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What Is Your Top Play of the 2008-09 Season?

SportzWiz checking in…Training Camp is just one month away and I am getting extremely excited for the season. Waking up and seeing the video below this morning has done nothing but get me more fired up for camp. What are your thoughts on the top 10? Any plays that come to mind that are missing or plays that you think should be higher or lower?

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Comment from aznzero
Time August 31, 2009 at 10:40 AM

about half of these plays are javale!

Comment from SportzWiz
Time August 31, 2009 at 11:05 AM

depends on how you look at it, I think the nick pass on the dribble is nick’s highlight not javale’s same with the spin move by crittenton, thats more him than javale. He just finishes it.

Comment from AUNDRA
Time August 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I have to go with the All-Star Caron Butler aka Tough Juice because he has finally figured out the 5 seconds to go shot clock like Agent Zero. The cross over with a simultaneous step back jumper is what high school through pros will try to perfect but can’t! This one move is one of the greatest in his unlimited treasure troves of moves in his scoring box.
Simply Unstoppable!

Comment from GlingGling
Time August 31, 2009 at 5:52 PM

AUNDRA, I agree about Caron. He perfected that move. I noticed it looked exactly the same in both plays.

I love how Jamison’s dunk was #2. If it was anyone else it probably wouldn’t have made the list.

Arenas’ behind the back was pretty beast, and the fact that he played two games and was in the top 5 speaks immensely about how important he is going to be.

Comment from tyrone20000
Time August 31, 2009 at 8:10 PM

My top play was Blatche dunking over Rasheed Wallace. Wallace assumed Blatche would try one of his weak lay up. SURPRISE! That is what frustrate me about Blatche. Just what type of game can he play consistently? Still can’t trust the guy…

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time August 31, 2009 at 9:28 PM

AJs dunk was on the cavs and you dont see AJ dunk that much so you add that in the play i could see a top five not so much a 2 tho

Comment from GlingGling
Time August 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Rubio staying in Spain. For the moment Mr. Grunfeld looks like pretty smart guy (as Michael Lee said on Wizards Insider). Who would your rather have, Mike Miller and Randy Foye now or Ricky Rubio in two years?

Comment from datonypony
Time September 1, 2009 at 12:24 AM

GlingGling I would never want RUbio :D

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 1, 2009 at 1:13 AM

Rubio is another Juan Carlos Navarro. Don’t walk away… Run lol.

I really liked their choices for top 10. It was nice of them to start things out by showing us those wonderful JaVale plays. I hope he gets better, but, he excites me just as he is. Jamison got his “props” :) Very nice to see! Caron DOES have “that” move perfected. At the end of a game when Gilbert is triple teamed… Hey Caron :) Critter definately has moves and HUGE potential. We are going to be a very exciting team come October.

Comment from GlingGling
Time September 1, 2009 at 1:18 AM

datonpony, as long as Gil is here I feel the same way (and I don’t want Gil to leave). I’m trying to stick up for Ernie, he get’s a lot of crap.

I think in general GMs get the short end of the stick far too often. Take Rubio for example, the kid had to get drafted but he was gonna be a problem to any team that took him. And no matter what whoever took him was going to end up looking like a donkey, his buyout was just too ridiculous. I personally think David Kahn knew what a mess this situation was gonna be and that’s why he took Flynn and Rubio. He’s got Flynn to develop now and if he works out, great! he’s got a starting PG and they can trade Rubio for another piece to their puzzle. If Flynn doesn’t work out then they can give Rubio a shot. Long term, Kahn probably made the best of this situation. He got blasted for drafting two PGs. Now he’s probably gonna get blasted for not getting Rubio into the NBA.

My point, GMs are always the bad guy when things don’t go the right way.

Comment from GlingGling
Time September 1, 2009 at 1:22 AM

Grifon, you’re right. Maybe Ernie learned a lesson from that.

Comment from datonypony
Time September 1, 2009 at 4:05 AM

Yeah I agree with you, but simply he was too risky imo for a number 5 pick anyway. I was happy that we got miller and foye but I would have been more happy if we managed to keep a big and gave them deshawn or something.

Comment from datonypony
Time September 1, 2009 at 4:06 AM

But now we have oberto so who cares haha. I can’t wait for next season!

