Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM

hey i’ve been hearing a lot of rumors about a wizards trade, not just on here, but on other sites. a lot of people say caron butler may be the guy to go.

i have a proposal to the rest of you wiz fans:

caron butler for richard hamilton

i tried it in the trade machine and it works out. but look what it does for both teams. caron would fit great with the pistons, especially around gordon and stuckey. and for the wiz, rip could run his routes for flip again, and would fit into the role a lot better.

wiz lineup:
arenas
rip
miller (nick young, mcguire, or blatche till mike returns)
tawn
haywood

pistons lineup
stuckey
gordon
butler
villanueva
wallace

i think this would work out perfectly for both teams, what do you guys think. besides, isn’t it the pistons that always wind up with the old wizards players lol

Comment from getabigboydefenseandoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 1:19 PM

really don’t need another guard. unless it’s a real pass first point guard

Comment from dlts20
Time December 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I expect us to win tonight. Gil & AJ never lose to GS and they usually play there best ball. Even when Gil was a bad PG with NO PG skills, he always looked like half Magic Johnson & half MJ against GS. He always lights them up.

If we wouldve won last game at the end, I would be 100% sure that Gil would put up his best numbers of the season so far tonight. Like he would go for 40 or 33 & 13 or something but since Gil lost it at the end, Im scared that he will go in the tank again like he’s done after some of our other losses where he’s choked.

However, I became more confident after reading Gil’s comments as he sounds like he really believes he is getting his game back and is about to go off. I would love to see him & AJ go off tonight like they normaly do against GS and then see Gil go off again on the Suns like he normaly does. Then I think he would be good to go the rest of the year

Comment from dlts20
Time December 18, 2009 at 1:28 PM

I could see Gil having one of his old fashion battles tonight. I could see him & Ellis going at it. Ellis has been a monster lately and Gil loves to kill the Warriors and is confident right now. Remember how he use to play against Baron Davis when he was on GS, how he played against Bynum on Detroit this Preseason, how he use to go at it with Jason Terry from his same school, and so on. I could see him starting a new one with Ellis tonight as both make alot of plays but Gil looks like the old Gil again and outplays him. BTW, when I say battle, I dont mean just 2 guys playing well. I mean they really go at eachother. Gil had very physical matchups with those guys and you could tell that it was more amped up. They did more special moves against eachother and everything. I could see that happening tonight

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Comment from dlts20
Time December 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I expect us to win tonight. Gil & AJ never lose to GS and they usually play there best ball.

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I had hope with your comment until I realized that teams the Wiz used to dominate in the last 4 seasons (Bobcats, Hawks, Clippers, and Kings) aren’t being dominated anymore.

If Gil goes for 40/13, he’ll help my fantasy team tremendously.

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@ dmac

you mentioned jerryd bayless in your last posts. he is an intriguing young PG and he does have talent. i wonder, since i don’t know much about him – is he a pass-first PG (e.g., stockton, nash, kidd) or a shoot-first PG (e.g., marbury, jennings)?

derrick favors is NBA ready, but he’s only 6-9 and may be more like a jamison/blake griffin hybrid instead of being a true big man. a knock on him is weakness passing out of double-teams.

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@ dcbutler

this is going to ruin your weekend, but ed tapscott is the wizards “scout”. his official title is director of player development, which by definition, means someone that oversees all the minor league players and staff (this sounds like NBDL) as well as move the players in and out of the system (grunfeld works with ed on this).

the blazers got “lucky” (instead of having a good scout) but the oden experiment, although looking good this year before another season ending injury, may be their “curse of the big man”. portland is a good basketball town and they’ve already had the sam bowie over mj and now oden over durant *mistakes*.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM

re: Butler being traded

“You got to play basketball,” Butler said. “If trades or anything like that happen, that’s the nature of the business. Me personally, I’ve been on three different teams in my short career. So, I don’t worry about that. I’m versatile. I’ll play anywhere.”

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It sounds like CB3 is ready to move on if it happens and he doesn’t sound too upset if he’s moved. Is this a good thing or a bad thing for the Wizards?

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM

re: Warriors

from a fantasy perspective, Anthony Morrow is due for a breakout game because he’s had 4 bad games since dealing with a death in his family. he scares me because all he does is shoot 3s – which the wiz are still weak at defending.

i think stevenson is going to play a lot of minutes – much to the shagrin of some on this blog. if you only focus on deshawn’s +/- numbers for the last few games, they’ve been decent, not like a -18.

lastly, our GOOD FRIEND and perennial wizards hater john hollinger of espn is advocating the wiz to break up. is he right or is he wrong?

