WizBlog RSS FeedREPORTS: LA BOMBA TO MEM FOR FUTURE PICK
Hey guys - it seems quite a bit has gone on in my two weeks of absence. We can all play catch up come later, let’s get right to the chase.
Both ESPN.com and Ivan Carter (via his Post blog) are reporting that the Wizards will trade the team’s rights to Juan Carlos Navarro (aka: La Bomba) in exchange for a future conditional first round pick. EDIT: Saturday’s edition of the Post reports that the trade has been agreed to in principle.
Glad to be back home - thanks much to Will (aka: FantasticWiz) for doing a great job holding down the fort in my absence. Looking forward to continued posts from him.
More from my end Monday…unless of course anything exciting comes up. 
August 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 PM
I was hoping we could package Navarro to get rid of Etan’s contract but I guess when your up against the wall a first round pick will do. I hope for Ernie’s sake Juan Carlos does not become an all star.
August 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 PM
repost:
we can use this pick into getting an Al Jefferson…we can offer all our three picks and maybe AD or BH for Al Jefferson…or we can try to get Chris Wilcox or even LaMarcus Aldridge with all of these picks…it neccesarily doesnt have to be one of these players i wouldnt mind Camby or another good player suchs as Emeka…and Roy Hibbert…he will drop that low..there are about 3 center rated better than him and if doesnt drop as i said there are still 3 more to chose from
August 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 PM
I’m satisfied. I know EG did everything he could to get rid of the Thomas contract. I just hope Thomas, Haywood and Jordan can play nice. I have to believe EG has talked to all of them.
On the other hand, EG may not be through. If he decides Pecherov can play center, maybe one of our centers may still be traded. I’d like to sign Blatche and trade him and one of the centers in that event. Blatche should play in LA with Kwame and Kobe. Then they could just be the LA jerks. Then we could draft our future center next year, if wiz-skins07 is right. Let’s hope Memphis finishes just out of the lottery. I presume “conditional” means no lottery pick.
August 3rd, 2007 at 11:42 PM
i think that was a smart trade. good think we didn’t trade him to our rival Miami or Cleveland.
August 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Did anyone else not noticed that Blatch got arrested last night?
August 4th, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Brickjp check about 3 down we heard that like 2 days ago!
August 4th, 2007 at 6:07 AM
This is a good move by EG for the WIZ. I am happy that Pau Gasol get’s his wish to play with JCN. I am glad La Bomba is not in Miami.
In regards to our Center position EG will take care of that as well. As you know the AB situation is now a concern for the team. There are a number of things that could come out of this situation. I just hate to see another young baller with the opportunities and potential he has blow it. So I am going to pray that things work out for AB. I think there are some of us who want to see him do well. Hopefully he will reach out to AJ, Gil, Caron and coach EJ if he is still with us and turn this thing his life around. It is time for AB to make some right choices. AB is down now so I refuse to kick him.
I made some mistakes in my life and I was given a second chance and turned my life around 20 years ago. In life itself we need each other hopefully the WIZ will seize the moment. If ET and BH must continue to co-exist then they must put away the petty stuff and truly forgive each other and help the WIZ make a long run next season.
I believe we can win a lot of games with the team and depth we now have.
I don’t see it yet but I believe it.
August 4th, 2007 at 6:41 AM
Hi Eric, hope you had two nice weeks. Let’s get back to the Wiz, I was hoping we would trade Etan in a package deal but no… We still have his ugly contract on our side… Now we gotta hope that Memphis doesn’t make the playoffs and win the lottery (no no this ain’t no day dreaming
) and finnaly we will have won something with that trade.
August 4th, 2007 at 7:14 AM
If they won the lottey, we definately would not get the pick.
It’ll probably be a lottery protected pick.. meaning we would only get it if Memphis made the playoffs.. which they might this year with Elton going down.
They might get the 8th seed which is the best situation for us…
We then might be able to package our picks together to move up in the draft and get someone we really want or need.
August 4th, 2007 at 7:23 AM
That’s right, I read on bulletsforever.com that it could be top-3 protected, let’s stay positiv… Whatever happens it just gives us “futur opportunities” and not the center we (I) was excpetcing for…
August 4th, 2007 at 8:57 AM
I even doubt it’s top3 protected…
If I were to guess, it’s a lottery protected pick.. at best top 10 protected.