Comment from aznzero
Time September 1, 2009 at 7:05 AM

sportwiz,
thats true. i gotta give credit to nick the kid and critt for the passes. but finishing is important or else the highlight would’ve never been on the list.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 1, 2009 at 7:46 AM

As to the trade, obviously *we don’t know* who got the best of the deal — but most likely neither team did. Each team got what it wanted. We’re trying to win now; Kahn is rebuilding his team.

Or maybe *neither team* will have gotten what it wanted? If we *don’t* “win now” — however you define that — then maybe we didn’t get what we wanted out of the trade. If Kahn can’t rebuild Minnesota, then maybe he didn’t get what he wanted.

I have the feeling that you guys think what GMs do is try to screw each other. See who can get over on the other guy. Think again. I doubt the thought ever enters a GM’s mind.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 1, 2009 at 7:50 AM

Rubio is like Navarro? What… like they’re both Spanish?

Navarro is an undersized shooting guard; Rubio is a 6’5″ 18 year old point guard phenom. They are not alike in any way.

Comment from maggicman11
Time September 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM

tom, im a big rubio fan but probably because i’ve only seen him play in international competition. the more i have studied his game the more i notice how slow he plays on offense unless about to make a highlight fastbreak play. other than that he looks very slow in a half court offense and i dont think that would transition well into the nba. the point guards here are very quick and strong. it probably is the best thing to let his frail 18 year body develop for two more years so he doesnt get man handled by bigger stronger and quicker guards in the nba. that way fans wont get fed up with him after two years and want him to be traded when he hasnt even hit his peak yet. unlike most international players who make the jump from their country to the nba, rubio is only 18 so in two years he’ll only be 20. (im such a math wiz) he’ll be even better, have a better bball IQ and be stronger than he is now. i think minnesota should be very excited about that.

Comment from Reuben
Time September 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I just read a post on yahoo’s NBA blo Ball Dont Lie. They listed the worst ten jerseys of the decade. The Wizards showed twice in the list with the regular jerseys and the gold unis. I thinks its time for a change

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Rubio and Navarro are both Spanish LOL. That plus both were under large contracts when drafted with little chance either would be playing in the NBA any time soon after drafted. What difference does it matter how tall and what position???? LOL.

Comment from gray16
Time September 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM

reuben, i actually know a lot of people who love the wizards gold jerseys who aren’t even wizards fans.

personally i like the black and gold jerseys, and wish they would change the colors to that, with white, gold, and black as the home colors. (and a black, with white and gold trim alternate)

but that’s just my opinion.

Comment from neal
Time September 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Rubio is like Navarro in that both are stars in Europe but (at least for now) wouldn’t even start in the NBA. We’ll see if Rubio develops a consistent shot, as well as more strength in the next couple of years. He sure didn’t make sense to me in the draft position he was taken this year.

Comment from Babakism
Time September 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Navaro played well the one year he was here and probobly would be a starter if he stayed but he realized he would make more money over there plus he would be with his family and not thousands of miles from the lifestyle he enjoys.

So I what about mike james and deshawn or crit for stephen jackson??? lol

they might not be looking for much in return but cap space.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time September 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Those are some nice plays from last season. Remember when AI made his trademark crossover dribble and got AD to fall down twice and the Philly crowd went nuts and the NBA highlight people couldn’t get enough of it and thus shoved that 6 seconds into EVERY SINGLE NBA DVD marketed since 2006?

Well, I think Nick’s dribble drill is equally nice to watch and Gerald Wallace got played. Nick could have been selfish and tried to score, but he gave it up to an open McGee and that made the play even better.

I wonder why McGee’s dunk and “presidential salute” didn’t make the Top 10 highlights.

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For the last couple of weeks, SportzWiz found a bunch of links suggesting the Wizards are going to be a good and dangerous team – with predictions in the mid-40s range for wins.

However, the ESPN crew does not feel the same and they pitted Washington 8th (but with records tied with Toronto).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=OffseasonPredictions09-EastStandings

39 wins is certainly low for an improved Eastern Conference as a whole. I believe all 8 playoff teams in the East this season will have a .500 or above record.

Since the ESPN predictions are not strictly a Hollinger opinion, I am trying to figure out how Miami is still highly ranked and why Philly and Atlanta haven’t dropped.

Comment from GlingGling
Time September 1, 2009 at 4:35 PM

wizards_fusion, Dwane Wade in his current iteration is a phenom. As long as he plays as well as he plays, any team he is on will be ranked higher than logic suggests. He is intangible.

