the torch it can be worth millions up millions.
Did you know that 400 million chinese people watched Yao vs Yi?

These 3 players plus Javale works in a trade for Carmelo money wise.

In just about every trade that has involved a Superstar being traded for a bunch of very good players that team that aquired the Superstar has done better in the long run.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Our next three game are really on the road because the Lakers and Heat are going to make seem like this is their house. I hate it when wishy washy fans just cheer for whoever has the momentum, we need die hard fans at every wizards game.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM

shouldn’t ndiaye be inthe d-league getting experience? do we know how he is doing?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:54 PM

antoine walker is playing in the dleague? wow!!

is he broke or what? looks pretty good

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I’m waiting for Shawn Kemp to go to the D-League.
We know he needs the money. Lol!

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:18 PM

i hope this doesn’t get too ugly….why don’t they just go coach or something

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM

i guess there are coaching prospects in the dleague also

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM

You know one thing you look for in any business is ROI (Return on Investment) we will get that in ticket and merchandise sales with Wall, however it takes winning to sustain that not losing. I am not one to continue to bash the Coach, however when Tap and now Flip, it is obvious this team is not responding to him and do not believe in the system. Gil is not playing well because he thinks he will be dealt and this is Walls team. You know how you fix that, you go to Gil and say listen you are a scorer and a pillar of the franchise I will not trade you and we need you to be aggressive in your play at all ends of the court. We will play through you and we will feed off of you, the game will come easier for Wall and Blatche as well. And by the way, naming Wall a captain was a MISTAKE it is something earned, sorry not seeing it, this move would have been better suited for next year maybe not this year, and Kirk as well really? Blake Griffin is not a captain for the Clippers? The team plays a 3 guard line-up (look at the rebound margin when we do), zone defense (how many open shots do we give up a game), stagnant on offense(ball stays at the top and all float to the 3 pt line,and the bigs are at the FT line, no pick n roll or motion) and defense( man to man, trap, 2-3, we stay in a zone and get burned) and always plays at one speed (tempo is always dictated to us and we are more reactive than proactive), and constantly shaking up the rotations (Booker plays well on the road, comes in at 3rd qtr mark, Gee and Martin? Why is Thorton starting) not to mention the active and inactive? For the second year I cannot say what the team identity is on offense or defense (no comment needed) and the Coach still throws players at times under the bus. Their is a conclusion to be drawn here, I will let you decide…….

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Some excepts from the link below, click for the full article re: Arenas

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-arenaswizards120910

“I’m a different player,” he said. “Then I was an assassin. Now I’m just a guy trying to play the game the right way.”

Wizards officials have applauded Arenas’ work ethic and competitiveness as he adjusts to playing off the ball. “The intensity is there from his part, the motivation is there and it’s going to be a process as we go along,” Washington general manager Ernie Grunfeld said.

Coming off the bench also was a transition. Arenas hadn’t been used primarily as a reserve since he was a rookie with the Golden State Warriors in the 2001-02 season. He knew this much: He couldn’t complain. Not after watching Allen Iverson(notes) resist a bench role with the Detroit Pistons and Memphis Grizzlies – a stance that led to Iverson now playing in Turkey because no NBA team wanted to sign him.

“It’s still basketball,” Arenas said. “The rules don’t change for the bench players. I learned a lot from the whole Iverson experience. Not get a job because I can’t adapt to my environment? I’m sure I can adapt to any environment.

“I probably would have had an ego in 2006, 2007, but I’ve been hurt for three or four years now. When I came back [last season] it was Caron’s team, Antawn’s team, and I was adjusting to them. It’s not like I’ve been playing a whole year of basketball where I’m the man. I haven’t been the man since 2006, 2007.”

Arenas also seems to have accepted that the Wizards are now building around Wall. While Wall has been slowed by injuries – he’s missed seven of the Wizards’ 21 games – he has been productive when on the court, averaging 17.4 points, 9.1 assists and 2.4 steals. Wall, in turn, says Arenas has mentored him like a “brother” as the two guards try to improve their chemistry.

“When a young guy is coming in, the older guy never wants to move over,” Arenas said. “But I know my time here is over [as the face of the franchise]. I messed up my legacy here.”

How much longer Arenas plays for the Wizards is the question no one seems to be able to answer. New Wizards owner Ted Leonsis has repeatedly said he’s not interested in trading Arenas, and Arenas’ contract, which has three years and more than $60 million left after this season, will be hard to move anyway. Still, when Arenas is asked if he can envision himself playing out his contract in Washington, he sounds like he’d prefer a change of scenery.

“In this league there is no such thing as long-term anymore,” Arenas said. “Players are getting shipped out and shipped out. I’m looking at the Kings like, when I first came [into the league], none of those players were here. The Lakers team, the only person that was there was Kobe [Bryant], and Derek Fisher(notes) came back.

“There is a young team here [in Washington] and they’re trying to build some chemistry. I guess until they find the right deal that’s going to get me out of here, you know … I’m here.”

Comment from JWALL
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM

This is how u pull off a Melo to DC trade:
Fire Flip and hand the team over to Sam Cassell. These young guy’s wil play hard for Sam.
Sam is the calling card for Melo. They both will bring more fans from Bmore and we will be sold out game in and game out.
It has to be a 3 way trade with the Magic involved. They want the NBA title bad. Gil would flourish in Orlando with a team already established. All he has to do is score.
The Magic send VC and his exp. Contract to Denver and we send our number number one pick and AB for Melo.
Melo makes teams better. He went to Syracuse as a freshman and won the NCCA title.
We keep Nick and Javale around for the rebuild. Nick and JWall will be our starting backcourt. Place KS at the PF to get rebounds and intimidate.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Ted L. Will learn that sometimes u may have to change your philosophy when you learn as u lead. If we are to pack the phone make rebuilding still essential we need someone to lead them. I believe a Melo led Wiz with JWall this team will be dangerous with some tweaks here. Sam maybe able to call on Akeem O. To coach the bigs.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:48 PM

draftazoid and JWALL seem to be of the same mind. They agree on everything.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM

@jeffmalone1990 – nice assessment of the team at this stage under Saunders.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Tom u must do not like Melo to ake the comments that he is not a superstar. N fact u got to be out of mind. On the Olympic gold medal team Melo was one of the top producers on that team.
Man that brother would take so much pressure off JWall. Melo would say give the ball in cruch time. I am a finsher so let me show u how it is done.
Tom, Melo is a class guy who makes players better. Melo gets taller when he goes to the rim whereas AB gets smaller.
dC basketball would never be the same.
in my last post I meant to put TB with KS as the new enforcer. Both need playing time.
Flip cost us the game last night. If a coach can’t win home games that he should and is mserable on the road then he has to go.
So I am lobbying hard for the next Doc Rivers (Sam Cassell) to get his shot. That is who will get Melo to come and stay alongwith Ted L.
Melo is a class act.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Thank you getabig , I have faith in Ted and as a fan that is about it…..But like most I am in a wait and see mode with him as well, he had some promising declarations for the team so short and long term goals. However in the short term he could tweak some things to help obtain both……..