But hey… an extra 1st rd pick is something very useful.
August 4th, 2007 at 8:58 AM
LG - the first option for the Griz to protect the pick (whether it’s next season or 09) probably won’t be top 3 protected. That’s usually one of the last scenario protections. My guess would be top 10 protection, followed by top 3.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:58 AM
Usually the way a lottery protected draft pick works is:
1) The draft pick falls outside the protection so the team traded with makes the pick.
2) If the pick becomes protected (because the team sucked) then the traded with team gets the following years pick WITH NO PROTECTION.
So the question becomes would you rather have a draft pick outside the top 10 or 14 next year or wait another year and get an UNPROTECTED DRAFT PICK WHICH POSSIBLEY COULD BE #1?
Me, personally, I would rather wait the extra year and get the unprotected pick.
August 4th, 2007 at 10:07 AM
From this morning’s Post article:
“It was unclear last night whether the first-round pick acquired by the Wizards will be in the 2008 for ‘09 draft. According to sources, the draft pick likely will be lottery-protected, meaning Memphis would keep the pick if it falls in the top 14.
“Should the Grizzlies, who finished 22-60 last season, wind up in the lottery again next season, the draft pick likely would shift to the following year and be protected for only the top three selections, meaning the Wizards would keep the pick as long as Memphis didn’t wind up with one of the top three picks.
Lets hope Memphis winds up in the lottery again next year, and the pick carries over to ‘09 when they *again* wind up in the lottery!
In that case, it will have been a great trade!
August 4th, 2007 at 10:34 AM
If its 2 years from now, Memphis SHOULD be alot better…
and then the pick would be alot lower…
Anyways.. I think they can make the playoffs this year, so we’ll probably a mid pick which we can package with our pick and move up.
August 4th, 2007 at 11:00 AM
Okay okay, I’m gonna stop dreamin, let’s say it’s top ten protected, as WizDom said, an extra 1st round pick is ALWAYS good, and once again as you said it we could get someone “important” more easily if we have 2 1rst round picks to propose. Still I feel we could have got something better than a first round pick for JCN.
August 4th, 2007 at 11:50 AM
let him go! we do not need blatche! we could use that money to sign someone else. Did you now that some columnists on espn said the wiz and knicks will be battling for the last to playoff spots! WOW! we are under dawgz already! EG get us some help fast! we have an experiment in nick young, pecherov, and dominic, go get us some fire power
August 4th, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Welcome back Eric! I’m just glad a deal got done. It would have been such a waste to get nothing in return and watch Mr. Navarro head back to Europe.
August 4th, 2007 at 12:38 PM
I predict Navarro will score a ton of points and a lot of people will say Memphis got the better of the deal. We won’t know until we use our pick. In any event seems to me EG had little leverage and did the best he could.
I guess he could have offered Haywood instead of Thomas. That’s risky if Pecherov can’t play center and might not have worked anyway. Wouldn’t have been good to see Thomas and Booth as our centers.
August 4th, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I think Carter is wrong about 11 players being under contract. I don’t think McGuire has signed.
August 4th, 2007 at 12:44 PM
I definately think Memphis got the better end of the deal. We are on our blog talking about future draft picks while every Memphis basketball fan is throwing a wild party. The Griz now have two very happy players going into the season. Mr. Navarro and Mr. Gasol.
Our saving grace is it gives us a chance to improve in the future, but, we already have a solid team.
