CONSOR’S CORNER: A LOOK BACK AT LAS VEGAS
Wizards TV Analyst Glenn Consor give his thoughts on which Wizards players caught his eye at NBA Summer League 2007
Dominic McGuire:
NBATV announcers stated he is the “steal” of the 2007 Draft at 47. Too early to make that claim however; Where do I begin? Rare combination of above the rim athleticism and feel for the game.
Can create off the dribble, get his own, and get to the rim. Reads opportunities and executes. Defender who can guard the 1,2, and 3. Decent range, a combination of Loul Deng, Scottie Pippen and Caron, in style of play. Will contribute ASAP. Tremendous pick.
Nick Young:
A flat out prolific scorer, didn’t get up many 3 pointers, but he can shoot it. A master at attacking angles and getting to the rim and the mid range game. Incredible first step, like Rip Hamilton. Shot selection will improve with time like all pure scorers.
Love his passion, and will need to harness his emotions, not to react on every play and sequence, it’s a long season. Has the physical tools to be a great defender, lateral foot speed, quickness, long arms, anticipation skills, and desire. Impressive ball handling skills, with the ability to go by defenders with a quick cross-over and stop and go game. Great pick.
Olesksiy Pecherov:
Will need to make the quick adjustment to the speed and athleticism of the NBA. Great range and quick release in the catch and shoot game. Will extend defenses and play a major role in the pick-and-pop game.
Will need to add upper body strength, some low post moves, to become a complete player. Has a nice feel for the offensive glass and works hard. I love his upside, and most importantly, appears very coachable. Great feel.
Mike Hall:
Love his moxie and toughness, much improved range and outside shooting from GW days, a position rebounder, old school, better defensive rebounder, no question in my mind he belongs in the NBA, somewhere. Will make a team and contribute off the bench.
Aaron Miles:
Plays within himself, showed he can stick the 15′ pull up jumper. Really understands his role as a set up guy, sees the floor and will make the extra pass, understands offensive schemes, and can get to the rim.
Greatest asset is his on-ball defense, can be a pest, recovers well off screens. Traditional point guard. Belongs in the league as a backup 10 mpg point.
Glenn Consor has been an NBA/Wizards analyst for 17 years and has served as an NCAA College Basketball analyst for Westwood One and SportsTalk 980 for 10 years. He has also served as an analyst for NBATV for the past four years. Consor, a four year starter at point guard for Rick Pitino’s Boston University teams in the late ’70s, played professional hoops for Maccabi Haifa (81-82) of the European League.
Posted: July 16th, 2007 under Summer League 2007, Wizards.
Comments
Comment from neal
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Sounds like it’s time to pencil in Miles in place of Taylor for the 3rd (insurance) point guard. That’s a minimum of $427,163 versus $770,610.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:20 PM
I wonder what he made last year in France?
Until any trades are made, the roster looks like:
Gilbert, Antonio, Miles at the point
DeShawn and Nick at the 2
Caron, McGuire and Hall at SF
Antawn, Darius, Blatche & Pecherov at 4
Haywood, Thomas, Booth play Center.
That’s 15 guys. We now have young players with potential — not just role players — in Young (instead of Mason), McGuire (instead of Hayes) and Pecherov (replacing Ruffin). Miles (replacing Taylor) is an upgrade in every way but still a role player.
Big steps forward, I think!
Comment from wiz-skins07
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:20 PM
well i can see the Wizrdas bringing everyone in the starting line-up to traning camp except Viiser…man he wasnt as many of us hoped…i can see Miles as our 3rd PG and even as our 2nd PG he has a very similar game to AD good Asisist:Turnover Ratio and besides that he plays good defense…he will defenitly be sign by the Wizards
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:21 PM
skins — I don’t think it’s definite, but I do hope they bring him to camp and that he does well there.
Comment from wiz-skins07
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Comment from wiz-skins07
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Blatche’s agent comfires already having conversations with Mavs
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47170/20070716/blatche_discussions_with_washington_ongoing
Comment from HGN
Time July 17, 2007 at 9:06 AM
Tom Mandel……….. I have a couple of questions. What do you think of a trade of Jamison, Etan , Hayes ( sign and trade ) , and Daniels , to Memphis for Pau Gasol ?
And question number 2 , who would we have to trade or waive in order to keep Carlos Navarro? And do you think Ernie Grunfeld will bring him to camp ? I just think he is too valuable to just “Give” away and get nothing useful in return when he could be a weapon off the Wizards bench.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 17, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Blatche’s agent has certainly spoken to a number of teams. But, I’m pretty sure the Wizards will match any offer for him. Now, if it’s the full mid-level, then maybe it’s hard. But, I don’t think he’s gonna get that kind of offer!