Comment from JWALL
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:05 PM

I don’t agree with draftazoids players he would trade for. Remember the key is find Gil a new home so he can floursh in a reserve role. The Magic are the perfect. Ask DWade, Paul Pierce and Kobe if the Magic got Gil that would make them lethal. But it also gives our franchise a fresh start.
we r 22 games in and we need to be smart and take that risk. NY did and look at Amare.
Gil would be for Orlando what Jamal Crawford is to ATL, g
Gundy would know how to use a Gilbert Arenas.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM

I don’t know anyone who would want to play for a coach who tells his team that he doesn’t think that they can win a particular game. The Wizards need someone who motivates without the constant public criticism. Saunders is so out-of-touch with the modern NBA player that he shouldn’t even be allowed to be within twenty feet of any of them, never mind coaching them.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:26 PM

The problem is what have u done for me lately Flip has not done anything. We need someone to teach our to be smart as players but how to go hard.
Sam is more experienced than me. But I believe you coaches on the blog could do a better job than Flip.
that being said why not lobby for what u believe n. don’t want to keep experiencing what we have already have the last few years.
I am willing to upgrade my seat but only they improve.
I am sick in tired of other players coming here and getting more cheers than our own players.
This kind of play stinks thats why I am getting it out.
I live my life with a winning attitude. Flip has our guy’s acting like a HS team. The NBA is for the serious players.
We should not have lost that game last night. Gil was set for 40 point night at the end of the 1st qtr. Then Flips make him cold by setting him on the bench to long. What kind of coaching is that.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:35 PM

@JWALL-I noted as much last night after one Arenas had 9 pts 3 rebs and 3 assists…I think you ride him at home where he has a history of playing well, he feeds off the fans…no words for it, snatched his momentum…….

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Too many folks, including John Wall himself, drank the kool-aid that was being dispensed by Saunders with regard to John Wall’s basketball ability. John is about two years away from being a good NBA point guard, if he ever gets there. He should put that BS he is getting from Saunders about being the leader of the team behind him and focus on learning how to be a good NBA point guard. He has to lead by example, not with words. The Wizards are totally flat when he is at the point. The team only gets it going when Gil has the ball in his hands. Gil knows how to play in the NBA; John has to learn, and I don’t believe that Saunders is capable of teaching him.

Every team has injuries, so stating that we are just waiting until we get all of our players back to see how we do is wishful thinking.

There are 60 games left in the 2010-2011 season. Every practice and every game that is coached by Saunders is a wasted opportunity for the young Wizards to learn and grow.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Is there anyway we can trade for the medical staff of the Phoenix Suns? lol

Comment from draftazoid
Time December 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM

To Gilbert Arenas:

This is John Walls Team Baby!

Take a back seat., If you want to be a complimentary player then great. Welcome to your new role on the Wizards.

If you want to wine and put hints that you want to be traded so your few fans can feel sorry for you then so be it. There still are a few people who feel sorry for you.
Not me. You caused my favorite Wizard to be traded last year and you ruined my season last year.

You are not a superstar anymore.
The NBA doesn’t think so.
The Referee’s definitely do not think so.

How many more end of quarters are you going to ball hog, drive and miss. Then you don’t get the call and you look baffled. PS. The ref’s ain’t giving you squat anymore.

Again, welcome to the Game Changer’s team.
Check out the big picture outside the Verizon Center.

Comment from dayle
Time December 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Drafta,
Your intense dislike of Gilbert has affected your judge-
ment. He has taken too much of a back seat sometimes,
he needs to be more aggressive.
So far, other than the fake injury, I think he’s handling
his situation with grace.
Gabbo, don’t you think the Wizards have been unluckier
than most re: injuries? I am very concerned about Flip
constantly telling the team he doesn’t think they can
beat whomever. thanks for the link on him, btw.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 6:59 PM

dayle, I think that every team has injuries throughout the year. In the Eastern Conference alone:
Celtics – Jermaine O’Neal 3 weeks, Perkins out indefinitely, West out indefinitely;
Knicks – Azubuike out indefinitely, Curry out indefinitely; Raptors – Reggie Evans out indefinitely;
Bucks – Delfino out indefinitely, Hobson out for season, Redd out indefinitely;
Pistons – Jerebko 5-6 months, Terrico White out indefinitely;
Magic – Daniel Orton out indefinitely;
Hawks – Joe Johnson 4-6 weeks, Pape Sy out indefinitely; Heat – Haslem out indefinitely, Mike Miller 2-3 months; Bobcats – Gerald Henderson out indefinitely

The Wizards have yet to see Josh Howard play a game, but I believe that that could occur next week. We have also had minor injuries to John Wall and Andray Blatche.
I believe that we might have been luckier than most thus far.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:17 PM

JWALL and jeffmalone — there are 48 minutes in a basketball game. Last night, Gilbert Arenas played 39 minutes. As to being able to pick the time when sitting him down is somehow better than another time? — get real will you….

If we replace Flip Saunders, we will be the same team we are now. Then you will all be whining that whoever it is doesn’t know how to coach an NBA team or NBA players or doesn’t use the right substitution patterns or whatever.

That’s been the pattern here — Eddie Jordan was no good; he had to go. Eddie Tapscott was no good; he had to go. Flip Saunders is no good; he has to go.

Here’s a hint — teams in the NBA are as good as their players. Coaches make very little difference, outside of a very few of them.

We have 4 kinds of players right now: 1) guys on the downslope of their careers who can’t do what they used to do, 2) veterans who are either questionable or have never been reliable producers, 3) marginal D-League type players, and 4) raw rookies. That’s what we’ve got.

