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PHOTOS: WIZARDS GETTING IN SHAPE

With almost a little more than a month away from the Wizards training camp, several Wizards players were spotted at the practice court this morning warming up and getting themselves into shape.

Gilbert was working on his post-up moves against Assistant Coach Phil Hubbard with newly hired Assistants Ed Tapscott and Dave Hopla feeding him the ball, while Rookie Nick Young was shooting jumpers on the other end of the court. Later, Donell Taylor came in to work on his ball-handling skill with Assistant Coach Randy Ayers. Deshawn Stevenson was jumping up and down the obstacle cones with Trainer Eric Waters. We got the exclusive practice photos, so enjoy…

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Comment from LilGil
Time August 22, 2007 at 6:58 PM

Good to see the guys. If someone can tell Donell for me that he’s better with hair it would be nice;) just joking. I hope we’ll get pics and vids of the team getting ready all together later on. Already thank’s for these wizfanatic.

Comment from WizardsDotCom
Time August 22, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Great pics Will!

Comment from Old Man
Time August 22, 2007 at 8:24 PM

I’ve noticed in these and other posted photos that Gil is never more than a few inches off the floor. Hope his knee recovery is on schedule.

Comment from BruceO
Time August 23, 2007 at 3:04 AM

Isnt that all our gaurds except AD? what are they doing defensively. I remember orlandos guard defense was pretty strong.

Comment from Old Man
Time August 23, 2007 at 5:14 AM

If these photos, Gilbert Arenas looks like he has about as much lift as the monument this town should build to commemorate all he has done here. Monuments have a hard time carrying NBA teams, as we found out with Michael Jordan. I hope the Wizards staff, the fans, and Gil himself don’t rush him back into the starting lineup before his knee is ready.

Comment from FantasticWiz
Time August 23, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Hey, Old Man… Gilbert was actually doing post-up moves and then hitting some turn-around short jumpers and layups when I entered the pracitce court. And becasue he was facing my direction with his back to the basket (I caught the action near the end of his shooting practice), I couldn’t get pictures of his face clear enough while he elevated and turned around to shoot.

Plus, last weekend Gilbert played an exhibition game (Lute Olson Classic) against some of UA alumni/NBA players such as Jason Terry. He finished with a team-high 25 points, and went 9 for 20 from the floor, heating up late from beyond the 3-point line. http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/sports/60585.php

I hope this answers your concern.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time August 23, 2007 at 12:25 PM

yeah Gil loves to play the game so if any one rushed him back it would only be Gil him self not the staff

Comment from vitality08
Time August 23, 2007 at 1:02 PM

I work like 4 blocks from the Verizon Center. Can I come watch? I wanna see them practice too.

Comment from WizDom
Time August 23, 2007 at 1:14 PM

I’ve always wondered if they had open practices..

Comment from FantasticWiz
Time August 23, 2007 at 1:18 PM

vitality08… That’s why I called it “exclusive” photos. :-)

Comment from smchawk
Time August 23, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Here’s an interesting statistical rating from 82games.com that I was just perusing: DCS is Defensive Composite Score, attempting to measure a individuals defensive ability.
The new average for DCS is 0. Positive scores denote good defenders and negative scores mean bad defenders. Full article can be found here: http://82games.com/nichols2.htm

Scores of 40+: Excellent defender
20 to 40: Very good defender
0 to 20: Above average
-20 to 0: Below average
-40 to -20: Poor defender
-40 and below: Terrible defender

haywood,brendan 21.6
butler,caron -3.7
stevenson,deshaw -7.9
arenas,gilbert -13.3
thomas,etan -13.3
jamison,antawn -16.6
songaila,darius -16.9
daniels,antonio -20.7
blatche,andray -25.7
hayes,jarvis -58.0

I wasn’t surprised at Haywood being statistically our best defender, as I suspect he had the easiest matchups as there just aren’t many quality centers in the league. I also wasn’t suprised that Caron was second followed by Deshaun. Lastly, this stat shows the Wiz on the whole, a pretty awful defensive team, with only one guy considerd above average.

Comment from wizfan4u
Time August 23, 2007 at 5:26 PM

smchhaw–

interesting site; however i think its not accurate. you mean to tell me jamison is a better defender than hayes, blatche and daniels??? now these 3 can’t tough jamison in scoring, but we all know jamison can’t guard a darn thing! that would also mean that hayes is one of the worst defenders in the league… don’t think so (especially how he guards lebron and vince).

thanks for posting that though….overall the Wiz DO need to pick up their game defensively!