August 4th, 2007 at 12:45 PM
If the reports were right Neal Mr. Mcguire signed a few days ago at around 450k
August 4th, 2007 at 12:47 PM
yeah i would say for now they got the better deal but EG has never been Crazy so we know he has something in mind and it might take 2-3 years to get it done or he might trade the picks and move some one in now or out .. so its all in all a good deal for us and JCN because at least we gave him what he was looking for we could have let him go back but we were nice enuf to let him live his dream in the place that he wanted to do it. and now we have future options
August 4th, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Sorry but we ain’t here to realize JCN’s dream… Our main focus now is to get what our roster needs, and you can count me on the side of the guys who think we didn’t get the best of that deal, still we won’t be sure of that til we know who we’ll be able to draft…
August 4th, 2007 at 1:48 PM
The Post said McGuire “has agreed” to a deal but hasn’t actually said he signed. And hoopshype doesn’t list him. Nevertheless, I presume he’s signed or will sign for the $450,000. So, we have:
$63,823,006 shown in hoopshype
$450,000 for McGuire
$427,163 presumed for Miles (minimum for rookie)
$687,456 presumed for Hall (minimum for 1 year veteran)
$1,108,718 presumed for Booth (minimum for 9 year veteran)
$66,496,343 TOTAL
The luxury tax limit is $67,865,000, so that leaves us with $1,368,657 for Blatche. That’s what we should offer him. If he doesn’t want it, that’s fine with me.
August 4th, 2007 at 3:38 PM
I’d say given his circumstances he should sign for the 1.3 also. After all it’s more than Booth will get being a 9 year pro. That may be a bit too optomistic, but, it’s possible.
August 4th, 2007 at 4:23 PM
If after getting arrested for “solicitatin” “someone” you offer me 1.3 I guess I’d say “thank you sir”. Anyway there’re three scenarios, first one the team doesn’t want him anymore….Or they offer him something around 1.3 and he says yes/or no… I hope we’ll keep him for a good price cuz the kid has definitly some talent he should just think a lil more…
August 4th, 2007 at 5:20 PM
I dont think anyone really has gotten the better side of this deal yet. Navarro in my book is just an old rookie in my book. he hasnt proven that he can hit the nba 3 consistant yet or that he can drive on nba talent. Also with his current size and lack of defense, he would get dominated on the defensive side by either off the dribble or by getting posted up. so i think at best, he will become a good 6th man. He could prove me wrong, but eg and ej must have not liked what they saw when they scouted him (because he was a draft pick of i think mj’s crew), otherwise they would have given him the money instead of deshawn.
On memphis’s side, i dont think this trade improves them a whole lot. they are stilll pretty young. Also, I dont think that gasol is a frachise oplayer and can carry that team, otherwise he would be getting even better numbers than he has gotten on the worst team in the league. he would be better suited as a 2nd option on a championship quality team. So I don’t see them getting out of the top ten of the lottery anytime soon unless conly and gay can realize their potential in the next 2 years, which i dont see happening so we should be getting a pretty good pick from them
August 4th, 2007 at 7:51 PM
I think Navarro will be a good nba player. He was supposedly “one of the top players in Europe”. For me, that translates into a starting SG for Memphis, despite his shortcomings. I wish we had known sooner he was getting out of his contract. I don’t think we would have drafted Young. I still think we would have resigned Stevenson, however.
I hope you’re right stevevu re. Memphis. I hope that pick turns into a top ten pick in 09.
LilGil, did you see Ivan Carter’s column on Blatche? Solicitation is the least of that guy’s problems in my book.
August 4th, 2007 at 8:20 PM
Hypothetical Question,
Suppose that we could trade Brenda Haywood, Etan I need a haircut Thomas, and Antonio I need to play more minutes Daniels–for Elton Brand. Brand has two years left of his contract and will not be able to play until about March after he ruptured his Achilles tendon. I’m sure that the Clippers may consider a deal now because he is almost no use to them this season and could opt out of his contract at season end. For the Wizards if we make it to the playoffs, Brand could make a difference as well as free up a lot of salary space if he does leave. I think Songaila, Pecherov and Blatche if we keep him, could handle the center spot for the team. When Brand does come back I would play him at the center, I know he is only 6′8 but so is Etan I need a haircut Thomas!
What’s your opinion?
August 4th, 2007 at 8:39 PM
im slightly confused….. someone help.
which pick do we get? its not necessarily next years draft pick rite? and how good are memphis’s chances for the playoffs considering this trade and others?
August 4th, 2007 at 9:23 PM
elysia, we’re not quite sure what pick it’ll be.