The only guys on our squad who are *for sure* part of the next 3 years are Wall, Seraphin, Booker, McGee and Dray (because he got extended).

Assuming someone will give us cap relief in return, Gilbert Arenas is gone at the first opportunity — even *he* thinks that is the right move. He’d make a lot better GM than you guys I guess!

At the end of the year, you can mark down Armstrong, Yi, Martin, Thornton, Howard, Gee (probably), Young (maybe) and N’Diaye (probably) as gone. Except for Nick (and maybe Josh Howard) you can mark them as irrelevant *this year* for that matter.

This is a *brand new team* — being built from scratch and just getting started. For fans, it’s a matter of switching attitudes.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:20 PM

I forgot to mention Hinrich — we stole him (gave nothing for him, got a mid round 1 pick with him, got the Bulls to pay a bunch of his salary this year!) with the intention of getting veteran teaching value out of him then trading him for cap room.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Tom Mandel- before I go into my rebuttal, I must ask a question. Did you watch the game last night?

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM

The idea of trading for Melo is flat out ridiculous.

First off, he wants to go to NY — why would he leave Denver if he can’t go where he wants?

Secondly, he *certainly* doesn’t want to come to a team that has gutted its roster and is starting over — why?

Finally, he would do such a team (i.e. the Wizards) no particular good, *especially* if you give away our best current player (JaVale) and a top lottery draft pick.

Ridiculous.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Jeffmalone — I did watch the game last night, yes. Did you?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 7:52 PM

From Tom Mandel:

JWALL and jeffmalone — there are 48 minutes in a basketball game. Last night, Gilbert Arenas played 39 minutes. As to being able to pick the time when sitting him down is somehow better than another time? — get real will you….

@Tom Mandel-I watched every game this year to include last night’s effort. Now to your argument that Arenas played 39 minutes in the game and he missed 9 minutes as a minimal occurrence, let me suggest the following:

Arenas 1st qtr stats 9 pts 3 rebs 3 assists (basketball is a game rooted in momentum and confidence) Arenas had it going early, and Coach decided to sit him for an extended period which nullified his effectiveness (more on this later)
So you asked me to get real, okay I will do just that! You and a few others want to dismiss Arenas as an afterthought or old news and just hand the keys to the car to Wall. Basketball, you must earn the right to have the keys to the car, even if the mass marketing of the team would suggest other than that, players decide it between the lines. Arenas is one of the most talented players in the NBA, and his problems are more mental than physical at this point, so when he has it going at home you RIDE with him and adjust your rotations and philosophies.

If we replace Flip Saunders, we will be the same team we are now. Then you will all be whining that whoever it is doesn’t know how to coach an NBA team or NBA players or doesn’t use the right substitution patterns or whatever.

That’s been the pattern here — Eddie Jordan was no good; he had to go. Eddie Tapscott was no good; he had to go. Flip Saunders is no good; he has to go.

Here’s a hint — teams in the NBA are as good as their players. Coaches make very little difference, outside of a very few of them.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM

From Tom Mandel:

If we replace Flip Saunders, we will be the same team we are now. Then you will all be whining that whoever it is doesn’t know how to coach an NBA team or NBA players or doesn’t use the right substitution patterns or whatever.

That’s been the pattern here — Eddie Jordan was no good; he had to go. Eddie Tapscott was no good; he had to go. Flip Saunders is no good; he has to go.

Here’s a hint — teams in the NBA are as good as their players. Coaches make very little difference, outside of a very few of them

@Tom-really if we replace Flip we are no better? I cannot believe even you would write something that no credence. If we change Coaches, we change philosophies and players and coaches can start new and fresh relationships and administer a stamp and identity on how they want a team to perform. So let’s look to the Cowboys/Vikings/in football who made coaching changes. A fresh voice that is respected can go a long way in a locker room, WE HAVE TALENT please do not make this case again. I had no issues with Coach Jordan on offense, it was more on who he trusted to be a defensive coach! As far as Tap, you cannot be serious when he got the interim job? He was keeping the seat warm for Flip period, and the current Coach has a rep for being an offensive coach NOT defensive, the Pistons were already established as that when he got the job!

Tom here’s a hint for you, Coaches make more than a LITTLE difference! Everybody in the NBA has talented players, take a look at 1st year coach Monty Williams or Avery in Jersey? Or I guess Phil Jackson and Doc Rivers have little or no effect at all huh?

I think you are great w\ stats and player efficiencies I really do. But my perspective comes from playing the game and coaching on a smaller scale. So we see the game a tad different.

.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Also on Arenas it is more than the total of minuted play, it is how the minutes were managed…But you saw the game right?

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time December 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Also on Arenas it is more than the total of minutes played, it is how the minutes were managed…But you saw the game right?

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Flip overrated John Wall’s ability to play defense and his ability to control the game. His game seems to rely too much on steals and fast break points. He will improve if he stays healthy, but he just needs to stay confident to hit that jumper.

Gilbert Arenas needs to be the main point of our offense. I think he is the only player that can get over twenty on a consistent basis. He should not sit back and let Wall go because Wall is the playmaker and he is the scorer. Blatche should be after him, but he should be in the post.

Yes Antoine Walker is broke, they did an E-6o story on him last year.

What kind of impact do you guys think Josh Howard will have on us?

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Anyone who says “Coaches make very little difference, outside of a very few of them.” does every coach a disservice and, quite frankly, hasn’t the foggiest idea what a coach does and has, obviously, never coached.

“Last night, Gilbert Arenas played 39 minutes. As to being able to pick the time when sitting him down is somehow better than another time? — get real will you….” – Tom M.
You can’t be serious with that comment. Then again, unless you understand the nuances of the game, I guess you could be serious – wrong, but still serious.

“That’s been the pattern here — Eddie Jordan was no good; he had to go. Eddie Tapscott was no good; he had to go. Flip Saunders is no good; he has to go.” – Tom M.
Correct, now you’re starting to get it. Tapout is automatically excluded from the discussion simply because he was just an excuse for a NBA coach. However, both EJ and Saunders were/are focused on guard-oriented offenses. That is a losing formula in professional basketball. You have to get the forward and center deeply involved in the offense to be successful in the NBA. If you don’t think so, you don’t know what you are watching.

