Comments on: Blatche Officially Changes Number From 32 to 7 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/ The Official Blog of the NBA's Washington Wizards Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:54:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: getabigboyoffense http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78605 getabigboyoffense Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:56:08 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78605 Tom M. - "EFF is a notoriously inaccurate measure." Tom, I can't argue that statement because I don't know enough about it, but don't you think that NBA.com would have the sense to scrap it's system in favor of a more accurate system if it's system is so bad? Tom M. – “EFF is a notoriously inaccurate measure.”
Tom, I can’t argue that statement because I don’t know enough about it, but don’t you think that NBA.com would have the sense to scrap it’s system in favor of a more accurate system if it’s system is so bad?

]]> By: ChenierFan http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78603 ChenierFan Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:16:32 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78603 It sounds like Andray is ready to bring it this year. I often wrote that the only thing he needs is confidence and that's what Flip will give him. I look into my crystal ball and see 13.5/8.2/1.5/1.5/49%/75% in 29 mins/game this year for AB Number 7 will take some getting used to. Nick may be the starting 2-guard this year. If he is truly learning how to use picks and get his shots in the flow of the game and not just 1 on 1, then he'll shoot over 50% this year. It sounds like Andray is ready to bring it this year. I often wrote that the only thing he needs is confidence and that’s what Flip will give him. I look into my crystal ball and see 13.5/8.2/1.5/1.5/49%/75% in 29 mins/game this year for AB

Number 7 will take some getting used to.

Nick may be the starting 2-guard this year. If he is truly learning how to use picks and get his shots in the flow of the game and not just 1 on 1, then he’ll shoot over 50% this year.

]]> By: Tom Mandel http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78600 Tom Mandel Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:25 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78600 Why is the Wins Produce metric the best, in my opinion. One very simple reason: If you add up all the "Wins Produced" by all the players on a team, you will correlate to the *actual team wins* by about 95%. No other metric can do this. Why is the Wins Produce metric the best, in my opinion. One very simple reason:

If you add up all the “Wins Produced” by all the players on a team, you will correlate to the *actual team wins* by about 95%. No other metric can do this.

]]> By: Tom Mandel http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78599 Tom Mandel Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:09:36 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78599 Getabig -- EFF is a notoriously inaccurate measure. Most teams have a dedicated "stats" guy who uses some home brew analysis system or picks up on one he finds on the Web: whether that is WP (the one I like best), or Win Shares, or John Hollinger's PER. You seem like a thinking man -- you might order The Wages of Wins, by Dave Berri (and some other sports economists), which is where the Wins Produced methodology is discussed. It's sort of the Freakonomics of sports (mostly NBA, w/ some NFL as well). Wins Produced is not for such as you and me to calculate directly, because it requires some stat software that can do regressions. But there is an approximation, called Win Score, which can be calculated directly. You can even convert it into Wins Produced pretty accurately using some approximations Dave provides. One of the things you have to do is adjust for position. Obviously, you can't put 5 centers or 5 guards on the floor, and excellence in a guard will imply different things than excellence in a center. To calculate Win Score: Add Points + Rebounds + Steals + ½*Assists + ½*Blocked Shots. Then subtract Field Goal Attempts, Turnovers, ½*Free Throw Attempts, and ½*Personal Fouls. Obviously, you then have to divide by the minutes played, since people you want to compare play different minutes. Dom's win score is higher than Andray's -- and Dom plays a different position from Andray, so the position adjustment is different as well. Getabig — EFF is a notoriously inaccurate measure. Most teams have a dedicated “stats” guy who uses some home brew analysis system or picks up on one he finds on the Web: whether that is WP (the one I like best), or Win Shares, or John Hollinger’s PER.

You seem like a thinking man — you might order The Wages of Wins, by Dave Berri (and some other sports economists), which is where the Wins Produced methodology is discussed. It’s sort of the Freakonomics of sports (mostly NBA, w/ some NFL as well).

Wins Produced is not for such as you and me to calculate directly, because it requires some stat software that can do regressions. But there is an approximation, called Win Score, which can be calculated directly. You can even convert it into Wins Produced pretty accurately using some approximations Dave provides. One of the things you have to do is adjust for position. Obviously, you can’t put 5 centers or 5 guards on the floor, and excellence in a guard will imply different things than excellence in a center.

To calculate Win Score:

Add Points + Rebounds + Steals + ½*Assists + ½*Blocked Shots. Then subtract Field Goal Attempts, Turnovers, ½*Free Throw Attempts, and ½*Personal Fouls.

Obviously, you then have to divide by the minutes played, since people you want to compare play different minutes.

Dom’s win score is higher than Andray’s — and Dom plays a different position from Andray, so the position adjustment is different as well.

]]> By: aznzero http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78597 aznzero Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:31:46 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78597 i have a feeling dray will have a break out year as well as nick and javale i have a feeling dray will have a break out year as well as nick and javale

]]> By: neal http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78596 neal Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:28:22 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78596 I agree, gabbo. Even if Dray can hit some 3's, I don't believe he can hit any more than the guards. I'd rather have him cutting across the middle and down the lane and dashing in for rebounds. He's quicker than most PF's. He should use that to his advantage. I think Dray has already proved he's a legitimate NBA player. That's more than you can expect from a 2nd round choice. I think some of us had unrealistic hopes at times. Any more improvement from him is icing on the cake. I agree, gabbo. Even if Dray can hit some 3′s, I don’t believe he can hit any more than the guards. I’d rather have him cutting across the middle and down the lane and dashing in for rebounds. He’s quicker than most PF’s. He should use that to his advantage.

I think Dray has already proved he’s a legitimate NBA player. That’s more than you can expect from a 2nd round choice. I think some of us had unrealistic hopes at times. Any more improvement from him is icing on the cake.

]]> By: SportzWiz http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78591 SportzWiz Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:09:44 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78591 fyi, just added a pretty cool story. Gilbert donated 25,000 to Wizards Care for President Obama's autographed chair that he occupied during the game in february vs. the bulls. It was planned to go on an auction site and when gil found out about it he called and put in the offer to get it. fyi, just added a pretty cool story.

Gilbert donated 25,000 to Wizards Care for President Obama’s autographed chair that he occupied during the game in february vs. the bulls.

It was planned to go on an auction site and when gil found out about it he called and put in the offer to get it.

]]> By: jdmek9tec http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78590 jdmek9tec Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:08:06 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78590 awesome. Thanks sportwiz awesome. Thanks sportwiz

]]> By: SportzWiz http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78589 SportzWiz Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:05:48 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78589 Gotcha. We actually just moved to this hosting site and obviously are not happy about the issues still popping up. We'll keep working on it. Gotcha. We actually just moved to this hosting site and obviously are not happy about the issues still popping up. We’ll keep working on it.

]]> By: getabigboyoffense http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/15/blatche-officially-changes-from-32-to-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78588 getabigboyoffense Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0000 http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/?p=2760#comment-78588 Thanks SportzWiz. FYI I had simply clicked on Previous Post and then Next Post. Thanks SportzWiz. FYI I had simply clicked on Previous Post and then Next Post.

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