Comment from WizardsDotCom
Time August 23, 2007 at 5:30 PM

wizfan4u – it’s all about the numbers, not necessarily what our eyes see. I’m also a bit surprised by Jamison’s high ranking, but 82games.com has never let me down before as far as statistical accuracy.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time August 23, 2007 at 6:05 PM

yeah that would be hard to put into a rank! i am not shore how they even got that…. i would like to know how they went about geting the info for the rating? because it dose not seem as if you could even rate a defender by his numbers

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

Hmmn. I had a long post on stats queued up but it doesn’t seem to register. Is there a word limit on these things? Or a time delay? I could break it up into chunks…

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

There are more than a few flaws in Nichols’ defensive composite stat, to the point where it’s not especially useful. The reliance on +/- and counterpart PER are two.

The plus/minus system measures how well the team performs both with and without the player on the floor. But if a player only plays with the superstar starters he’s gonna look pretty good. This is where Jarvis gets his rear-end kicked statistically– of players who clocked long-ish minutes, Jarvis had more ‘non-GilbertArenas time’ than anyone else.

Which is worse in his case: Jarvis was the go-to guy when the Wiz switched into smallball sets. In these instances Jarvis slid into the SF position, Jamison took the Center, Caron took the PF role in the Princeton sets. And the team took a position of grabbing it’s ankles and hoping the opponents’ foot didn’t connect with their hindparts. NO knock on Eddie, he usually only tried a small ball set when the team was in trouble already and needed some kind of energy boost to fight back into the game, but still, defensively the Wiz suffered, as you would expect. (And Brendan’s +/- will look that much better).

This is no apology for Jarvis (for instance). Just to illustrate that line-ups play havoc with the +/- stat.

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Eh, the rest doesn’t want to post. Shoot, and it made Brendan Haywood look good. It’s a conspiracy, that’s what it is. Seriously, any reason why it won’t let me post something? There’s no bad words or nothin’. I tried taking out any links…

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 23, 2007 at 8:01 PM

I give up. I can’t even break it down into chunks and post it. Okay, I’ll go back to Real GM. Too bad.

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 23, 2007 at 8:16 PM

That sucks. And I had some real ’smarts’ to contribute…

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 23, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Jarvis is *not* a good defender. Jamison is *not* a bad defender. It’s interesting that BH looks better statistically than ET; that’s what I would have expected.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time August 23, 2007 at 9:53 PM

lol doclinkin thanks for the try as you post dont show up its hard to do

Comment from smchawk
Time August 24, 2007 at 1:12 PM

I just posted it mostly to show that the Wizards are a horrible defensive team. I htink that’s what the statistic tells us the most.

I also am a big fan of the +/- stat as it can really help show a guys value to the team, and not his own individual stat line. Not suprisingly Tim Duncan was tops on this Defensive stat and is near the top in +/- as well.

Comment from WizardsDotCom
Time August 24, 2007 at 1:16 PM

The only problem with +/- is that it doesn’t take into account who the other nine players on the floor are. I do like +/- when used to evaluate line-ups.

Comment from Nara
Time August 24, 2007 at 3:21 PM

I always thought Jamison had exceptional hands which led to him poking away balls and slapping the balls out of opponents hands. He has a hard time staying with people laterally and muscling players that like the bang inside, but he was never at the same level as someone like glen robinson or something like that. At least he LOOKS like he cares about defense even if the results not always great.

Comment from Nara
Time August 24, 2007 at 3:23 PM

yeah, what IS up with the blog? Sometimes it won’t let me post messages like what doclinkin was complaining about.

Comment from WizardsDotCom
Time August 24, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Nara – I sent Will and our 3rd party developer an email about the problem Doc had. Hopefully they’ll be able to figure it out. Looks like it might be a length issue on the blog’s backend.

Comment from the site admin guy
Time August 24, 2007 at 4:38 PM

Here’s Doc’s post in it’s entirety. I’m still testing the system, but it looks like it was the spam blocker choking on some of the word fragments. I’ll honk when it’s all cleared up.

word…

DOC’S POST—————

There are more than a few flaws in Nichols’ defensive composite stat, to the point where it’s not especially useful. The reliance on +/- and counterpart PER are two.