The Getabigboyoffense monicker was to let everyone know just what I was all about. I switched to Gotabigboyoffense after I heard Saunders talking about the type of offense he would run. I switched back after I saw what type of offense Saunders actually runs. However, my displeasure with Flip Saunders is not just because his offensive schemes are innefective (almost non-existent actually), or that his zone defense implementation is as porous as a Jr. high school zone defense. More to the point, I believe that Saunders is way-out-of-touch with the current NBA game. He became out-of-touch in Minnesota; he was out-of-touch in Detroit; and he’s out-of-touch in DC. He was fired in Minnesota; he was fired in Detroit; and he’ll be fired in DC. Until that happens, the development of the Wizards basketball team will be arrested. The Wizards are wasting practice time and game time with Saunders. If the Wizards are to be a competitive NBA team they have to get a different coach.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 9:45 PM

WE WANT A WINNER, I believe that Josh Howard’s impact on the Wizards will be very positive for several reasons:

Josh was a NBA All-Star in 2007. That’s a very good indication that he knows how to play the game. Last year with the Wizards, he brought a real spark to the team, both on offense and defense, and in leadership.

He will provide depth at the 3-spot. Once he gets rid of the rust, he will be the starting three. Al has suffered after the first few games of the year and Saunders wants to have Slick coming off the bench so Josh will take over at the three.

Josh’s presence gives the Wizards a lot of flexibility. Slick could move to the two giving Gil some rest and not be concerned about having to spell Thornton, or Gil could be at the two with Slick at the three giving Josh some rest.

I have been waiting for Josh to get back into action. I was critical of his politics when we first got him from, but I believe that that criticism might have been misplaced; however, I always saw Josh as a very good b-ball player.

IMO, with the return of a healthy, rust-free Josh Howard, the Wizards best five on the court together would be:
1 – Arenas
2 – Slick
3 – Howard
4 – Blatche
5 – McGee

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM

I realize that many of the bloggers will be critical of the “best five on the court together” that I mentioned above, and will be telling me that we are rebuilding and therefore, have to play the young guys in order to be competitive in the future. I totally disagree.

Teams are successfully rebuilt by providing playing time to potentially good players while fielding the best team possible. Rebuilding from the ground up seldom works simply because you get your butt kicked so often in the process that you don’t learn how to be a winner. The best thing that the Wizards can do to provide the franchise with the opportunity to be successful (other than firing Saunders tonight), is to take the pressure off John Wall and have him come off the bench to give Gil some rest; try to give Booker as many minutes as possible in blow-outs; send Seraphin and Ndiaye to the “D” league in the hope that they might learn how to play the NBA game, and sign big, rough, give-6-fouls-and-take-a-seat journeymen to replace them on the roster. Barring fouls and injuries, Kirk should get about 8 minutes per game providing relieve to Gil and/or Slick; Yi should be used about 8 minutes per games providing relieve to Andray; and Armstrong should be used about 8 minutes per game providing relieve to McGee. Gil should get about 24 minutes at the point and another 8 at the two. John Wall should play about 16-24 minutes per game at the point. Slick should get about 24-32 minutes split between the 2 and the 3.

On the good, well-coached teams, every player totally understand his role. He knows how many minutes he is going to play every game and when he is going to be playing. The Wizards players not only don’t know when they are playing or for how many minutes, they don’t even know if they are starting, or playing, or if they will even be dressing from game to game.

Despite the current record, this is a decent team. The addition of a healthy Josh Howard coupled with the replacement of Saunders with Cassell will make it a good team that would be very interesting to watch.

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 11, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Of course, the coach could be the difference between losing and winning. The NBA has talented players on every team. Flip should have never appointed a 19 year old rookie as the captain. Wall probably will be great someday but now he is just fast with a huge upside. That was mistake #1- right out of the jump and now I believe he is afraid to correct this. So the GM needs to step in or someone else and correct this without losing Wall!

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In team sports, a captain is a title given to a member of the team. The title is frequently honorary, but in some cases the captain may have significant responsibility for strategy and teamwork while the game is in progress on the field. In either case, it is a position that indicates honor and respect from one’s teammates – recognition as a leader by one’s peers.

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM

IMO, with the return of a healthy, rust-free Josh Howard, the Wizards best five on the court together would be:
1 – Arenas
2 – Slick
3 – Howard
4 – Blatche
5 – McGee

That is a very good team, but I haven’t soured on Hinrich.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 10:49 PM

@tyrone2000 – Okay, that makes two of us. I’ll bet that there are several other bloggers who feel the same way.

BTW, I liked your inclusion of the definition of captain. It simply doesn’t apply to either of the Wizards appointed captains at this time.

I’d really like to see who the bloggers feel is the real leader of the Wizards. Who is the guy the bloggers think that the Wizards view as the motivator? Who is the guy the Wizards most respect? Who is the guy that the Wizards would VOTE as captain?

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:01 PM

When Saunders looks back for the time at which he began to lose the Wizards in 2010, hopefully he will clearly see that it was when he APPOINTED a former Bulls player who would be playing his first game for the Wizards in 2010-2011 and a rookie who had ZERO minutes of experience in the NBA, neither of whom had played a single minute of time in the NBA as a Wizard, to be Wizards co-captains. This should have been the tip-off to both EG and Ted that Saunders was totally out-of-touch, not only with his team, but with reality. What a stupid, Napoleonic decision.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Final thought for the night…promise.

How about the Wizards conducting an actual secret vote to see who the Wizards players would select as captain(s)? I’d bet a nickle the vote would not be for Flip’s selections.

Message to a-hopefully-soon-departing Flip – You shouldn’t try to shove things down people’s throats. It ends up getting spit right back at you.