Comment from Jaba
Time December 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I really don’t like the idea of Caron being traded. I don’t like the team to break up. Period. We’ve waited for such a long time to see the big three on the court together again, now let’s just cheer for them and hang in there just a little longer.
I still think that our problems have to do with players trying to define their roles within a new system. But with a little more time they will find their comfort level. And then, hopefully THIS group will be as good as everybody thought they could be. GO WIZARDS!!!

Comment from hankfree
Time December 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM

When is Saunders going to wake up and pull Stevenson for Foye. Stevenson has dropped in 11 points in the entire month of December so far. 90+ minutes of action…. We have lost 6 straight. Stevenson and Boykins are journeyman guards. Why is someone with a proven 15+ppg and 6 assists getting 5-6 minutes a game. I just dont understand it.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 3:56 PM

@wizards_fusion – Are you serious, the LOTTERY COACH is the LOTTERY SCOUT? Can we include him in any future trade?

Comment from maggicman11
Time December 18, 2009 at 3:57 PM

As far as trades are concerned, that seems to be what we need. problem is who can we get for who we have to offer? it would be great to get a carmelo or durant. but we dont have anyone to trade to get anyone of significant value back. not that would lead to a chmpionship. Rip Hamilton wont get it done. our best bet would be to try for Amare. if we cant get him, i dont see us getting any players that can change the path we’re on as a team.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Has anyone other than our “crack” medical staff evaluated Mike Miller’s leg injury? That’s an awfully long time to recover from a sprain.

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Does anyone know if the Washington Wizards still doing their toy drive for December? If so, is it for all games, what do you bring, and where do you bring them to the games? I’m going to the 76ers game on Tuesday, and I thought it would be nice to donate a toy and get a free ticket for it! any info would be much appreciated!!

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I really don’t like the suggested Caron for Rip Hamilton trade. Rip is frequently injured and he is two years older than CB. I’d prefer a pure point guard.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM

@ GABBO

I’m serious – your nemesis is now back to being the team scout. In truth, there isn’t that much Tap is doing when the Wiz traded away all their draft picks.

Speaking of scout, former Wiz assistant coach Phil Hubbard (under Eddie Jordan) didn’t make Eddie’s 76ers coaching circle; thus, he’s now scouting for the Orlando Magic. I am unsure why the Wiz didn’t try to get Phil and allow him to be a scout for DC when this guy certainly knows basketball (led his UMich Wolverines to the 1976 NCAA finals and lost against Bob Knight’s UIndiana Hoosiers). He also played professionally for 10 seasons and he does have knowledge on the personnel for the Wizards.

The Snyder-Cerrato friendship is akin to the Grunfeld-Tapscott friendship. My head hurts thinking about these things.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Does anyone know if the Washington Wizards still doing their toy drive for December?

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Well, if the team is doing it, you just drop off your toy into the large cardboard cubes immediately ahead of the entrance lanes. There are Wizards reps that’ll give you a voucher for a free ticket to a future game.

The process works the same way for food drives and other charitable events at the Verizon Center.

Comment from therealbigthree
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Go wizards. Tonight is the night we end the losing streak and start winning games. I like are team but we need to build chemistry and play tougher down the stretch. Heres to a win tonight.

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:46 PM

this is the reason i say butler for rip:

the wizards main troubles right now are at the two and three spots. the two spot has been switched at least 4 times so far, between miller, foye, nick, and deshawn. and practically even arenas played there a lot when mike james was playing before his injury. so the two spot is unstable.

then the three spot, where caron doesn’t fit into flip’s system. people keep talking about a pure point guard, but what is your definition of a pure point? a guy who holds on to the ball 99% of the time like nash or cp3? i don’t see how that helps the team myself, especially with flip’s system, and that would only hurt arenas’ production. besides, arenas doesn’t handle the ball too much, but not too little, makes great passes, just needs to work on his shooting off the dribble.

so back to caron, if you trade him for rip, you ultimately fix the problems at the two and three spot, as miller can slip to the three, who can give you just about as many rebounds as caron, who moves the ball better, is unselfish, and is a hard worker. with rip, you are getting a guy who has played in flip’s system, plays good d, and knows how to win in playoff situations. someone mentioned health, but caron has been injured a good amount of time for the wizards, while rip has only had problems these past two years. don’t see caron having the upperhand in the health dept.

the only problem then would be the bench, which still needs a pass first proven pg, or mabye mike james is the guy we just don’t realize it.