HGN — We’re *not* getting Pau Gasol. Above all, the Grizzlies are not going to trade a franchise type player for a list of spare parts plus Antawn. Would *you* make that trade if you were the GM of the Grizzlies?
As to JCN — I view him as trade bait. Above all, it’s just possible that he could be the factor allowing us to get rid of Etan’s contract. I don’t see any chance of him playing for us, and I don’t really care. He is a guy who needs the ball in his hands, and that role is not available on the Wizards. Here’s hoping Miami or Memphis step up to trade for him.
Comment from wiz-skins07
Time July 17, 2007 at 11:52 AM
HGN i believe that would work trade Antwan, Etan, Jarvis (sign and trade), Daniels, and we would have to add our 08′ Draft Picks to that trade most likely and give them a filler
Antwan = 16 mil
Etan = 7 mil
Daniels = 5.5 mil
2 08′ Draft Picks and Maybe Nick Young (Most of Us Like McGuire more anyways…and with JCN Nick Young would barely even play)
thats about
28 mil off our books although we bring in another 20 mil contract i would still go for it
Comment from HGN
Time July 17, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Oh well, Tom and Skins07 , it was just a thought. Maybe even wishful thinking. But if Memphis does blink, or have any notion of moving Gasol this summer , I hope Grunfeld has his ears on with any combination of the aforementioned players. Don’t get me wrong , I love Antawn , Etan and Daniels , I just think we need a good center. We would still have a big three with Arenas, Butler and Gasol. We just desperately need effective and consistent inside play.
Tom, you ask if I were GM of Memphis would I trade Gasol for any combination of the aforementioned players,,,, maybe not. But if I was GM of Washington , I would damn sure ask. I just think it would improve both teams.
Plus, I just hate to see us continue to lose valuable and serviceable pieces ( Rip ; Hughes ; Webber ; Jeffries , etc.) and get next to nothing for them.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 17, 2007 at 2:58 PM
The Rip trade was for Stackhouse — at the time, I thought it was an ok trade.
Hughes was overpaid; he still hasn’t made it through a season. Webber was back in the old Wes Unseld days and was a *ridiculous* trade. Jeffries hasn’t brought much to the league; Isiah overpaid him.
Anyway, what ‘valuable pieces’ are we in danger of losing? JCN? We never had him, and he wouldn’t fit in anyway. He works better as trade bait.
Comment from neal
Time July 17, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Tom, I agree with your lineup, but it puts us about $800,000 into the luxury tax territory. But it’s all just for fun. EG isn’t through.
Yes, I’m glad we didn’t match the offers for Hughes and Jeffries. The only mistake EG has made, I think, was overpaying for Thomas. But at the time I think EG had to make a statement to the Wiz and other players in the league that we were now willing to pay for good players, rather than let them go.
Comment from rayvinly
Time July 17, 2007 at 4:52 PM
In case Young needs some time to adjust to the NBA and Stevenson can’t recover his shooting touch, I would keep Navarro over Miles for the fact that Navarro is a better scorer and we already have Antonio Daniels who can distribute the ball.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 17, 2007 at 9:00 PM
My questions include:
* who backs up Stevenson? (please don’t tell me it’s Nick Young; he is *not* ready for prime time)
* do we add a point guard (e.g. Miles)?
* what’s the rotation at the 4, where at least 3 guys really need minutes, maybe all 4?
So… yes, probably Ernie isn’t done. But, as I note above, it takes two to tango. Trades ain’t easy!
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 18, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Sigh… the Detroit Pistons… National Champs.. The Wizards/Bullets West! Rip, Rasheed, Big Ben. But, that was in the pre EG days.
It was hard to lose Mr. Jeffries (Mr. can’t make a layup), and, Mr. Hughes (Mr. can’t stay healthy). We got AD and Mr. Stevenson. I will never again question the great EG. After all… Kwame for Caron? That one alone should put him in the hall of fame?
With DMac, Young, and Miles (possibly Visser and Hall too), we have a lot of options this off-season. Go Ahead EG. Make me proud once again!
Comment from Wizards_Fan_85
Time July 18, 2007 at 10:01 AM
I agree with you Tom about the 4 players at the 4 all needing playing time. I’m thinking maybe there will be times when Butler plays the 2 and try to get Blatche in at the 3 occasionally. The players that I’d like to see get the most playing time…
1. Arenas 38
2. Butler 36
3. Jamison 32
4. Stevenson 24
5. Blatche 19
6. Daniels 17
7. Songaila 16
8. McGuire 14
9. Thomas 12
10. Haywood 12
11. Young 10
12. Pecherov 10
I’d almost just unload of either Haywood or Thomas solely to have more playing time for the players with upside. I like Aaron Miles as well and he could almost get some playing time too.