Most likely it’ll be a protected pick.. meaning it could be protected that if it’s a top 3 pick, we don’t get it.. or it could be protect to top 10 or even 14.. same thing we don’t get it.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:35 PM
See Tom Mandel’s post above at 10 this morning. That’s probably what we get.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:40 PM
i got two words ruben patterson and package a deal with the bucks for are centers. either thomas or haywood
August 4th, 2007 at 9:42 PM
can someone check the bucks salary cap room?
August 4th, 2007 at 10:53 PM
According to hoopshype, the Bucks have only contracted for $51.4M. Ruben Patterson is a FA, so they would have to sign him first.
August 4th, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Americangaw… I seriously don’t think we are going to be able to trade Mr. Thomas. His contract is high, but, his “trade kicker” is what all the teams are balking at. I’m afraid we might be stuck with him. And by the way isn’t Mr. Thomas 6′ 10″?
August 4th, 2007 at 11:10 PM
ruben patterson? isn’t he sf? what are we going to do with ruben?? i understand that he is a good rebounder…but surely he cant help us play the center position. i dont think we need another expensive bench player.
anyway, jcn is 6′3…if he is good with the ball on his hands then it should be a good move on the memphis’ part…but they already have conley whom they should develop at the point.. i reckon its deal to keep gasol happy and provide some firepower off the bench. so its a fair deal. but i really think EG should have pushed one of our centers too.. clear some space to sign another. just my two cents….
August 4th, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Hey Neal… if Mr. McGuire was #11. That would make Mr. Miles #12, Mr. Hall at #13, and Mr. Booth at #14. Do the numbers still work to sign Andre too?
August 4th, 2007 at 11:11 PM
sorry.. from your earlier post
August 4th, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Hey Americangaw… probably is 6″ 8″ without the hair LOL
August 5th, 2007 at 12:10 AM
yes ruben is a small forward but he can guard all positions and we need bulk and defense from the bench. but he cost to much now that i have check on his salary.
August 5th, 2007 at 12:15 AM
remember i say package a deal with one of are centers not both and erine wheel and deal for another center and throw in daniels for the mix.
August 5th, 2007 at 7:24 AM
Thomas is 6′8″ — that’s what he was listed at when he came into the league and was described as a power forward.
Asking who got the better of the jcn deal makes no sense, guys. We spent a low 2d round pick on him and traded it for a (probably) mid 1st round pick. I wish that was repeatable, don’t you?
Someone compared JCN to Juan Dixon; the more I thought about it the more apt this seemed. About the same size, a guy who makes game-winning shots, etc. Juan makes $3m this year and then is unrestricted. His size and lack of point skills mean he is always going to be a back-up. I think he’d be ‘one of the best players in Europe’ if he played there. I see JCN coming off the bench.
August 5th, 2007 at 7:31 AM
We have improved our team *long term.* I don’t see anything that would give us much of a boost this year. Nick doesn’t have an NBA game yet, and we don’t know what we’ll get out of Pecherov. McGuire should be at least as good as Hayes right away, maybe better - but remember, he’s a rookie.
I think we were hoping Andray would be a factor. The Carter article about him makes me think he isn’t dedicated and disciplined enough to contribute this year. But he is still very very young. He’s worth signing.
I wonder whether Ernie still thinks he has a 50 win team? If so, it’s still all about Gil, Caron and Antawn.
August 5th, 2007 at 7:55 AM
Yes, GrifonRacing, we would still have about $1.3M to sign Blatche, presuming we sign Miles, Hall, McGuire and Booth for the minimums.
I’m more optimistic about this year, Tom. At the least we shouldn’t have as much lost time by key players (Songaila, Arenas, Butler). McGuire and/or Blatche should be better backups to Butler. I have to believe EG has done something to get the Thomas, Haywood, Jordan hard feelings improved. He obviously didn’t think he had to move one “at any price”. I’m anxious to see Pecherov play. It would be wonderful if he could be developed into an NBA center. And I think Arenas, Butler, Stevenson and Haywood are still improving.
August 5th, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Why would we need a 6′5″ guard/forward? Ruben Patterson?
We don’t need another guard/forward. We have plenty of them on the roster right now.