The plus/minus system measures how well the team performs both with and without the player on the floor. But if a player only plays with the superstar starters he’s gonna look pretty good. This is where Jarvis gets his rear-end kicked statistically– of players who clocked long-ish minutes, Jarvis had more ‘non-GilbertArenas time’ than anyone else.

Which is worse in his case: Jarvis was the go-to guy when the Wiz switched into smallball sets. In these instances Jarvis slid into the SF position, Jamison took the Center, Caron took the PF role in the Princeton sets. And the team took a position of grabbing it’s ankles and hoping the opponents’ foot didn’t connect with their hindparts. NO knock on Eddie, he usually only tried a small ball set when the team was in trouble already and needed some kind of energy boost to fight back into the game, but still, defensively the Wiz suffered, as you would expect. (And Brendan’s +/- will look that much better).

This is no apology for Jarvis (for instance). Just to illustrate that line-ups play havoc with the +/- stat.

In another way, they also mess with the counterpart PER. PER is some arcane stat wizardry that tries to take into account everything a player does when they’re out on the floor. Chew on this: http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/per.html

It’s a pretty good stat. It seems to pass the sniff test pretty well. But what it doesn’t seem to measure well is defense. Since there is no effective defensive ’stat’ per se– it overvalues rebounds. This is one reason why Jamison always ranks pretty highly in PER. He snatches alot of loose balls, and good for him. But it doesn’t show whether he failed to guard the guy shooting in the first place, or whatever, or left his man to collapse to a spot where he could grab the board. That sort of thing.

The PER stat does account for other box score stats like blocks, steals, etc, although as the Wiz have learned in the past (or not learned) is that sometimes you defend better not gambling the passing lane for steals (or dropping off your man to try for a block, Etan) but instead playing tight, sticking him like sweat, and forcing him to pass late in the clock or take a shot before the light goes on.

No big deal. It’s still a useable stat. But the problems as a defensive measure are compounded if you’re using it with Counterpart data. Especially with the Wizards. We run a system where the forwards are practically interchangeable, ditto the guards.

In the smallball line-up mentioned above CB, JH, AJ all can be called SF’s in almost anyone else’s offense. And with all the switching that the Wiz do on defense to mask certain players weaknesses, there’s no telling who jacked up the shot that scored, or who was likely to be defending them.

So, yeah, well sure the stat suggests the Wiz had trouble on defense as a team. If box scores already didn’t show it (the only stat that really matters). I just don’t know how useful it is for ranking individual players.

The best measure of a defensive effectiveness is this: does the opponent shoot a lower FG% when a given player is on the floor. Team or individually. This is the defensive stat that most closely correlates to wins. The teams whose opponents’ score the lowest FG%’s are the teams that win the most.

Problem is without careful tracking of individual game tape, there’s no simple way to measure who is causing a particular player to miss a shot. That’s why folks like Jon Nichols are wracking their brains to mash up composite stats so they don’t have invent a new box score measure and convince everyone to use it.

(Favorite non-used stat: the Euroball teams track ‘assists not converted’– passes that lead to shots that should have been scores but weren’t.)

Incidentally Wizfan/ sometime internet reporter/stat maven Kevin Broome extensively tracked the Wiz’ defensive possessions some years back and discovered that Brendan Haywood in fact ranked mighty high in reducing opponent FG% by challenging shots and forcing misses, simply by being huge. And another stat, of the active players in the league drafted since 1999 only Yao Ming has a taller standing reach than Brendan.

So while it may not look from the box score like Big Wood is doing much out the fact is he’s creating the misses that Jamison is converting in to boards –to boost his healthy rebound totals and PER, etc. Jamison is profiting by Haywood’s work. That’s teamwork, that’s a good thing, and is something that a smart Wiz fan should know.

Comment from WizardsDotCom
Time August 24, 2007 at 11:24 PM

Hope you didn’t run off too far doc. ;) Thanks for taking care of this “site admin guy”.

Comment from Wizards4Life
Time August 25, 2007 at 12:08 AM

“the site admin guy” the creativity to make that name is astonishing lol
and thanks for the run down i get what your saying now and the stats don’t seem that far fetched now that i get what they started with
in other words thanks doclinkin

Comment from mkujabi
Time August 25, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Am glad with the wizards preparations especially that of Gil. I think he will make more points this season as he is making more effort to increase his shooting ability. I must confess that am very happy with the signings but why was Carlos Navarro traded? He is a very good player and i think i should have kept him in the team. I am very jealous of him being in Grizzlies. Can someone tell me why he was traded?