The Hawks have only gotten better by picking up Jamal Crawford and Joe Smith. There is no reason to believe they lose any more games than they did last season.

They obviously have no faith in the Wiz though. Although last to 8th is still a big jump.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 1, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I don’t think the Hawks have gotten better — especially not by adding Jamal Crawford.

The Heat have a *great* player, some role players, and a lot of problems. Hard to predict.

Three teams in the East are definitely better than we are — Cleveland, Boston and Orlando. Beyond that it’s up for grabs.

Comment from GlingGling
Time September 1, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Tom, it depends on if Crawford starts. As a starter, he isn’t very efficient. Considering he is on the down turn of his career I could see him coming off the bench at 25mpg. In that role I think he’d be a decent backup option. Perhaps your are right about the Hawks. Perhaps I should have phrased it, they haven’t gotten any worse.

Comment from gray16
Time September 1, 2009 at 9:40 PM

bspn has never been a very good source imo. their logic just never made much sense to me. and if your name is lebron, kobe, or wade you and your team are going to get plenty of credit from them.

heat: made no moves this season, other than losing moon and aquiring q rich, like i said no moves. the rest of the east has gotten better. i don’t see the heat as a playoff team at this point. tbh, the heat will be lucky if dwayne is healthy much of the season. i can’t remember the last time big minutes haven’t taken him out of the season. even last season he couldn’t hold up.

bulls: losing their best scorer and they are still number 6 in the east? i guess luol deng has been looking spectacular this offseason. this is another team i don’t see making the playoffs.

hawks: now the hawks, i think will definitely make the playoffs. the got no worse, not much better, but were pretty good last season.

sixers: if elton brand comes back strong, then the team has a chance. but iguodala is pretty overrated imo, and has yet to prove he can play as a back up guy. of course, he was playing backup behind iverson, and that will do anything but help your production.

imo the final standings will be:
cavs
celtics
magic
wizards
hawks
raptors
pistons
bobcats (if the get iverson), if not, heat

Comment from neal
Time September 1, 2009 at 9:47 PM

If Arenas comes back 100% and Saunders gets the guys to gel we will be about as good as the Celtics and Magic. 49 WINS

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 1:54 AM

Reuben/Gray… I’ve also heard the Gold uniforms are history. That must mean (not only do we love our ugly “teal” but…) we must be bringing out a new uniform (or two) this year. I’m looking forward to it’s unveiling.

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 1:57 AM

I like the Zephyrs… but can the teal for the “old” red white and blue ones.

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 2:01 AM

Neal… Arenas..Saunders… Miller/Foye.. I’m pumped up too. This could really be a good year for us. Tom will, no doubt, keep us grounded :)

Comment from millie mill
Time September 2, 2009 at 7:16 AM

100% right Tom will keep us grounded. He will knock the happiness right out of you.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 7:44 AM

Is that how I come across? Uh-oh.

My analysis is just about the same as Brendan’s. :)

I think we are a very good team — but not that we’re as good as Orlando or Boston… although Boston might not be as good as I’m thinking. Guys do get old eventually….

Comment from gray16
Time September 2, 2009 at 8:16 AM

boston is a big question mark for me. rasheed wallace is OLDDDD, and hasn’t had a good season in a while. kevin garnett is coming off of two injured seasons like gil, but he doesn’t have a 27 year old body, he has a 30+ year old body, will he hold up. ray allen never seems to get hurt, because he style of play doesn’t require much contact. pierce seems like he can hold up, and will probably be the best offensiver player out of the four. rondo, is overrated.

then there’s the magic. who i feel are also overrated. like one of those articles said, i think they overchieved last season. (kind of like the the cavs from 07) now they have a completely different team, and who knows how they will gel. they are just as big a question mark as the celtics or wizards imo.

the cavs, i feel will get top spot. the biggest question mark here is, will the ego’s of lebron and shaq collide. lebron’s ego has blown up these past couple of years, and shaq’s blew up when he did his first dunk. how will they work with eachother? this season will tell.

the wizards. in the back of my head i remember the 06-07 season when the wizards were the best team in the east, until injuries hit. (jamison, then arenas, then butler) i remember how good that team was, and how much more talent, and how much better of a coach the team has now. but the east hasn’t gotten any weaker. but at the same time i remember the wizards going 3-1 against the celtics two seasons ago. i remember the wizards beating the cavs at the end of last season.

and my optimistic approach is to put the wizards around the 2-3 spot in the east. but at the same time, i like to put an easily attainable goal, and be happy if the wizards go past it. i think the wizards can win 50 games this season. but they are a question mark like the rest, so i’ll let them prove themselves.

but i see a lot of people putting the wizards at the eighth spot. if that happens, i’m pretty sure the wizards will be dissapointed to say the least.