Comment from gray16
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:12 PM

you know, i don’t get what all the talk about a captain is for…

reality check, we have no captain.

flip did not assign any captains, he was asked who he felt were the captains and he named the players who were doing the best in training camp. please stop running on with this like he delegates this responsibility that he hasn’t on them.

and let’s please, please, stop being delusional about arenas and wall.

you guys keep talking about how wall isn’t this and he isn’t that, and then turn around and talk about how oh so great gil is…

we talk so much about how wall can’t shoot and gil can, yet, gil is shooting a worse percentage. we talk about how wall is a bad scorer and gil is an amazing scorer, yet, gil makes 1 more point on 1 more shot per game than wall. we talk about how wall is not a traditional point and gil is the best at running the offense, yet, wall is averaging 4 more assists than arenas and the same amount of turnovers. people are now all the sudden talking about how wall is a bad defender, but don’t talk about how gil is our worst defender and one of the leagues worst defenders. we talk about how wall has nothing but speed and that’s it… well all arenas has is a track record where he was a great, yet overrated player, and some people see that over where he is actually at today.

so while we continue to get worked up after any loss and talk about how wall is overrated, let’s at least not contradict ourselves and overrate gil in the same post.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Not every team even has a captain. Cleveland don’t have a captain, even though they suck they have better record as us. Mr. 6-9 shooting floaters plays for them and he was known for being a great leader for us, but he isn’t their captain. We really don’t have a player capable of being a captain. Gilbert is the closes but I can’t see anyone being a vocal leader on this team because everyone is inconsistent and would be a hypocrite for criticizing anyone else.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 12:07 AM

gray16, I was going to retire for the evening and decided to check the blog once more and saw your post. DARN, now I feel that I have to respond. I apologize to any who thought that they were free of me for the evening.

We DO have a captain, in fact we have captains, players who report to center court prior to every game to get the rules straight with the referees. Those players report to center court because Saunders has designated them to be the Wizards captains. Why else would you believe that they should behave that way?

If you actually believe that shooting percentage is the most important factor in being an effective point guard, I would love to coach against your team. Yes, John is currently a bad defender. Does he have the talent to get better, Yes! Is Gil a bad defender, Yes! Are they equally bad defenders, Yes! Who is the better offensive player? Anyone who thinks that the answer is John Wall is to report immediately to the psychiatric intensive care unit.

John has a lot of upside; however, he has an awful lot to learn. Being a point guard in the NBA is not an easy task. Currently, there are MANY NBA point guards better than John Wall. Can John become one of the better point guards? Sure, but not with Saunders as his coach. The current situation is that we have a coach (Saunders) who never progressed, as a player, beyond the CBA, who has determined to impart his extensive (?) knowledge of being a NBA point guard on a rookie.

Is John Wall a premier NBA point guard? No! Does John Wall have the potential to be a very good NBA point guard? Certainly. Will he achieve that with Saunders as his coach? Not a chance.

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 12:34 AM

so because a player reports to halfcourt to meet with the refs, he is the captain? so that’s your definition of a captain?… nevermind then, because they way you were talking about it, you made it seem like it was someone who had an impact on the team, not the refs… and shouldn’t hinrich be the guy talking to the refs, since he’s pretty much our veteran player with a lot of knowledge of the game? so what’s the problem…

i never said shooting percentage is the most important thing for a pg, but it definitely is important if your point guard is taking the most shots on the team. i would love to coach against your team that relies on a guy shooting 20 shots per game shooting below 40 percent, makes my job easier lol.

john is a bad defender? you base this on what? the only player that i can really remember doing great against wall was nash, and he does great against a lot of people. john is just as bad of a defender as gil? are you serious…

and who’s the better offensive player? what do you mean by that, the player playing better on offense this season, or the player who played better offense in 2006?…

because like i said, wall gets 4 more assists while averaging the same amount of turnovers. wall is shooting better. gil is scoring 1 point more, while shooting 1 more shot. so who’s having a better year offensively? john wall.

but i agree, john wall has an awful lot to learn. just like gil has an awful long way to go before being a good player again.

can john wall become better under saunders? i feel so, i don’t see why not. actually, since saunders is his coach, he’s getting to learn under one of the best coaches in the history of the nba, mr sam cassell… lol. but that point stands, without flip, cassell wouldn’t be here. and flip has coached billups, cassell, and marbury, and they all played great under him. so i don’t think he’s holding any pgs back from playing at their best. so if “mr great” sam cassell is teaching him, and flip has never held any good pg back before, what’s the problem…

and what does flip never reaching the nba have to do with anything. do you honestly believe that how good of basketball player you are determines how good of a coach you will be…

Comment from JWALL
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:43 AM

The activation of Josh Howard may be the key this season and after for EG and Flip. All the coaches and players on this current are EG GM moves. While he is a good selector of talent he is a poor selector of coaches. The problems for this franchise starts with the GM. Gilbert could very well do what MV is doing for the Eagles. But his hands are tied because of Flip’s love for Hinrich. Don’t get me wrong Kirk is a good player. But this is JWalls team like it or not. Gilbert is a better player than Kirk. Gilbert can help JWall by being on the court with him. Not on the bench in favor of taking big minutes from either player.
If we had to do it all over again we still take JWall.
while he is the new face of the franchise he is not the savior. The savior is a superstar from Denver name Melo. Ted needs to step in and tell EG to give the reigns to Sam Cassell Then ask Melo if he would consider coming to Washington. You guy’s don’t know the devotion of the Baltimore legacy of basketball. That legacy may be what this franchise needs. Better still if u don’t think Sam is the answer the give patrick ewing or mark jackson a shot.
but that may be having to force EG’s hand.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM

Tom looking at Wiz on TV is not the same as being there live in the atmosphere of the fans, players and the fans. Friday night those NY fans were quiet as a mouse the first half. Especially the 1st qtr. They were chanting looks like agent zero is back. Then Flip pulled the plug.
I witnessed this live.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM

A lot addressed to me. Let me take some of them 1 by 1.

@ getabig — You and I agree about many things, and we disagree about a few things. Above all, I’m glad you stick w/ this blog. Sometimes, when you are frustrated, you threaten to quit.

One place where we agree: we both deplore the marketing-based hype that has been foisted on John Wall. He just turned 20, for crying out loud. That’s little more than a child. He’s played a few dozen meaningful basketball games *since high school!* Did anyone do this to Rajon Rondo? Or even to Chris Paul, who is maybe the best player in the NBA? It’s pointless; it can’t be good for him (tho he is a tough-minded kid, so I don’t think it’ll really hurt him). And it raises expectations irrationally.

We also agree that he is exceptionally talented. But you don’t seem to see that he has actually *shown results* in several games, although he is certainly not consistent.

There have been games this year in which John Wall already looked like a premier NBA point guard. Game 2 vs. the Hawks, game 3 vs. Philly, game 6 vs. Houston, even g.7 vs. Charlotte (but terrible shooting from him that night), the 2d Philly game, and the Lakers game.