Comment from doclinkin
Time August 25, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Nah, I’m here.

Apparently the spam blocker gagged on the fragment ‘ass’ as in the words ‘assist’ and ‘pass’. If you’re reading this post then it’s probably fixed. It’s funny, I’d thought something like that might be the case, so I went through and changed a number of words to make it PG-13 or G rated. ‘Loose balls’ was a phrase I’d tried to change (to ‘ricochets’..). But it didn’t work anyway. Just something to know next time you’re posting on here and can’t get in.

As for JCN.

We weren’t expecting him to be able to manage an escape from his 10+ million dollar buyout. We needed to maintain continuity to maintain credibility. A team can’t lose it’s starters every year an expect to improve, especially when the offense is notoriously slow to pick-up because it functions on player chemistry. We needed to retain DeShawn, but didn’t have the money to also really compensate JCN for the cost of even a tiny buy-out.

JCN was willing to play for 1 year in Memphis almost for free because they have his childhood best friend on the roster. Rumors even suggest that Pau Gasol may be helping him manage the buyout (may violate league rules, but it’s hard to track that). Either way they’re banking on the idea that they can resign him next year when they may have cap room. Though a promise to that effect would definitely violate league rules.

The Wiz are already over the Lux tax by a small margin. We can duck out from under the penalty if we make a mid-season or end-of-season move, but can’t bank on it, literally. And the lux tax means we cut into our profits. Not good business.

Plus he adds only a no-defense combo guard who would only play when Gilbert is not in the game due to the defensive liabilities. He’s Juan Dixon with better passing. I’d love to have him, but he’s a luxury. If he came out next year we surely would have signed him if we had the money and roster space. But this year we had bigger needs and a tighter budget.

Comment from dopeboyfresh
Time August 25, 2007 at 7:45 PM

the wiz could trade Mason and ruffin for anderson varejao… just a thought.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 26, 2007 at 7:46 AM

Right…

Btw, Varejao is a restricted FA; we can’t trade for him. Mason and Ruffin are unrestricted FAs, so we can’t trade them. And, oh, the salaries certainly wouldn’t match up, so we couldn’t make the trade in any case. Not to mention that it’s a completely uneven trade that no GM would agree to.

Other than that, it’s really a great idea.

Comment from Wizards_Fan_85
Time August 26, 2007 at 8:47 AM

GREAT IDEA lol

Comment from tyrone20000
Time August 26, 2007 at 7:00 PM

Jamison is not that bad defensively. 90% of the players have trouble guarding someone quicker than they are. To me the quicker players just eats him for lunch. I for one think the Wizards make a mistake everytime they take him out of the game late on the defensive side. They need to guard against the switch that leads to him guarding someone far quicker!

Comment from dopeboyfresh
Time August 26, 2007 at 7:06 PM

god damn tom…. u didn’t have to murder me…. it was JUST A THOUGHT! anyway we need a center that can do more than haywood and thomas can…

Comment from wiz-skins07
Time August 26, 2007 at 8:54 PM

Just As A Thought…lol

Does anyone think we can make a 3-team trade…including, Wiz, Cavs, Kings..
The Cavs have been trying to get Mike Bibby and i think that the Wiz wouldnt mind a sign and trade deal that would bring Anderson Varajao here…but what can the Kings recieve???…Maybe the Wiz Horribly protected pick and other stuff

Comment from wiz-skins07
Time August 26, 2007 at 8:57 PM

oh..and we would have to give up a player like maybe….Andray Blatche…or Haywood if the would be willing to take him…any other player we could give up???

Comment from wiz-skins07
Time August 26, 2007 at 8:59 PM

oh and i kno everyone says Andray Blatche has a great future…but i like Anderson Varejao a lot better…b/c he can come in and produce for use now….we need production now not in the future..in the future Gilbert and Antwan Jamison will be gone if we cant get production right now

Comment from wiz-skins07
Time August 26, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Trade:

Kings Get:

-Antoinio Daniels
-Eric Snow
-Cleveland 2nd Rounder

Cavs Get:

-Mike Bibby
-Wiz Horribly Protected Pick

Wiz Get:

-Damon Jones
-Anderson Varejao

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=61~406~796~183&teams=5~27~23~23&te=&cash=

all you have to do is add Anderson Varejao to that deal al though i dont hink we would make more than 2mil making the deal work…

Honestly i think the deal wouldnt work but …there are tons of ther ideas i believe

Any Suggestions?