Stevenson and Young play the 2, Butler and McGuire play the 3. Why would we need Ruben Patterson. WE NEED A BIG STRONG POWER FORWARD OR CENTER. Someone like Ben Wallace or Kevin Garnett. Etan Thomas is too slow to be a power forward and too short to play center. Brendan Haywood is too too soft. Antwan Jaimason is not a true Power Forward. He is more of a small forward playing Power Forward. WE HAVE ENOUGH SMALL GUYS. WE NEED BIG AND NASTY PLAYERS TO DO THE DIRTY WORK AND KEEP THE OTHER TEAMS HONEST.
August 5th, 2007 at 3:31 PM
neal - of course, you’re right; if the injury problem doesn’t recur we should do better than last year. If the bench performs better, that’ll be great. Having Songaila healthy and integrated into the offense from the beginning of the season will help with that.
If Blatche is signed and improves, if McGuire develops quickly, if Nick can actually contribute his first year, if Pecherov is quick enough to play in the league — if all these pan out, sure, we’re a heck of a team.
Yet, Pecherov aims to be a Nowitzki-style player; he’s not a center. And the center problem is more likely to get worse than better between these two guys. If Ernie can fix that this off-season, we’ll really have made progress.
On the other hand, I doubt Arenas or Butler will improve much — they are already terrific players. Stevenson has been in the league 7 years; he’s not going to change either. All the up-side has to come from the bench.
August 5th, 2007 at 3:55 PM
well there is plenty of room for upside on the bench!
August 5th, 2007 at 6:13 PM
and for “backside” too — always room for “backside” on the bench!
August 5th, 2007 at 8:04 PM
lol well some ones got to keep it warm for the big 3 when they got the game in hand
August 5th, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Hey Tom I was the one who made the JCN/Juan Dixon comparison. I don’t see JCN as a starting SG with Conley or Lowry in the backcourt. JCN will be better suited to come off the bench as a role player. He is not that good of a defensive player. He is in the NBA now not in Europe.
Once the WIZ get to training camp I think EJ will see that they have more versatility from the bench which will help. AD, DMAC, Pecherov, Songalia, Nickand ET is not bad to have coming off the bench. I still say chemistry and team defense is the key. I definitely think DMAC will be the main one off the bench. DMAC can do what Jarvis could not, create his own shot off the dribble as well as distribute the the ball, rebound and block shots from the 2 and 3 spot. Don’t be surprised if DMAC gets more minutes than Nick.
August 5th, 2007 at 11:43 PM
i cannot see the wiz winning 50 games this season unless they improve that defense and the only defense i ever see play is matador style and the east have improve vastly.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:58 AM
Tom? a Joke? and a good one too? You are loosening up sir! I’m a bad influence on you.
Our team is a much better team than we had last year. A lot more versatility, and, a lot more depth. Just think… if Pesh and Blatche, if they sign him for cheap, step up in the middle we might just advance a bit deeper into the playoffs? Maybe even contend for….
August 6th, 2007 at 5:33 AM
Honestly we improved our bench, but we got almost only young guys who have things to prove… We got a solid (except concerning the center…) startin five, then we have AD, songaila, booth and either haywood or thomas as already known backup, the rest of the guys are new in the NBA (except Hall ,if we sign him, who played a couple of minutes this far). Most of these guys are good and should bring good energy from the bench but they’re rookies and we can’t forget that. I was really hoping the Wiz to get a real center, which this far has not been done, let’s hope…
August 6th, 2007 at 7:58 AM
actually…i expect the team to do well even without a legitimate center. if and only if the team plays with a little more hustle…defend as a team …and rebound as a team. just look at the warriors in the playoff…despite being severely undersized….donnie did not utilize foyle, a big man they are paying ….close to 10 million per year if i’m not mistaken…also …we have the same situation, harrington and jamison….to me, seems quite similar as well….
although…boozer really took the team apart….but that was the playoffs..and teams could afford to structure themselves to face their same opponent night after night…
during the league…if the wiz…continues with their run ang gun style…the addition of mcguire…would prove invalueable…in such system…
any comments???
August 6th, 2007 at 9:35 AM
I’m quite sad to see Navarro going to Memphis. Don’t be surprised when he’s being talked about for Rookie of the year along with Oden and Durrant and is playing on the All Star team in his second season. This guy was can’t miss and we traded him away for another pick which is just another gamble. Horrible, horrible decision. The horrible decision starts with paying Stevenson too much money so as not to be able to sign Navarro and then trading him away for cents on the dollar.