Comment from neal
Time September 2, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Good to see you’re still with us millie. I was beginning to wonder.

Comment from wizards_fusion
Time September 2, 2009 at 9:42 AM

@ GR:

I was at the NBA Store in NYC last weekend and I can tell you that the alternate gold unis are NOT out of commission. I am talking about both the jersey and matching gold/black shorts. They are still being sold at retail prices.

The reason I said what I said is because the NBA Store keeps up with the latest items, in terms of jerseys. I was shocked to see a Flynn and Turkoglu authentics with their new teams, so I know they don’t stock things that are not current.

@ GG:

Sure, Wade is awesome but judging by his pro career, he has not been able to play all 82 games in a season. He came close last year and he proved a lot of doubters wrong that his knees are fine.

But, this is not all about Wade. Flash even admits that he doesn’twant to stay in Miami if they got no chance to contend for a championship. And with the current roster of Joel Anthony (got muscles but little game), Beasley (got game but a lot of baggage), Chalmers (maturity issues), Cook (only a 3pt guy), Diawara (defensive guy with limited offensive game), Haslam (2nd best player on team), Head (new guy), James Jones (only a 3pt guy), Magloire (running on empty), Jermaine O’Neal (supposedly washed up with bad knees and bad back), Quinn (inconsistent), Q-rich (tradebait), and Wright (the Heat’s version of Blatche), I am not seeing how this group can get the 5th seed in the East even if Wade repeats his MVP-like performance of last season.

@ 8th spot in East

I think everyone wants Wiz-Cavs Round 1 playoffs, Part 4. I don’t have any other explanation on why the Wiz would be ranked that low if everything goes according to plan.

If there is a year where another 8th-seed can give the 1-seed trouble, it could very well be Washington over Cleveland. Imagine the shockwaves the scenario would cause if it happens in April 2010. This would be bigger than Knicks over Heat and Warriors over Mavs.

Comment from millie mill
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Personally I rank the Wizards in the 2 or 3 spot along with gray16. At worst case #4.

The reason I rank the Wizards so high.

Reason #1 Orlando doesn’t really know what they lose in letting Hedo Turkoglu go.

Turkoglu really ran the offence. The Starting line in Orlando will be much different than last season
PG: Nelson, SG: Carter, SF: Lewis, PF: Bass, C: Howard
This year they will only have two real three point shooting threats to spread the floor. Three point shooting is what got them as far as they went last year.

Reason # 2 Too many stars not enough back-ups.

Who is going to fill the shoes of these players if one goes down for ten games or more?

Cavs: James, O’Neal (age 37), Ilgauskas (age 34)
Orlando: Carter, Lewis, Howard
Boston: Allen (age 34), Peirce, Garnett, Wallace (age 34)
As tight of a race the East is going to be next season I think Washington is the only team that have back-ups for their back-ups. Lewis is starting the season on a ten game suspension, which will hurt them more than they know right now.

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Thanks Wiz Fusion. I thought I had read where the gold uniforms were going away. If they aren’t I hope they use them a lot more often than the “primary” uniforms. Who approved that ugly uniform in the first place? lol

I understand that Boston has decided to issue canes and orthopedic arch supports as a uniform enhancements this year :)

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM

gray and millie — oh, please about Orlando. They were a terrific team, and they *got better* this off season. Give me Carter in place of Turkoglu any day. And Ryan Anderson over Courtney Lee too.

On the other hand, despite losing in the conference finals, Cleveland was the better team (the less good team *can win* a 7 game series; it’s not even all that unlikely). And they’ve added to their interior and to their outside shooting (w/ Parker).

You may be right about Boston, however (though not that Rondo is overrated). Rasheed is a question mark; he could be a huge factor, he could be a huge distraction. And, yes, they are old. They also seem to have a high opinion of Glen Davis, who is not a very good player. One injury to a key guy, and they could tumble.