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:51 PM

What does everybody think of this trade:

Washington trades Mike James, Stevenson, Oberto, and McGuire to the Raptors

Washington also trades Crittendon to the Warriors

The Raptors give us Chris Bosh and cash considerations

The Warriors give the Raptors Anthony Randolph, and the Utah Jazz Deavan George

The Jazz give Golden State Ronnie Price and Kyrylo Fesenko

trading draft picks would obviously be assumed….of course this trade would only even be possibly close to being realistic if the Wizards end up a lottery team (which they are moving closer towards being)……this trade w/out the draft picks is even remotely considered realistic if it is looking like Chris Bosh will be leaving Toronto anyway, why not get a lottery pick, and Anthony Randolph (who is a great prospect right now)……the Warriors and the Jazz both get a little money in expiring contracts as well

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:54 PM

so if in a billion years the trade i just proposed was even slightly possible, imagine this lineup:

1. Arenas
2. Miller
3. Butler
4. Bosh
5. Haywood
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6. Jamison
7. Foye
8. Blatche
9. Young
10. McGee

with that lineup, you can almost certainly guarantee a championship next season

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

that 2nd unit off the bench is even stronger than the T-Wolves and the Nets starting lineup right now!! lol

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM

just remembered the sixers broke their 12 game losing streak against the warriors. not getting my hopes up, but i’m feeling a win tonight. let’s just say this is the most confident i’ve been in a wizards win in a while.

haywood should go off against the small ball. i expect a lot of zone defense from flip to counteract the small ball and shot jacking from the warriors. mabye a 4-1 zone is in order lol

Comment from Rick
Time December 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM

The problem with a possible Caron trade, is that he is playing so poorly it will be hard to get something worthwhile in return. But still, if we give up Caron and Foye and Blatche we may be able to target a Chris Bosh? I don’t think it is wise to move Blatche though. I don’t really think it’s wise to move Butler either. Something has got to give though. Losing 6 games in a row by 3 points or less has been completely demoralizing.

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM

@ rick, i’m pretty sure anytime an nba team trades for someone, they scout that guy enough to know what they are getting. it doesn’t take long to realize that caron just doesn’t fit well into the system, and see how he fit into the role previously. i’m pretty sure caron is still a hot ticket for many teams, but i can understand people not wanting to give up on him yet.

as for bosh, i don’t know if i like that trade. bosh is a little soft to me, he drifts further and further from the post as the year goes on it seems. plus i’m pretty sure he would leave after this season, but if if the wizards are looking for something big this offseason, it would make sense then. but if the wizards are trying to build off of what they have, adding bosh wouldn’t do much imo.

i also have doubts about trading for amare either. amare isn’t a good post option anymore, he just feeds off of pick and roles, even though an arenas/amare pick and roll sounds deadly. also amare’s defense has never been that good. but i wouldn’t be against a trade for him too much, it would just depend on who the wiz gave up for him, as he might not stick around either.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Golden State tonight.

BIG thumbs up for ‘Dray.

Go Wiz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 6:33 PM

What does everybody think of this trade:

Washington trades Mike James, Stevenson, Oberto, and McGuire to the Raptors

Washington also trades Crittendon to the Warriors

The Raptors give us Chris Bosh and cash considerations
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OK, so Wizfan4life (I’m taking the Tom Mandel stance), why would the Raptors take all of the Wiz’s crap and give us their most valuable commodity?

I don’t know what you used to make up these trades but I can tell you that the trade machine misses one element – the element of common sense.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

@Rick – “Caron and Foye and Blatche” for Bosh?. Bosh goes away as the season progresses. Maybe Caron for Bosh, but I’d rather have Caron.

My definition of a pure point guard is someone who thinks pass first and gets the offense moving.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time December 18, 2009 at 6:45 PM

lol “the Tom Mandel stance” thats a good one.. i say we all wait and see… we can’t trade anyone from the blog but its always fun to see who you could get.. but truth be told no one is going to Give you more than Caron will be able to anyway so its not like there is a much better 3 out there that we could pick up and NO more gards for real

Comment from ChenierFan
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM

We don’t need any trades, the Wiz just need to shake up the line-ups.

If Flip does not see the light in starting Andray and saving Antawn for the 4th quarter, then please start and play Dom over Deshawn. Dom is a better defender, rebounder, looseball grabber, shot blocker at the defensive side of the court and perhaps better on the offensive side of the court because Deshawn’s skill level has slipped so much. I would also prefer to start Nick at instead of Deshawn also, but it looks like Flip is no longer a Nick fan.

We also need to see Javalle tonight, as well as all other nights.

That is a good questions about when Mike will return

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Wizards-fusion: I’m basing that trade on the fact that the Raptors would get our lottery pick and they would get more than $15 million in expiring contracts……if Bosh ends up leaving, this deal would certainly be worth it for the Raptors

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM

and I agree with ChenierFan, we don’t need to trade anyone yet…..it’s always fun to throw out little trades here and there though!