The only bright side I see is that this will keep Pau Gasol in Memphis so at least he won’t be lighting us up in the East.
I am truly dissapointed in this decision. I’m also very dissapointed with our off season in general. While I feel we had a good draft, and I hope to see Pech contributing more, I don’t think team has improved at all. Right now I’m giving the Wizards about a 30% chance of having a first round home playoff series, and that’s predicated entirley on their defense improving over last year as I don’t think their talent level has improved.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Boy do we have a difference of opinion. It’s kinda fun, actually.
I think the only thing we seem to agree on is that the Wiz need to defend better to improve.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:07 AM
WOW I THINK THE MEDIA DID A BAD JOB ON ANDRAY. TRUTH WAS IT WAS HIS FRIEND THAT DID THE CRIME WHEN HE WAS DRIVING THE CAR.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:16 AM
DEFENSE IMPROVE IF WILL GOT RUBEN PATTERSON AND A RUGGED CENTER THAT AVG 8 TO 10 BOARDS
August 6th, 2007 at 12:23 PM
i’m dissapointed in giving up navarro for a draft pick thats protected. The only way i’d take it depends on how protected it is. Top three i might take it. Lottery protected? no way. This team hasnt made the playoffs in a while and I don’t think 2009 is going to be as good a draft as 2008. With eight teams reportedly interested then all the teams one by one picking someone else to play for them I wonder what kind of offer we were getting. I think we were dangling etan + navarro. If thats what we were dangling and everyone was saying no to etan. What were they offering for navarro. And I would trade navarro to a team in the east as long as theoretically we get back an equivalent deal. ANd until we get a good shot blocker or rebounder or the young players (NY, DMac, Pech , miles and blatche) show some offseason improvement I’m not impressed. Alot of teams had better offseasons than us. Boston has KG and allen, memphis got darko, conley, navarro, new york got randolph and might get artest. what did we get? Rookies, a future protected pick and addition by subtraction.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:05 PM
eccentric I saw the news article out of Syracuse about AB not being arrested for solicitation. It was someone else who was arrested for that charge.
AB was arrested for not appearing in court from back in 2006 (driving related).
AB still is not completely off the hook in the matter because it seems he needs to be careful with who he is hanging out with. There is a price to pay when you are in the public eye. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:45 PM
the wiz can send booth and hayes for a good forward and a center… then we could drop micheal ruffin…
August 6th, 2007 at 1:57 PM
bruceO what r u talkin’ about… memphis was the 5 seed for the west in the 2006 playoffs…
(even though dallas swept them…)
August 6th, 2007 at 2:24 PM
dopeboyfresh, Booth, Hayes and Ruffin are all free agents, by dint of our not resigning any of them so far, although it looks like we’ll resign Booth.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:46 PM
We need to resign AB, give him a second chance. Everyone said we didnt improve anything, how can we say that. Since we got Def-coach Ayers from Orlando. I believe that Ayers can trained Haywood into atleast 10-10. Thats all we need from him.I think we will improve our defence alot this year. So far we got young 3 and big 3. I Believe they can do it.
August 6th, 2007 at 5:05 PM
We weren’t in a position to make either of the deals Boston made — for Ray Allen or Garnett. We don’t have anyone to trade who can bring us an impact player (unless you want to trade Gilbert or maybe Caron). We didn’t have a top draft pick.
You can’t make dust into gold by typing on your computer guys. Ernie had a good draft, although I wish Rodney Stuckey had been available to us instead of Nick. Some people will say we should have taken Belinelli. No way to know for a year or so. We got terrific value at #47 in the draft, however; everyone agrees about that.
We’ve helped the team’s future. Have we gotten better for next year? I don’t see it. And I don’t see a path unexplored by Ernie that *could have* made a big difference. People who say we should have done this, that or the other thing w/ Navarro’s rights just aren’t paying attention. We took the best offer we got for a player who didn’t fit into our future.
Now… maybe Ernie is still going to make a deal. We do need to resolve our Center situation.