His shooting has been streaky, but in most cases shooting is the easiest basketball skill to improve. He has not had the TO problem I feared; it’s a little problem not a big one, I mean. Over the last couple of weeks, on the other hand, he has declined — and I suspect it’s a combination of physical problems and, in a sense, reality clicking in. This is a tough league, and despite the money it’s a tough life.

So his long-term success is a question — of course! But he has already been an impact guy. Can he be *the leader* of this team? That’s ridiculous. Can he display leadership, on the other hand? Yes, he needs to. *Any* player can show leadership, even a rookie.

I don’t think he needs to come off the bench or see his minutes reduced. I think he needs to see his fans become more patient.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM

@ getabig — you think I’m dinging coaches by saying that they have little effect on team success. What if, instead, I am saying that pretty much all coaches who operate at this rarified level are very qualified (leaving out Ed Tapscott who wasn’t ).

Obviously, coaches are very important in a zillion ways, to the players individually, to the discipline of the squad as a whole, to the world that forms around the team. No question.

But there is very little evidence of players producing more for one coach than another in their career. There has been empirical research on this. Guys move from team to team, and their FG%, their rebounding rate, all their numbers, stay the same. Yes there a few coaches who are exceptions to that rule. Phil Jackson is one. But they are only *slightly* exceptional as it were — guys seem to play a *little* better when he’s their coach.

On the other hand, there is very *strong* evidence that better players have a huge impact on win-loss record; no surprise there. By and large, teams are as good in the games they play as the productivity their players are able to deliver in those games. Somehow that doesn’t seem surprising, does it?

So… no intention to ding coaches. It’s just that the players have the hugely preponderant influence.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM

JWALL — maybe being at the game *prevents you* from seeing what is happening. Who was put in for Gil against the Knicks? The few minutes he spent on the bench were given either to Hinrich or to Young. Both of them were *much* more productive than Gil.

Kirk played a great game — he was the main reason we were in this game. He produced 7 fewer points than Gil — but he took 12 fewer shots!! He got to the line 6 times in 22 minutes and made all 6 FTs (Gil didn’t get to the line even once), he had zero turnovers (Gil had 4). He played tough defense — I can’t remember one time a guard scored easily on him.

I love Gilbert Arenas, but he is *not* the player he was in ’06-7 and there is no reason to think he will be again. Even *he* says that!

As to Josh Howard being “key” — again, you are looking back to a guy being productive in his mid-20s and before multiple injuries. The past is gone. If you’re going to dream, dream about the future.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM

@ Jeffmalone — for sure you have a different perspective on the game than mine. You have a right to it — and I have a right to mine.

Gilbert isn’t going to play 48 minutes, man. Really, it’s questionable for him to play as many as he did play vs. the Knicks. So he had to come out.

Moreover, rotations have structure; he came out more or less when he usually comes on nights he starts. And *no one* works with a crystal ball to know if taking a guy out at this second or another will have better or worse effect on what he does a half hour later.

Our problems in the 2d half came from bad shooting, turnovers, and putting the Knicks on the line *repeatedly*. Gil contributed to all three of those problems.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM

@ jeffmalone — you can’t compare the effect of coaching in the nfl and the nba. They are altogether different kinds of sports.

Yes, a new Wizards coach would bring a new philosophy, etc. Would that turn our players into different players?

You and JWALL both referenced Doc Rivers as a terrific coach. Was he terrific when he won 24 games? Then he got KG and RA and won 66 games: had he become a better coach? Each of the next two years the team’s win total went down: is that because he got worse as a coach? Or maybe it was because KG and RA and PP are all players in their 30s and getting a little worse year by year?

This year he is 19-4 — look at KG’s numbers and Rondo’s numbers: sky-high! What happens when KG declines over this long season? Will the team start to do a little less well? Why, because Doc will lose some coaching skill?

The year before Doc came to the Celtics they won 36 games under Jim O’Brian. Do you know who Walter McCarty is? I didn’t think so. He played 1900 minutes at forward for the Celtics that year.

Then they hired Doc and went 45-37 the next year. Must be because he is a better coach than O’Brian, right? Or maybe acquiring Gary Payton had something to do with it? And Al Jefferson — which meant that big Walter only got 500 minutes).

Doc Rivers *is* a good coach. Give him the ’06-07 Celtics, and he’ll win 24 games. Give him the ’07-08 Celtics, and he’ll win 66 games.

Better players make better teams.

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM

All the talk about field goal % and assists = playing well. Not true at all! A player can go 7 for 10 shooting but missed the 3 shots during the time they needed a basket. Dish out 10 assists only while subs are in the game and turns it over when the featured players are in.
Stats are just what they are but does not tell the entire story. Maybe 55% of it…

Watch the game while Wall bounces the ball at the top of the key or more like towards half court with no purpose except if he can take off to the basket. Young can do that and he does not have the control or flow of the game without pulling up for a shot. If Flip would just bring him in off the bench he will learn to be consistant quicker and learn the NBA game.

Same thing with McGee. He blocks a few shots and frequently is pushed out or just out of position. That is why the Wizards looked so much better when Kevin was in the game because his positioning was so much better. Not that he shot the ball better or block more shots. All we will remember is that incredible block (stat) that McGee had and make the conclusion that he is playing well. Mc Gee plays hard just like Wall but they should not be starting until they are ready. They are not!

They need to take the chains off Arenas and allow him to dictate and not differ.

Start Arenas, Young, Howard, Blatche, and Armstrong.
Give that squad big minutes to see if they will mix. Allowing Wall to heal, watch, and learn.

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 12:53 PM

i agree with you tom that you can’t compare nfl and nba coaches. the nfl relies much more on coaching than the nba.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM

It appears as though there are two camps on this blog with reference to the value of a coach to the success or failure of a team: those who have had experience as a coach, and those who have not.