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

chenierfan, flip would be very unwise (using nice words lol) if he were not to start antawn. look at who seems to be the only one to get the games started…

remember before antawn was on the team what happened? slow starts and more slow starts, then bam cleveland game and tawn helps with the start, and the poor starts seemed to go away. it’s not coincidence, tawn is the guy who gets the offense rolling. starting dray over him would just lead to bad starts again. again, that would be unwise imo.

as for the bosh trade, the raptors would gain nothing. expriring contracts does nothing when your just trading away a major expiring contract. the only reason to trade for expiring contracts would be to sign someone big, or to resign bosh (which wouldn’t be possible anymore). i think the raptors are going to take their chances with bosh, because there is no guarantee he doesn’t resign with them, but i’m sure if they did trade him away, it would be for something in return, not just expiring contracts.

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:37 PM

@gabbo, does arenas not get the offense moving? look at when he leaves the game how stagnant the offense gets. the offense moves well imo with gilbert on the floor.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Wizards-fusion: I’m basing that trade on the fact that the Raptors would get our lottery pick and they would get more than $15 million in expiring contracts

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i know you’re messing around with the trades but did you also advocate that the Wiz is already going to the lottery?

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM

if the playoffs started tomorrow, yes the Wizards would be in the lottery

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM

wizfan4life, of course if trade were to go down, and the wiz actually did get bosh, you think we would still go to the lottery? i’m sure the raptors wouldn’t count on it

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM

lol – we’re almost 60 games out from playoffs …

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM

gray16: I’m talking about a pre-draft trade……because yeah that trade would absolutely never go down before that…..we would have to have Isiah Thomas as our GM for that to go down! lol

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

correction, the Raptors would

Comment from Jason C
Time December 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Gonna be at the game, Go Wizards! Just want to be a fan tonight(no debbie downer stuff).

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time December 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM

As bad/heartbreaking/painful as the Wiz have been, i think the Nets season ends tonight

Halftime score:

Raps 70 – Nets 33

This is not a joke.

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM

I wonder what it would take to get Devin Harris from them, since they won’t need him

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM

They were down 20 before they finished the national anthem(s)

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Ty Lawson is really getting minutes in Denver, and producing

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 18, 2009 at 10:02 PM

A lot of games on tonight…..good stuff

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 18, 2009 at 10:11 PM

@gray16 – I agree that gIl is the best we have at point guard. I just think that we would be better off without gIl having to handle the ball so much trying to get the offense going. I’d prefer gIl at the 2 – get the ball and try to score. Let someone else distribute.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

9:32 PM EST…Dave and Glenn checking in from Oakland and ready rock the BLOG on a Friday…The Warriors are riddled with injuries but they get up and down and can score…..Warriors are FIRST in fast break points…FIRST in points off turnovers… and FIRST in turnovers forced….Wizards could lose this game of they get sloppy.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM

okay gang here we go….show stars with the comments of flip saunders….snow and BLOG together

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:24 PM

starters are in……Warriors will start Chris Hunter a rookie from Michigan who has been playing in the D league over Vladimir Radmonovic who has been struggling

Comment from dlts20
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:37 PM

OMG, I just saw an article on the insider where Flip talked about bad shot selection. Its like every time I say something then he says it. Here’s what he said:

When asked if he should try to create more fast break opportunities in order for the Wizards to get easier shots, Saunders shook his head. “You do your running game, which is fine, but you still have to make good decisions,” he said. “We did our running game in LA then all of a sudden, Caron [Butler] takes a one-on-five jump shot and [Gilbert Arenas] takes a 32-foot three-point shot with 18 seconds on the shot clock over a guy on the pick and roll. Those are not playoff-type basketball shots. Ideally, what you try to do is not just win games but learn the process that is going to help you be successful down the road, where you want to be.”
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I also talk about our horrible shot selection but everyone knows that. The thing that shocked me was when Flip talked about that sequence in the Clips game. Thats also what I pointed to for the reason the game totally changed. After the game Gil & Caron talked about the sub patterns but it really changed when we were up 17 and then Caron took that dumb shot 1 on 5 and Gil launched an off balance 3 with 20 seconds left. They got the board on both, ran back and scored 2 quick baskets and got pumped.

They dont even realize what they were doing. They played great and unselfish to get up 17 and immediatly that started showing off and thought they could shoot up anything. Its just dumb. We need to be smarter

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Hey has anyone else been having problem with the http://www.washingtonwizards.com website? I try to log on the website but I get redirected to the TV companion thingy.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:39 PM

welcome …as flip just said frivolous shot slection at times

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:39 PM

gilfanatic, it always does that during games, but there should be a way to get around that

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM

brendan gotta work on that hook shot

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:42 PM

should have finished the drive for arenas instead of pass

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM

I don’t like the start so far.

And Stevenson shouldn’t be taking jump shots.