August 6th, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Oh, and let me remind smchawk that JCN is 6′3″ 170 pounds and needs the ball in his hands. As dmac pointed out first, the guy he most reminds you of is Juan Dixon. JCN is probably a bench player for most of his career, not a ROY candidate or an all-star candidate. But… we’ll get to see this Fall won’t we?
August 6th, 2007 at 9:07 PM
i hear JO wants to be traded……….
August 6th, 2007 at 9:32 PM
we should get Camby. EG, you should get Camby then we can be a real contender not only in the NBA but also in the world. C’on plz do it.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:01 PM
EG just needs to work some thing so we can have a center that will help the big 3 make a deep playoff run.. i wanna see the wiz get past the 1st round this year..
August 6th, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Sign and Trade Blatche…propsed trade by me
Cavs Get:
-Blatche
-AD
-2nd Round Pick (if necccesary for deal to go through)
Wiz Get:
-Anderson Varajao
August 6th, 2007 at 10:38 PM
this would be a great deal we would get our a Shot Blocker, Rebounder with GREAT energy with the team that we currently have i believe he can actually start for us at the 5…
August 7th, 2007 at 6:54 AM
wiz4life it does seem possible that JO could leave the pacers and head to kobyland.
The thing is besides giving up LO who does not want to be a part of it they would have to part with Andrew(upside)Bymun and probably Crittendon or Farmar for JO, and others.
Problem is the Lakers don’t want to part with Bynum.
They just might do it. You know how that east coast west coast tupac biggie thing goes. Beantown is getting to much glam and the west coast can’t let that happen so the newspaper writers are doing their best to stir it up and make it happen. Hollywood Swinging.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:43 AM
I just heard more information on the JCN trade and if this is correct Ernie just made his worst mistake as a Wizard. WOW we really get screwed on this one. If this is the case we’d have been better off just signing him. How stupid is this?
Memphis receives J.C. Navarro
Washington will receive a first round pick from the Grizzlies (contrary to what has been reported, I am told that this is how it will break down)
I will try to make this as simple as I can, but it is a little tricky
‘08 if the Grizzlies select 20 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 19 protected)
‘09 if the Grizzlies select 17 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 16 protected)
‘10- ‘12 the Grizzlies pick is lottery protected
‘13 - the pick is top 12 protected and if it has not been given, cash considerations will be given to the Wizards.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Tom,
JCN reminds people of Juan Dixon? I don’t get that at all. He’s lightning fast and gets to the basket and gets his shot off. The player he reminds me the most of is Tony Parker but with a better outside shot. You should go ahead and write yourself a note to pick him up for your fantasy team
As far as the trade suggestions go - I’m more adamant about not giving up AD then I am on how good JCN is. I find it hard to believe anyone who watched the Wizards last year doesn’t love this guy coming off the bench for us. There was a reason he was in the games at the end. There was a reason we were still competitive in the playoffs games. We’d have to be getting an impact player in order to have AD involved in a trade. We can’t give up this guy to just fill our need of another big body.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:06 PM
tony parker is a point guard. JCN is not a point guard. Of course he’s a good player; *all* these guys can play basketball. Lets see how he does in the league.
AD is a terrific player, but he needs to *slow things down.* He is probably not the right backup point guard for us. But, he does have trade value, so if we dealt him we’d want to get something good in return.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:18 PM
I think Navarro will be a good NBA player. But worth more to other clubs than to us.
I also like Daniels. Last year we usually had a three guard rotation (Arenas, Stevenson, Daniels). I presume this year we’ll have a four guard rotation, including Young. I look at that as an investment in the future, rather than a noticeable improvement in guard play this year. That’s an indication of what I think of Daniels.
Tom, why don’t you think Daniels is a good fit for our team? And you said you heard Hall was signed. Where was that? I don’t see the point in signing him unless another team was interested. I’d rather go to training camp with a couple of slots open. You never can tell what’s going to happen there.
bsteelz36, where did you hear the pick from the Grizzlies is SO protected? Hard to believe that.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Wizards Insider said that Hall was signed. Apparently, the Wiz didn’t think it was important to announce it.