Comment from BruceO
Time August 27, 2007 at 3:40 AM

while we are all working out deals, why doesnt’ someone go out and pick up a girl by telling her “i’ll get you high if you smile like a doughnut” think about it. Oh and wiz-skins07 what are we going to do for a back up point gaurd to ease arenas minutes and make sure he isnt injured by playoffs. and do you realize the cavs are giving up eric snow, a second rounder, damon jones and verajao for bibby?

Comment from BruceO
Time August 27, 2007 at 3:41 AM

how many pimps does it take to change a light..
One
Cause the pimp IS the light

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 27, 2007 at 7:31 AM

Guys — I don’t think we are going to see any complicated trades any more this off-season. We’re pretty likely going into the season with the same centers as last year.

Dopeboy — sorry for jumping on you, I didn’t mean anything by it. It’s always good to hear ideas that would improve our team, and I agree that Varejao would be a good pick-up.

Probably the only really *great* thing we could do would be to convince Mutombo that DC is the place for him to live in order to have maximum impact with all his international social and political work. If we were able to sign him, I guarantee you that the problems between Haywood and Thomas would cease immediately. Not to mention that he’d add 5 games to our victory total.

But… I don’t think it’s likely, so we probably will have Booth instead. Booth is also a good locker room presence, but he doesn’t bring the force of personality or the credentials of Dikembe.

Otherwise, the entire off-season comes down to replacing Ruffin with Pecherov, Mason with Young, and Hayes with McGuire. Good moves for building the future of the team, but not much if any positive difference this season.

Comment from Reuben
Time August 27, 2007 at 9:15 AM

I do not think we are going to make any major moves. But hope fully we can get a decent all around center

Comment from Nara
Time August 27, 2007 at 10:34 AM

Sorry to say but I think our preseason hopes of getting an upgrade in the center department is done and out. At least until the trade deadline or something. Or until BH refuses to come to camp or to play like he cares to force a trade. I hope he doesn’t take that route and just gets reaaaaaally motivated and starts balling like he’s the best center in the league or something. A man can dream…

Comment from Nara
Time August 27, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Are we gonna sign Booth? That’ll probably put us a little over the lux tax zone and I haven’t heard if Mr Pollin is willing to do that even if it’s just a little bit. Can we even have a 15th player w/o going over the tax?

Comment from odawg
Time August 27, 2007 at 12:15 PM

“The Wiz are already over the Lux tax by a small margin. We can duck out from under the penalty if we make a mid-season or end-of-season move, but can’t bank on it, literally. And the lux tax means we cut into our profits. Not good business.”

I thought that we still are a few mil under the cap because the deals for Taylor and Hall aren’t guaranteed? I presume that if Blatche got 5 Yrs 15 Mil that both of them will be kicked out before their contract kicks in.

Don’t see us resigning Booth due to the cap, but I think we’ll end up with Chase.

Comment from brian
Time August 27, 2007 at 3:03 PM

i know this is the wizards blog but alot of things are just upsetting me. this vick thing is overblown, barry bondy is overblown. giambi admitted to steroids and he is forgotten about. baseball GM’s a signing players for dirt cheap in venezuela, puerto rico, and others and playing americans millions. we make money off dog racing. we use dogs in our yards to fight off criminals and other wild animals, hell some people go hunting with these dogs and the dogs get whipped by bears and snakes. who cares about vick! we all make mistakes. there is someone is does no have millions who aint pay child support in 10 years, a lawyer is snorting coke somewhere, the presidents getting blow jobs, jesus is perfect we are not! find something positive to talk about in the news. how come “news” is always negative news? somebody helped an old lady cross the street 2day, somebody gave a homeless man 25 cent today. thats news to me to! ne way for the wiz blogs……… i apologize! it looks like grunfield is set for the summer, i dont think he is gonna make any moves! and can ne one tell me why carmello is playing power foward for USA basketball team?????????? and secondly why not GILBERT???? he needs some pick up games to loosen up ah lil bit

Comment from BruceO
Time August 27, 2007 at 5:29 PM

carmelo is playing power forward because he’s strong enough to defend international power forwards. He also can shoot meaning he can extend the defenses. He also has post moves. Playing him at power forward allows the US team to be fast and have some outside shooting from their big men without any defensive liabilities.

Comment from brian
Time August 28, 2007 at 12:39 AM

sounds good bruce! u should be a scout for the wizards! since the wiz are pretty much squared away whats the depth chart looking like 1-12 or 13?