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM

the wizards don’t need to rush anything, that just plays into the warriors style

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM

doesn’t even look like butler is trying out there, especially on defense

warriors with the hot hand early

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM

curry is lighting up butler

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Gilbert Arenas is heating it up. I hope Gilbert Arenas can become agent zero this game.

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:50 PM

We’re letting them get whatever they want from jumpshots. I think we need to play them cloeser on D.

I like how Gilbert’s been playing… I have a feeling he’ll explode… he’s playing his former team.

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:50 PM

arenas is feeling it, unfortunately so is curry

Comment from scj190
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Arenas feeling it! 40 point game from that man tonight

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:54 PM

will somebody guard curry

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:55 PM

That he is. WE really are going to have to guard him this one…

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM

i notice caron is getting the ball around the top of the key a lot more this game, i think flip has changed his role

arenas is on fire

Comment from gray16
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:59 PM

flip has definitely changed butler’s routes and offensive role, he is looking a lot more comfortable

arenas not forcing anything, letting his offense come to him

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 18, 2009 at 11:59 PM

That was a great play by Gilbert. Passing it to Haywood for the stuff…

Nice steal and stuff by Arenas. Great play on that.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM

gilbert is just being agent zero/hibachi tonight lol

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:02 AM

hot start.. this time we need to finish the deal…

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:03 AM

please bench, when you come in, please keep this going, please

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:03 AM

Flip better not sit Gil for a long time tonight. Maybe 2min each half

Comment from Mr. Know it All
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Todays my birthday & all I want is a Wizard victory tonight !!!…………. so far so good

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:05 AM

happy birthday mr know it all, hopefully the wizards can get you just that

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:05 AM

how was that a travel? wasn’t that just a hop step/pro hop?

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:06 AM

I really want a win right now too.

WE have an 8 point lead right now. Hopefully we can play a bit conservatively with it and keep it.

We have to make those FTs.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:09 AM

if that had went in…

but now is the test, yet again. second half, bench has to step up. nick young, first guy off the bench has done well, let the rest follow.

boykins, foye, dray, all gotta step up

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Are we showcasing McGuire for a trade, or is AB injured? Why is McGuire in for Aj in the first quarter if AB is on the bench?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:13 AM

gabbo, mcguire was put in for defense i believe, the warriors are playing small ball so flip is trying to match it with small ball

notice how dray is now in at center

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:15 AM

if caron butler posted up like that more often…

i’d like to see more of that

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:16 AM

19 and 8 for arenas already…

Comment from argracia
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:16 AM

Hello everyone. Im loving the fast pace game they are playing right now! All we need to do is keep it up and focus more on the defensive end and not give up easy baskets. Let’s get em wizards!

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Okay. This was not the right time to take Gil out of the game. I have a bad feeling about this. We’re going to have to step up on D here… taking Gil out really will change how we play against them.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Why is “watch me dribble” in the game and Foye is on the bench?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:18 AM

boykins… don’t you mess this up, don’t you do it lol

his size again affecting his passing, slowing down the offense

it’s not his fault really, his size just unfortunately hurts his game

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:19 AM

lol @ “watch me dribble”

Comment from scj190
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:20 AM

just get gil back in and watch him do his thing

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:21 AM

antawn down again… hope he’s alright

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM

Good god no… not another injury. We don’t need another injury right now…

Is Antwan Jamison injury prone?

Just when you think things were bad for us… they get even worse.

I hope AJ is okay.

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:23 AM

mamma mia, not tawn again. how’s everyone doing?

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:23 AM

let’s hope tawn will be ok… at this point another injury doesn’t surprise me.

Comment from scj190
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:24 AM

what happened to twan?

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:24 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if a warlock put a curse on our team so we could never be healthy for more than a certain amount of time. I really hope that AJ isn’t injured… why does it always have to be us that is plagued by the injury problems?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM

defense is horrible right now

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:28 AM

i might just stop watching second quarters from now on, they never turn out well

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:29 AM

glad to see foye in the game. hope tawn is good. happy bday mr know it all! funny name.

dlts i saw that article too. flip sounds like he gets it. maybe old habits are hard to break.

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Yeah we’re not playing any d right now at all. We’ve been playing somewhat poorly since Gil was out… we need to get our swag back…

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:33 AM

what was randolph thinking lol

jamison cold tonight

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:33 AM

brendan? what are you doing?…

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:34 AM

good to see dmac get some time earlier. haywood needs to dunk that.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:35 AM

as bill walton would say, throw it down big man throw it down!