Chris Vernon claims that he has a good source that says the pick is extremely protected. He seems like a reasonable guy, but probably isn’t official. He runs the ESPN Radio in Memphis or something like that.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:15 PM
yeah thats way over what i have read about a protected pick i have seen past teams with protected picks like this
first year top 10 protected
2nd year top 3 protected
3 year free for all…
August 8th, 2007 at 10:03 AM
Unfortunately, Aaron Miles, who I thought would make a great addition to our team, is signing overseas.
‘“Aaron has a very high value. We had offers from teams all over Europe, and a number of NBA teams showed interest,” Miles’ agent, Chris Emens of Octagon, said.’
He would have stayed, had he been offered a guaranteed contract. ‘Emens said he’s confident Miles could have made the Wizards roster, but the squad, which is close to the luxury tax cap, has to await some legal issues involving Andray Blatche before deciding whether to keep the troubled player or sign somebody like Miles.’
This explains why we’ve heard the Wizards are ‘interested in bringing Roger Mason back.’ I rate Miles well above Roger Mason, and I would have given him a guarantee at the rookie minimum with a team option for year 2.
August 8th, 2007 at 2:14 PM
I agree, Tom, I hate to lose Miles. Guaranteeing the rookie minimum would have made sense to me. I don’t understand what it all has to do with Blatche. What “legal issues” could make the difference? Whether or not they are going to keep Blatche, we still need cheap players to fill out the roster. And Mason costs more than Miles.
I know Mason thinks he can play either guard position. Is he right? Is he a better idea than Taylor?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Between Mason and Taylor, I actually prefer Taylor. He can’t shoot the 3 at all, but he has long arms and is active; he gets some opportunity points (which Mason never gets), and he is a better rebounder than Mason.
But, neither of them is an NBA player. Taylor has the body, but he has made no strides. Mason is a negative. Every minute he is in the game takes away from our chance to win it.
But, really, all these guys are at the end of the bench. What really matters is the question whether we’ll change our situation at Center. If we field the roster we have now, we’ll win the same # of games we won last year — maybe a few more if injuries are more under control.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 PM
TM - “Every minute he is in the game takes away from our chance to win it.”? Sorry, but there are few NBA players that have that kind of effect on a team for every minute he’s playing. But then again, I am open to statistical evidence (+/-, W/L)
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August 8th, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Does anyone know yet what the “protected” part of the draft pick for Mr. Navarro will be?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:56 AM
Eric — Mason has *negative* win score numbers. That means when he is on the court, we are in some measure giving away our chance to win.
Btw, this doesn’t mean that Roger Mason can’t play the game of basketball, or that he is a bad person. It’s just statistics talking. The conclusion is that he doesn’t have an NBA game. If he is on the roster for his effect in the locker room, or because he gives a good example in re: professionalism, fine — but he does not contribute to winning games.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:12 AM
They must be figuring Mason as a role player - to shoot 3’s late in the game if we’re behind. I hope he does a better job this year than last.
I don’t think McGuire or Hall are signed. Otherwise the Wiz would have sent a copy of the contract to the league and it would appear on hoopshype. Maybe the Wiz sent them contracts and they sent them back signed but the Wiz haven’t signed off.
August 14th, 2007 at 12:24 AM
dont know if someone is still replying and looking at this blog, but i got great news, the warriors have just waived adonal foyle, so maybe we can somehow send haywood and taylor(cant believe im sayin this, but maybe he’ll thrive in gs) for foyle? seems like a fair trade to me, haywood is experienced in playin uptempo ball, and we get a center that averaged 2.2 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1.04 blocks in only 10.0 minutes this past season(besides, that ten minutes is kinda false, bcuz beidrins was in there to score and get re’s) but he averaged a block in only ten minutes, just imagine what he could do on a daily nba schedule with about twenty to twenty seven minutes a game with the wizards.
and we also signed dmac, so with dmac, deshawn,foyle,ruffin, and songaila, that gives us much more defensive depth to work with this season. hey, even booth was getting blocks and successful shot attempts when he got playing time the next season. foyle may just be the missing piece to out puzzle. scorer arenas/jamison/young steals caron/gilbert/daniels / blocks and putbacks foyle/etan/pech(?)/