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:04 PM

tyrone, you think sitting on the bench teaches you more than being in the game… if that’s so, kwame brown should’ve been an all star by now.

it’s just like studying in school. you can read all the books you want and have that knowledge, but until you actually do hands on stuff, you aren’t really prepared. what if teachers taught math completely conceptually, and never gave you practice problems? i don’t know about you, but the only way i was able to learn math was by constantly doing practice problems. you can still learn the concepts by your mistakes, your gonna make them whether you are doing a lot of problems or just a little, but you learn quicker by applying your knowledge rather than just beating the stuff into your head imo.

so i think wall deserves big minutes, due to the fact that he needs to learn. if wall needs to watch someone to study them, he can watch tape of people (which he says he does) but until he’s in that same situation with the pressure on him, how is he gonna know how to react?…

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:07 PM

when howard returns, i say start:

wall
arenas
howard
blatche
mcgee (mcgee isn’t going to learn on the bench either, he makes mistakes, you can’t learn from mistakes if you don’t play to make them)

howard is one of the best first quarter players in the league, we don’t need young in the starting lineup with him. young would be that spark off the bench at the three.

wall delegated the ball handling to arenas a lot in that first quarter the other night, and arenas did well with it while wall wasn’t doing so good with it, missing two shots and not having an assist. wall will need to learn to adjust to playing off ball in this situation if they are going to continue doing it, then when arenas comes off and wall is on, then he can go back to the primary ball handler.

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM

gabbo,

to turn your own thoughts back on you, you never coached in the nba… how are you supposed to tell flip how to coach when you never coached at that level… especially seeing as flip is unable to teach wall anything since he never played above the cba…

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM

If Wall had been picked in the 2nd round and played the same way he would not be a starter. It is only because he was the 1st pick of the draft that he became the starter and captain of an NBA team playing other NBA teams with equal or better talent. The Wizards fix that issue and they will be better off…

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM

tyrone, if we drafted gilbert arenas and he was playing the same way, he wouldn’t be starting either….

wall was drafted because of how well he played in high school and college.

arenas is getting heavy minutes because of how he played 4 years ago.

we know both of them have the potential to be top level players, that’s why they are getting heavy minutes. neither of them are having top level seasons, both of them have had a couple top level games this season, but they are both going to get heavy minutes.

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM

By the way I didn’t say don’t play Wall or McGee…take the pressure off them and allow them to develope a game against the backups…

Comment from tyrone2000
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM

When Arenas is playing there is a control at the point that Wall does not have yet. Arenas is not consistently playing well but he can control tempo in a NBA game. Wall and Arenas plays well together but they both are giving up the ball when they both need it to be all that they can. Arenas is much more than coming off screens to score. Wall needs the ball to drive and does not have a quick enough release to be a jump shooter yet.

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM

when arenas is at point, there are times where he’s under control, and then there are times where he keeps turning the ball over. it’s no different than wall.

i understand the favoritism for arenas due to all he did for us back in the day, but at this season, he isn’t playing any better than wall.

we feel arenas can return to where he was at, and we feel wall can get to the level his potential predicts. but both of them need to play to reach those levels, and both of them have shown signs of being able to reach those levels (again). but neither of them has returned/gotten to that level yet, so there is no reason to play arenas over wall at this point.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 5:12 PM

@ getabig — you could say it differently. The guys who are coaches think coaches are important!

(You might remember, btw, that I *did* say coaches play an important role.)

@ tyrone2000 — after the first dozen games of the season, John Wall was already among the top 10 point guards in the league. Since then, with the exception of the LA game when he was fantastic, he has fallen off — seemingly due to being a bit hobbled but also no doubt the effect of rookie-shock. No, Wall is not being outplayed in any way by Gil.

Also @ tyrone2000 — there is *no such thing* as a shot that counts vs. a shot that doesn’t count. They all count. You miss the first quarter shots, and there are no important shots in the 4th quarter. Duh.

Moreover, an assist to a bench player is the same as an assist to an all-star; it results in 2-3 points for your team. If your team amasses more points — no matter who scores them or when they’re scored — your team wins the game.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 12, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Since we are rebuilding I am content with JWall being the starting PG. Outside of Blake Griffin is still the best player to come out of the draft. Yes he is encountering some growing pains along with being injured. But he will be ok. He is the face of the franchise and not the savior. I am not bothered by everyone’s criticism of im being a captain or whether he should start. My beef and chief complaint is with Flip is his handling of the players he has on this. Some of you over analyze this teams performance. I believe the Wiz have the wrong coach in place. At least he has not showed me anything except being a snappy dresser.
It is obvious this will be a long season. So the only thing that will shut me up is and make me happy is to see the Wiz win the next 3 in a row.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Since we are rebuilding I am content with JWall being the starting PG. Outside of Blake Griffin he is still the best player to come out of the draft. Yes he is encountering some growing pains along with being injured. But he will be ok. He is the face of the franchise and not the savior. I am not bothered by everyone’s criticism of him being a captain or whether he should start. My beef and chief complaint is with Flips handling of the players he has on this roster. Some of you over analyze this teams performance. I believe the Wiz have the wrong coach in place. At least he has not showed me anything except being a snappy dresser.
It is obvious this will be a long season. So the only thing that will shut me up is and make me happy is to see the Wiz win the next 3 in a row.

Comment from JWALL
Time December 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Lakers, Nets and Heat. Will we rise to theoccasion or will say I can only see us winning one out of the next 3.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM

@Tom M. – The old adage “If you want to really understand something, try to teach it” is very appropriate with coaching a sport. To our discussion, the people who have devised basketball offenses and defenses and have lived through the success and failures associated with their choices, know what works and when and why it works. They also understand what doesn’t work and when and why it doesn’t work.

So, while I agree with your comment, “The guys who are coaches think coaches are important!”, I do so because it is a fact, and not the joke you intended it to be.

Comment from WE WANT A WINNER
Time December 12, 2010 at 6:25 PM

The Wizards could use a win streak but it is not likely that it will happen in the next three games. We wasted chances when we got blown out by teams like the Raptors, Kings, and when we lost at home to Cleveland and Charlotte.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Folks, be sure to cast your on-line vote for your favorite Wizards for the All-Stag Game. You can access the voting page from the Wizards main page. One electronic vote is allowed per day from an IP address. However, you can submit as many paper ballots as you wish.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 6:56 PM

or the All-Star Game.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 12, 2010 at 9:24 PM

@ Gotabig — I was ribbing you, yes (hence the smiley face), but I don’t think the idea that coaches are important is “a joke.”

They are important. But they don’t make guys put up better numbers. This is something you can study, and people have studied it. There’s no evidence for it.

Moreover, the fact that teaching basketball (or pretty much any subject) helps you understand it doesn’t mean that your understanding will make guys into better players than they are. Of course if you take someone who is just learning you will surely improve them. I imagine there would be *plenty* of evidence that high school coaches make their players much better.