Comment from BruceO
Time August 28, 2007 at 2:50 AM

brian. I don’t know about some moves that might be made making it hard for me to predict. Currently we have 12 people under contract who can play solidly. Beyond that theres mason, donnell, hall that we could sign depending on how they do at training camp compared to nick young and Dmac and each other. There’s also whether or not we are going to sign a veteran with the minimum. (all these depend on how much money we have left which I have no idea). Theres also a possibility of some trades to get a big man If we don’t get one with the vet’s min.
I’m also curious about whether or not we might pick up some extra pieces from the rest of the league. Some teams have too many players under contract and theres good players without teams out there. I’ve always wished we could invite dajuan wagner to camp. He’s one of the people ( telfair, maurice evans, darkos another) who i’ve fallen in love with their potential. I’m really hoping nick young and Dmac pan out. I have the same feeling about nick young that i had about Monta Ellis when I was looking at the draft charts the year he got drafted and saw how good his offense was. Nick young is really smooth. Dmac I feel can potentially become better than caron but thats just me and thats probably not true cause I also think blatche can be better than jamison as well and nick young better than larry hughes.
So to answer your question I don’t know what they will do. thats why I keep checking in

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 28, 2007 at 7:40 AM

With Hall and Taylor, we are at 14 players and probably just edging into tax territory. Will we carry 15? I don’t know. If so, I presume it’ll be Booth (although I wish we could sign Mutombo in his place). Hall and Taylor aren’t guaranteed, but I think they are likely to play their ways onto the team.

Chase will come to camp, and I assume there’ll be a few more in camp as well, but I don’t see how he can make the team. Aaron Miles would have made the team, and IMO he should have been signed and guaranteed, but that’s old news by now.

I agree that Young and McGuire have potential, but I don’t see either of them playing many minutes, especially not Nick who would have to earn them via instant offense while playing in a new, much more competitive league. Won’t happen.

There’s no way even to discuss trades — the ones that matter usually are a huge surprise.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 28, 2007 at 7:43 AM

I wonder whether Visser will be invited to camp? He had his moments in the Summer (not too many of them, admittedly), and he definitely hustles.

There’s also Adonal Foyle floating around: maybe he is a better choice than Booth?

Any other undrafted kids, or veteran free agents, that interest anyone here? How about Sweetney?

Comment from odawg
Time August 28, 2007 at 10:36 AM

Foyle signed with the Magic.

Comment from Tom Mandel
Time August 28, 2007 at 5:03 PM

Not a bad pick up for them.

Comment from BruceO
Time August 28, 2007 at 5:58 PM

damn the magic went after every big man they could to make up for darko. I think they may have signed three big men now including their 2005 pick. I’m with you mandel, I want Dikembe here for many reasons, one to see the revival of the Georgetown program where his son is playing and he played, two he can do more work in his community programs based out of dc, three he can block shots and rebound (as you can see this isnt ordered according to importance. I don’t see Visser been called to camp. he might if it doesnt cost us anything. My lasting impression of kyle visser is two. One is when someone said ” HI, I’m kyle visser, I suck!” and two is him not making the wisest eating decisions when he was doing his workouts for different teams including the Wiz. He could have been out of shape. Aaron gray and noah for the bulls seem to be doing good, will Visser really be able to check them? our centers are ok we just need to play them to our advantage against opponents instead of splitting time up evenly. Etan does well against the emekas and dwights while haywood does well against the camby’s and Ilgauskis types.

Comment from Wizfan4life
Time August 29, 2007 at 11:38 AM

Does anyone know where the Wizard’s training camp will be held? have they announced it yet? Last year they held it at VCU, a college in Richmond, VA and I got a chance to see them play.

Comment from neal
Time September 6, 2007 at 8:28 AM

Right now we’re at $64,250,169 for 11 players. If Blatche’s contract is for $15M over 5 years and the contract is back loaded, giving him the maximum 8% raise every year, he only costs us $2,556,847 this year. So we’re at $66,807,016 for 12 players. Presuming that Taylor and Hall make the team and are signed at the minimum ($770,610 and $687,456, respectively), we’re at $68,265,082 for 14 players. That’s $400,082 over the luxury tax limit of $67,865,000. If Booth signed for the minimum it would cost us $1,108,718. Mason would cost us $770,610. I suspect we’ll only start with 14 players, however. Means training camp is just for training.

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