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:36 AM

there’s that “transition d” again. or not/

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:37 AM

wizards making the small ball pay

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:38 AM

again, notice how caron is getting the ball in much different spots this game.

flip is figuring it all out, have faith in flip, even i doubted him, but he’s definitely showing he knows his stuff

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:41 AM

what is with us taking a 3-point shot so quickly?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:44 AM

yet another horrible second quarter

antawn’s favoring the shoulder a lot, he’s obviously in pain, hope he feels better

bench got to step up, they can’t keep letting the starting lineup get these big leads and then just throw it all away

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:46 AM

everyone in the starting lineup with a postive +/- and nick young with a positive

everyone else, negative +/-, dray and boykins gotta step it up, especially dray

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Damn, Gil looks tired halfway through the 1st and looked completely ran down by the end of the 1st quarter. It sucks because he’s playing great but now it looks like he may just fade on out. I hope he can get some pep back at the half. The guys have to help him out though. He wouldve had probably 15ast if they wouldve made those open jumpers he gave them

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:49 AM

can we just play foye a little more in place of boykins and maybe dmac for stevenson? please

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:49 AM

Thats why he then lost the ball a couple of times and missed those other shots short.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:50 AM

SORRY GANG INTERNET HERE IS TERRIBLE I AM JUST TRYING TO POST FOR THE FIRTS TIME SINCE BEFORE THE GA,ME

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:51 AM

good luck dj…

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:52 AM

still neeed more pop from bench

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:52 AM

and need much better on d from wizards have to get out to shooters

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:53 AM

arenas with 21 pts and 8 assists already, i can’t wait till that shot is consistently back

Comment from scj190
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:55 AM

yeah we definatly need help off the bench

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:56 AM

glenn says can;t score and give up 59

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:57 AM

ft shooting is an abysmal 62%

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:59 AM

@gray16 – You get the blogger bump for blogging in the first half.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:00 AM

that is score 60 and give up 59 and because of injuries…they have a short bench…..need to pressure them wear them down on d

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:03 AM

dj and glenn, is yall’s net working out there now?

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:04 AM

what’s the status on tawn? i’m guessing not good b/c blatche is in

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:05 AM

no tawn, blatche is going to have to step up now

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:06 AM

@Tag Flip I gues that Twan is down. I don’t think he’s going to be coming back for the game. I hope it’s not too bad…

Gilbert needs to really heat it up tonight. I hope we see a 50 point game from him.

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:07 AM

yeah.. hopefully if he does have to miss time it’s nothing too substantial. but if we’re gonna snap this funk we need to play strong in this 2nd half.. can’t have any 4th quarter flops again.

and get deshawn out of there…

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:08 AM

too easy for magette

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:09 AM

where is the transition defense?!?!?! (insert avery johnson here)

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:09 AM

jamison getting treatment on left shoulder still questionable on return

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:09 AM

DSS OUT, SLICK IN. Wake up Coach. You need a shooter.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:12 AM

13 turnovers now for wizards

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:12 AM

assuming “slick’ is NY1, then he isn’t the answer. quite frankly, i’m afraid this “depth” we spoke of highly in the offseason just isn’t there. yes, we are missing mike miller, mike james, and javaris crittenton.. but are they really the “depth” we’re looking for?

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:13 AM

It looks like Antwan Jamison is back in it. I hope he’s okay.

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:13 AM

so good to see jamison back on the floor.. that’s huge for us..

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:13 AM

caron’s gotta keep doing that

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM

what a post move by gil, that was sick

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM

@Tag Flip, no doubt. I have a hypothesis that not all of the wizards players have truly recovered this year. That’s why they it looks like they’re hurt really bad when they get contact… it’s because they’re still physically weak.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM

wow, caron is answering the trade rumors, let’s keep these rumors flying lol

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM

oh my wow.. deshawn just needs to get off this team.. whatever that season was he had in 07-08 was a fluke.. he is just a joke. how do you shoot so atrociously from the ft line.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:17 AM

caron, if you don’t play better than this, i’m afraid we’re going to have to trade you lol step it up

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:17 AM

gilfanatic – you don’t think the reason jamison’s shoulders are really hurting is b/c of carrying this team so much last year?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM

throw it down big man, throw it down

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM

We need to watch those turnovers…

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:22 AM

magetti just knows how to yell and get to the line, that was very minimum contact

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:23 AM

arenas starting to heat up again

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:24 AM

I really like how Agent Zero is playing tonight. He has 29 points on the night. I hope his clutchiness will come through tonight…

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:26 AM

gilfanatic, let’s hope it won’t have to lol, let’s hope the bench steps up, but with dray playing disgusting i don’t know if that will happen

this is one game javale 1000% needs to play, who in the world on the warriors will out rebound him? or stop him from dunking?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:29 AM

just give it to haywood, he seems to have woken up

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:30 AM

antawn looks better, but it’s just not his night

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:30 AM

arenbas aboyt to hit 30

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:31 AM

haywood goe sout rel nice game

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:32 AM

nice pass by caron

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:34 AM

alright, again, time for the bench to step up

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:35 AM

play hard this quarter guys.. let’s not try and have yet another 4th quarter flop

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:37 AM

man, enough with the snow DJ!! i’m in virginia beach, VA, and there’s NO snow down here!!