But we are talking about NBA players. They’ve been coached *heavily*, most of them since they were 12-14.

Doc Rivers hasn’t made Kevin Garnett a better player. Kevin Garnett has made Doc look like he’s a better coach. With one set of players, he won 24 games. With a different set of players, he won 66 games and a title.

As a team, you can only be as good as your players. That’s your limit.

Comment from getabigboyoffense
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Tom M. – I believe that we might be discussing two different aspects of success for a basketball team. You are stating that personnel is most important and, I believe, you are assuming that I disagree. However, I totally agree. No matter how good the coach, he can not make a silk purse out of a cow’s ear. However, some coaches simply don’t get it.

A coach who is competent enough to make an honest assessment of the talents of his players and is then able to put those players in a position to make best use of those talents will be successful. A coach who tries to make a player’s talents fit his system, despite what the talents might be, will be successful ONLY if the talents and the system are in alignment. Coach Saunders is trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. A three-guard offense with the accompanying match-up zone defense just doesn’t do it in the NBA; throwing young guys under the bus instead of admitting that you might be at fault for not providing the appropriate coaching is a demonstration of lack of respect for your players and is simply an attempt to deflect blame and protect your job. Saunders is not the right coach for this team to achieve the level of success that the Wizards deserve.

Doc Rivers has been successful because he has been smart enough to use both offensive and defensive schemes that are suitable for his player personnel.

Where you and I most disagree regarding the 2010-2011 Wizards is the skills of the personnel. I believe that we have the personnel to be successful, you think that we are a bad team in need of help. My issue is that until we get a coach who knows how to take advantage of each player’s talents, we will lose more than we should; you believe that no matter what the Wizards might do, this year is a waste. If Saunders remains the coach it will appear as though you made the best assessment. If Saunders is replaced by Sam Cassell, I believe that my assessment will be more accurate.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM

This team doesn’t even display the basic fundamentals of basketball right now. If the only person that knows how to set a pick is your third or fourth player down the line, there’s a problem. If players are not rotating in their defensive assignments, there’s a problem. Whether it’s flip or the players, i don’t think 15 players will be fired, whether it’s flip or not, he’s going to be the one held responsible.

Great dialogue….the key for Doc Rivers is that the players bought into his system and their faith in that system propelled them to a championship and to elite status as a team. The all stars on that team had some of their “career” averages go down for the success of the team, and will gladly defer to the player with the best opportunity if need be.

The celtics openly stated that they didn’t go “all out” during the season, to save energy for the post season, plus KG was still recuperating the whole season from his knee injury.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM

ronny thompson, regardless of his credentials, made a great observation about the wizards.

When Javale received the flagrant foul, no one even went over to Brand when he fouled Javale (not necessarily to fight, but just to whisper something in his ear).

When armstrong fouled the guy on Miami’s team, Juwan Howard of all people shoved armstrong, yada yada yada. We don’t have a team yet, in the sense of an “NBA” team. Once we get an identity, and bonding (which will probably be a while) but hopefully not plural seasons, I guess we all have to wait it out.
No need in ranting and raving each game, it is what it is. We need more than a coach, a all star, etc.

#patienceisavirtue…..until the next game…lol

Comment from gray16
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM

dc, i think you are coming around to meet me half way on our feelings about this team.

i agree that this team does not have a lot of talent, that’s exactly why we are losing. and yes, we need to get better players to win more games. and yes we do need to grow as a team, it will happen as time goes on.

so yes, let’s be patient, and let the team grow. we just need to hope for progress, if that doesn’t happen, we are doing something wrong.

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 12, 2010 at 10:56 PM

lol i cant believe someone said john wall wasn’t worth the #1 pick.

he has the talent and work ethic to become a great point guard. its his rookie year and hes already had some great games. get off his balls. did you think he would come in and turn us into a championship contender in his rookie season with all of our worthless players?

to me the best lineup is
wall, young, howard, blatche, mcgee

i just think nick’s game complements wall’s game better than does arenas’s. arenas needs to have the ball with him to be effective. whenever wall and arenas play, its as if they take turns hogging the ball and that’s not going to work. arenas should be the 6th man off the bench and hopefully gets traded sometime in the future…

i hope mcgee really focuses and gets better. right now we have no good center… he needs to be the guy for us.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM

hmmmmmm, the only thing i see jwall learning is how to use his speed (individual quality, not team). If we aren’t running plays or setting screens, what else is he learning right now.

Ok, steve nash taught him something, but steve has players that use basic fundamentals to their advantage….0_0 (blank stare)

Comment from Arthritic
Time December 13, 2010 at 12:23 PM

the thing i really hate about javale mcgee is how he gets visibly frustrated after every single mistake he makes… especially since he tends to make a lot of them. if you make a mistake, learn from it and take it like a man… instead of making that ugly face showing everyone how frustrated you are. his “frustrated face” kind of reminds me of that time glen davis got frustrated and cried after KG yelled at him.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 13, 2010 at 2:36 PM

JWall, AB and GIl are all having knee problems? What is going on?

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM

wow, that’s like 75% of the scoring……not a good look

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time December 13, 2010 at 11:44 PM

@ gotabig –

“No matter how good the coach, he can not make a silk purse out of a cow’s ear.”

“A coach who is competent enough to make an honest assessment of the talents of his players and is then able to put those players in a position to make best use of those talents will be successful.”

But if the talents of his team = “a cow’s ear”, and successful = “a silk purse”, then there’s a contradiction here.

The current Wizards squad comprises rookies, cast-offs, veteran minimum players, D League players, guys past their prime and coming off injury, one heady steady vet, one fast-improving Center, and a couple of well-known question marks. Half these guys or more won’t be with us next year!

If by thinking we have enough talent to be successful, you mean that when the ball goes up on any given night we have a chance to win that game — of course! And last year, that was true of the Nets as well. But the other team *also* has the talent to win that game.

Teams with more talent win more games. Avery Johnson won a lot of games when he had the Mavs players. He’s not winning very many with the Nets players, is he?

As to all the nonsense about Doc Rivers did this and Doc Rivers got his players to “buy into” that — let me remind you: the year before the Celtics got KG and Ray Allen, Doc Rivers won 24 games.

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