Comment from millie mill
Time September 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Tom, you really think Orlando got better? I think they only won as many games as they did last year because they had four shooters on the floor at the same time and of course the best rebounder/shot blocker in the game. Lewis playing the PF made other PF play out of position. Howard or Bass’s rebounds won’t be as high next year, because they both played with PF/C that played away from the basket. Now it’s going too crowed under the basket in Orlando.

Cleveland almost got sweeped by Orlando. Orlando won 4 games to 2, and one game Cleveland won was a buzzer beater lucky shot by Lebron. Orlando made 62 3-pointers, tying the NBA record for most made 3-pointers in a six-game series.

Comment from jmpalomo
Time September 2, 2009 at 1:18 PM

If you took Lebron off the Cleveland Roster you would have a team that will not make the playoffs. Lebron is the Cavaliers.
Losing Turkoglu was devastating for the Magic. The offense went through him. Somehow that ball was always passed to Turkoglu and then he decided what he wanted to do with it. Do you think 900 year old Vince Carter is going to want to play that way? Vince is going to show the Magic what it feels like to not get the ball. Haha.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time September 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM

well the numbers guys on here are going green this year and are taking the banwagon or so it would seem i dont think we are the best team ever but a old boston team an a old shaq in cavs land or missing good players in O Town has got me thinking top of the east..

Comment from Rick
Time September 2, 2009 at 2:40 PM

jmpalomo I agree, turkoglu was key to the magic’s success last year. i also think losing courtney lee will hurt them, he was their best wing defender and was knocking down threes throughout the playoffs. vince carter is very good, and a better individual talent than turkoglu, but i don’t think it’s a coincidence that his teams have never been very good. he has a score first mentality and can’t have dwight clogging up his driving lanes. i’d have to say that orlando got worse this summer, but it remains to see what kind of team chemistry they can develop as the season progresses.

speaking of chemistry, i think that will be a problem for the wiz as well. with so many guys struggling to get playing time i wonder what the overall mood will be like.

Comment from jmpalomo
Time September 2, 2009 at 2:55 PM

What is the one missing link for the Wizards:
No True Power Forward
That is it. We have everything else. 3 All Stars plus alot of really good players. We even have alot of young up and coming players that have not reached their potential. We even have insurance if Gilbert gets hurt again (Foye/Miller). We have two players who are going to be really hungry to perform because they are free agents at the end of the year (Haywood/Miller). Plus we have a proven Coach who knows how to win.
To me, the sky is the limit on this team.

Comment from jmpalomo
Time September 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM

P.S.
The Pistons STINK! I heard their coach say that this year they are going to GRIND it out. (Translation: walk the ball up, throw it inside, make a move or dish it back out for a jump shot. BORING)
I hate the pistons. I almost fell asleep two years ago at a wiz/pistons game.

Comment from gray16
Time September 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM

about the magic, two things are going to hurt them:

1) rashad’s ten game suspesion. ten games is a lot without one of your main stars. it’s almost like magic losing turk and rashad and getting VC, for ten games. i don’t see them winning more than 5 games during that stretch, and 5 games gone quickly can turn bad.

2) VC’s inconsistency. who knows when he is going to show up and when he’s not. if he doesn’t show up, who’s going to take his place? lee could’ve done something like that, but nobody left is going to do that, unless barnes has a career night.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM

jmpalomo — you are oh so right about the Pistons. They are an awful team.

But… I don’t know what you guys are smoking before you write about Orlando! :) Just trying to make yourselves feel good or something?

The Magic are not our team, so there’s little point in spending much time on them. They are however a really good team! Not because Rashard plays PF and forces someone out of position, however; they are much better when he is at the 3.

Anyway… who cares!! Lets concentrate on our own guys.

Comment from jmpalomo
Time September 2, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Thanks Tom. You are right.
What is going on with Deshawn?
Trading? Staying? Playing?