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:37 AM

I hope that my hypothesis about the Wizards learning still is correct. Hopefully they will have learned from their mistakes the last few games… and we will be able to pull off a win this game. We need one really badly. That is a fact.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:39 AM

arenas again in the post, putting on a clinic

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:39 AM

another double-digit lead.. let’s hope this isn’t just another innovative way to lose in the making…

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:41 AM

caron has now become tough juice again

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:41 AM

58 combined points for arenas and butler..

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:42 AM

Are we looking at a 40 point night from Arenas? I hope so… Gilbert Arenas has been woind wonders for us tonight.

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:43 AM

some great hustle by the wizards

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:43 AM

caron… excuse me, tough juice with the hustle

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:45 AM

how in the world does maghetti get to the line so much

he should rename himself corey magettothelineallthetime

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:45 AM

antawn got fouled bad on that three, refs got to pick that up

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:46 AM

No. The Wizards are starting to play a little sloppy here. I think they’re just getting a little comfortable here. We have an 8 point lead. We shouldn’t blow it… we need to hold on to it here. Come on… I don’t want this to be on the list of tragic games that we should have won.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:48 AM

i think it’s fatigue now, arenas and butler have played the entire second half so far

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:52 AM

alright, get nick out there, just don’t bring in deshawn

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:53 AM

and let the inventions begin… here we are looking at another new way to lose

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:53 AM

OMG well I hope the fatgiue doesn’t extend our winning losing streak.

We really need a win here and I don’t want to give it up to a 4th quarter collapse.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:54 AM

keep going inside please, it’s never failing

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:55 AM

at times arenas trying to do too much

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:56 AM

and the wizards got a game tommorow… vs the suns…

talk about not getting much of a break

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 1:59 AM

jamison’s shot selection has got to improve

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:02 AM

blatche has got to be stronger inside, that soft stuff is just not gonna cut it

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:02 AM

need to keep playing strong.. we’ve sustained so far in the 4th.. i like the lineup we have, we need to stick to it and stay the course.

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:02 AM

Man… this is probably the most important part of the game right here… we need all the baskets we need right now. I’m hoping for a Wizards win. We deserve it. This is the first time in the last few stretches of games where I can say we’ve deserved to win. Before this we’ve been inventing new ways to lose… hopefully we can invent new ways to win.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:03 AM

the wizards need haywood back in there, he was just dominating before he sat down

blatche is just horrible right now

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:06 AM

there we go, haywood in, blatche out

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:07 AM

let’s go agent zero!!!

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:08 AM

CB 3!!! DC STAND UP!!!!

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:08 AM

let’s go tough juice!!! lol

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM

69 combined points for gilbert and caron

Comment from scj190
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:10 AM

tough juice and agent zero, take a bow!

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:11 AM

i’d love to see arenas hit 50, foul golden state foul lol

Comment from DJ-WizardsRadio
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:12 AM

don’t forget post game in the snow 1 800 636 1067

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:12 AM

did you see caron hit that shot, that man’s feeling it lol

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:13 AM

gray16, wishful thinking.. would you rather have arenas score 50 and lose or have us win?

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:15 AM

tagflip, the game was over lol, 50 would’ve just been icing on the cake, but still a great nigt

finally a win guys, seemed like so long

Comment from Gilfanatic
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:15 AM

I’m glad we got a win this game. We needed Agent 0′s performance really badly. I think it’s safe to say that he’s back. That was a phenomenal performance by agent 0… I’m glad to see him play to the best of his ability.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:16 AM

Okay a win is a win even against the no defense, no size Warriors. The real positive is that gIl looks like he is working his way back to GIL.

Comment from lanka124
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Wow Twan tried to give it away , jacking up 3′s. I was wondering when Flip was going to stop running the screen with Twan

Comment from TAG FLIP
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:18 AM

lol okay true, well let me rephrase.. 50 and arenas maybe getting hurt? or just a win?

all in all, a solid win. hopefully tawn’s shoulder injury won’t be that bad, and he’ll be good to go against phoenix tomorrow night. i’m liking the way arenas’ play the last 2 games have been. however, i don’t think it means that the old Agent Zero is back.. he’s still trying to return mentally. but 39 ppg in the last 2, i like what i’m seeing.

Comment from Gotabigboyoffense
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:21 AM

@gray16 – Is there more than one person blogging using the gray16 ID? Sometimes I think that you know what you are talking about and sometimes I wonder if you are even watching the same game.