Comment from AUNDRA
Time September 2, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Gray 16
IMO
Wizards will be #1
Orlando will be #2
Boston will be #3
Miami will be #4
Heres the big story line theres trouble in Cavs Land.Why the Big Shaq Experiment doesn’t work because of the Me Syndrome which is perpetrated by Shaq himself wanting the ball down low all the time! However even bigger news the Chosen One himself gets a high ankle sprain/bruise on a inside driving play. Thus he misses two weeks and returns but not the old Mr. everything because the injury never really heels! Thus the pecking order is up for grabs which the Wizards see and take full advantage of!!!The Orlando experiment with Old Vince Carter doesn’t quite work out so a trade might be possible! Boston Big Ticket has recurring leg injurys because he has wear and tear on him!Miamis D-Wade is all-star material but with him doing it all will take a toll on the body and injurys will prevail once again! Wizards take the Eastern Conference by storm and then were off to the races for the championship!

Comment from gray16
Time September 2, 2009 at 5:21 PM

i wish aundra.

i would be surprised if the wizards got the top spot. but i do think they have the potential to do it. but having the potential to reach something and working hard enough to actually get there are too very different things.

championship. i don’t think they have the potential at this point. if the wizards somehow came out with some amazing defense (out of nowhere) then they could do it, but i really don’t see that happening. i do hope that flip focuses on defense as well as offense, because this team has been under one of the poorest defensive systems in the league for a while. they need a refresher course on d.

lebron james getting hurt. this man seems to be the real superman, he just doesn’t seem to get hurt. the odds are severly against him getting hurt. but i can see the ego’s of shaq and lebron clashing, especially during playoff time, which could make them slip up, and allow a team to upset them.

still i think 2-3 if this team stays healthy, and plays to their ability, but 4th for sure.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM

*Nothing* is “for sure” — that’s why we play the games!

Comment from neal
Time September 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I don’t see Shaq conflicting with James. At 37 do you think he will still want the ball all the time? I think he just wants to play for the championship. Maybe I’m naive.

Where would we have ended up wit 49 wins last year?

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM

You’re not naive, neal — we’re just getting a glut of magical thinking.

Comment from gray16
Time September 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM

egos can clash off the court just as much off the court as on the court. personally i don’t think the cavs will have a problem, but if there will be a problem, i think that will be it.

tm always has to be devils advocate. like someone said before he balances us out. but something tells me he thinks the wiz will be a top team in the east (at least fourth spot) as well, just doesn’t want to get his hopes up for nothing. but with what’s happened these past few seasons i definitely can’t blame him.

Comment from jeffmalone1990
Time September 2, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Ok I will go on record and say that the Wizards will win 50 games this year!

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Oh, anyone can say that, man — you gotta tell me *which 50*, ok? :)

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM

gray16 — well, you sure figured me out in a hurry!!! :)

Yes, I think we will be #4 in the East — assuming (gulp) no major injuries.

Comment from neal
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:04 PM

If we had won 49 last year where would we have placed in the east?

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Neal last season 3rd place Orlando had a record of 59/23 and 4th place Atlanta had a record of 47/35…. with a 49 win season we would have placed 4th.

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Ok… no more talk about injuries. Let’s talk about anything else. Talking about injuries is like talking about rain on race day. Talk about and it will happen. I’m not too superstitious :)

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Gray… I think that is record time for figuring out Tom Mandel :!: some are still trying LOL.

Comment from GrifonRacing
Time September 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM

our 50…. #2… #4 and #5 (great back to back for us)…#7…. of forget it :)

Comment from gray16
Time September 3, 2009 at 12:00 AM

tbh, i’ll tell you what i want to see, some may agree, some others may not like it:

wizards win 45-50 games, and get fourth spot in the east.

the cavaliers win 60+ games and get the first spot in the east.

the hawks win 40-47 games and get the fifth spot in the east.

the wizards face hawks, beat them :) , and then what happens; rematch of cavs vs wizards, but this time in the second round. and i think the wizards could actually beat them in a seven game series. but either way it would be an entertaining series to say the least.

Comment from datonypony
Time September 3, 2009 at 12:10 AM

3-0 against cavaliers any day.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time September 3, 2009 at 7:48 AM

We’re not as good a team as the Cavs, but yes a less good team can beat the better team in a 7 game series — it happens often (happened to Cleveland last year).

Randomness is far more powerful than people think.

Comment from datonypony
Time September 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Hey Tom, cleveland may be a better than magic, however, when the two teams face, if you deduct you will find that magic is a very good team against cleveland. I.e. 3 pointers against a very inside defence oriented team, an excellent center who can stop lebron in his tracks on a drive. There are more things as well.

Comment from dmac
Time September 5, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I went with Tough Juice game winning jumpers in a season where victories were hard to come by.

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