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:23 AM

lol, why you say that gabbo

what did i say wrong, i’m sure i did say some stuff in the heat of the moment

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:25 AM

Told you he’s always like half MJ half Magic Johnson against GS and he’s not too far from that against the Suns either so he might go off again if he’s not too tired

Comment from sayee316
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:25 AM

Go Wizards!!! I met the whole team at a bowling alley and have a picture with Gilbert Arenas…Happy for them

Comment from gray16
Time December 19, 2009 at 2:26 AM

fatigue is my biggest worry tommorow, gilbert, caron, and pretty much tawn played the entire second half

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM

a win is a win….Congrats

Comment from HardCoreFan
Time December 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Finally – a win! You guys said Arenas would go off. I really was happy to see him with a double-double (especially the assists). I want to see them do it again tonight.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I rewatched the game and I like what Im seeing from Gil but Im still sad. He’s right arm likes great, his left arm looks great, his right leg looks great, but his left leg looks still dead and it probably wont ever come 100% back. Maybe not even 90%. I remember I use to be happy that if he had to hurt his knee, Im glad its the left because all righties want to keep there right side strong. Then you watch the games and realize that 90% of the time as a righty, you are going to leap & explode off your left leg, not the right.

Thats Gil’s problem right now. Even last night he made a ton of great shots in the lane but he shot every single one of them from ground level. I still have his 54 & 60pt games on tape and he was never MJ or Wade but Gil use to explode to the rim and finish high. Now he lets the ball go from the floor basically and thats always going to suck. He could get better as the season goes on and most guys feel alot better in there 2nd year back but like I said, he always feels an extra boost against GS so if he couldnt get off the ground against them then he probably wont get off the ground against anyone.

Thats the only thing that saddens me. Still, we all saw an old MJ do well even without being able to jump. Gil is like that. He still has mad handles and knows how to position his body. He also still has unlimited range and good vision so he will produce numbers. The question is wether he’s good enough to throw up monster games against the big 3 or 4 in the East because the old Gil could. IDK if this guy can consistently without that lift and that burst at times but he’s getting there.

The good thing is that just like GS, the other team he kills on the road is the Suns. He doesnt kill them like GS but he still lights them up. Im worried because he looked tired last night and its a back to back but I could see him going for 40 again tonight against Nash and his boy Richardson. Who is going to stop him in the lane? Frye? Yeah right

Comment from ChenierFan
Time December 19, 2009 at 11:24 AM

That was a spectacular game from Gil last night and perhaps Caron’s best game of the season – the baseline jumper was the “dagger” shot.

Other thoughts…
- I don’t get all these shoulder injuries. It looks like Antawn has problems with both shoulders and of course Mike had shoulder troubles. I suspect that the trainers are not treating these problems well. I remember a few years ago when Gil had a similar shoulder problem after running into the pick set my that Bucks player (Mason?) that he had to see an outside specialist who needed to pop it into place because the team trainers and medical staff couldn’t help. This sounds too familiar.

Now that the Wiz got the monkey off their back, it should be all downhill from here. They say the 8th win is the hardest (or something like that)

Comment from dcbutler357
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM

My concern is that they played practically the whole game and we haven’t figured out the role (s) of our bench players. Who wants to go through the whole season of them playing a ton of minutes and then they are injured reserve, IF we make the playoffs!!!

I don’t even see how I keep seeing that anyone is saying that the “bench players” need to step up, when they aren’t even in the game. WHO is really coaching this team? I see the same agenda as three years ago. Maybe Ernie should come coach this mess.

YES i am glad for a win, but looking at how many minutes were played and WHO we were playing, this is not “contender” basketball.

Comment from dmac
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:22 PM

It was great to get that gorilla of a losing streak off our back. I look to see more positive Hibachi nights going forward. A good test will be against Phoenix. Glaf to see CB have a breakout game.
Inspite of the all the trade rumors I personally don’t like mid season trades. The season is till young and feel we all want the Wiz to turn this thing around. Only time will tell.
dlts looks like you are the prophet of the night for predicting 40 and 13 from Gil who went 45 and 13.

Wizards_Fusion Bayless is a pass first PG.

I would not be wishing on Derrick Favors if AB developed a mean streak and went out and gave us 18 and 10 as a starter with AJ the 6th man.

Comment from dlts20
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM

well the bench will look alot better when Miller gets back. I think he will come off the bench

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time December 19, 2009 at 12:44 PM

it was a great game, but I still don’t approve of Randy Foye not getting any minutes, while Deshawn Stevenson starts????? you can almost be certain that Foye will not re-sign with the team in the summer if this continues

Comment from gbkdc
Time December 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM

i agree w4life, foye needs way more minutes.