Comment from odawg
Time July 18, 2007 at 11:18 AM
* who backs up Stevenson? (please don’t tell me it’s Nick Young; he is *not* ready for prime time)
Antonio Daniels. Yes, I know he’s a PG. But he backed him up last year. Arenas plays 43 minutes a game so he doesn’t need really need a backup. If somebody goes down then Young is going to have to play some minutes ready or not.
* do we add a point guard (e.g. Miles)?
Sure looks like it. He might even get a few minutes against shrubs.
* what’s the rotation at the 4, where at least 3 guys really need minutes, maybe all 4?
It sure looks like Song is expendable. Pesh won’t get many minutes. Look for Song to play some center. It’s better then AJ at that position.
Comment from kmcquade
Time July 18, 2007 at 11:11 PM
Tom,
On your question of who backs up DeShawn, I agree with you that initially it’s not likely to be Nick Young until he reduces his turnovers and stops the unnecessary fadeways.
The most likely backup modes to DeShawn are Antonio/Gil playing combo guard and Dominic McGuire because he plays smart and versatile. Dominic also gives the Wizards the capability of being a shutdown defender on the 2 against the larger shooting guards like T-Mac.
Nick Young looks like Jarvis Hayes without the decent Jarvis defense and that was against summer league competition. Plus Nick needs to lose the attitude issue of overreacting.
Comment from Wizards_Fan_85
Time July 19, 2007 at 12:59 AM
I’d like to see a lineup of
PG- Arenas
SG- Butler
SF- Jamison
PF- McGuire
C- Blatche
sometime during the season. Blatche and McGuire are my boys!
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 19, 2007 at 8:01 AM
Caron can’t play the 2, and Antawn can’t play the 3.
But, I’ve been wondering whether *McGuire* could play some 2! Obviously, it’s hard to tell from summer league, but he seemed to have an excellent handle and quick feet as well as good shooting form. That’d be a heck of a big shooting guard!!
Comment from Wizards_Fan_85
Time July 19, 2007 at 8:58 AM
Butler and and Jamison could handle the 2 and 3 imo, but I guess that wouldn’t matter if McGuire would play the 2. McGuire would be a big shooting guard…not only 6′8, but he’d out muscle practically everybody. We’d have some nice mismatches on offense.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 19, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Caron doesn’t handle well enough to play 2, and he probably couldn’t defend the quick guards in the league. Antawn is not quick enough to play 3. If these guys could play these positions they *already would.*
Comment from neal
Time July 19, 2007 at 9:52 PM
I think they’ll again have a three guard rotation to begin with, like last year (Arenas, Daniels, Stevenson). But soon they’re going to have to give Young playing time. We’re not going to the finals this year. Daniels won’t be with us when we get there; let’s develop Young for the future.
McGuire is a 3. Butler is a 3. Jamison is a 4. Songaila is a 4.
But can Pecherov learn to play center?
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 19, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Pecherov has good lower body strength, which would help him. Otherwise, who knows? And, who knows if we can move Etan or Brendan? Otherwise, we don’t need him at center.
I hope you are right about Young; I’m not sure how quickly he’ll develop. He is tremendously talented, but his game is undeveloped.
Like you, I’m ready for Daniels to go — which doesn’t mean I don’t like him; I *do* like him. He’s just not the best backup point for us. Still, until we *know* that Young can be productive, or unless trading AD gets us another 2 and Miles develops, well… it’s pretty speculative.
The best development is that we are replacing role players with young guys who have a future in the league. Good summer so far!
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 20, 2007 at 8:41 AM
The one disappointment in Vegas was that Visser didn’t show much. I was kind of hoping another steal had slipped through. I wouldn’t be totally surprised to see him in camp, however, for another look.
Comment from wiz-skins07
Time July 20, 2007 at 9:27 AM
Yup that was really disappointing TM everyone was hyping him up and they had nothing to show for
Comment from dcbutler357
Time July 20, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Quick note, Jamison is good, that’s not to be debated. Mcguire may be able to have that spot. Jamison has some “decent” inside moves, but he has NO jumping ability. We need some board help, more-so than scoring strenght. Jarvis was so-so his career and not consistent. We have some new and hungry players that can rebound, and Jamison may be more expendable than we think.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 20, 2007 at 9:06 PM
If a guy Visser’s size is not drafted, that usually tells you something.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 20, 2007 at 11:13 PM
1– Daniels, Miles
2– Arenas, Stevenson
3– Butler, McGuire
4– Jamison, Blatche
5– Haywood, Pescherov
as things stand right now making no further moves.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 20, 2007 at 11:15 PM
With all the other guys on our potential roster this year it gives us depth and versatility
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 21, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Daniels isn’t going to start w/ Arenas. If things stay as they are, the starting lineup will be the same as last year too. And Daniels will soak up most of the backup minutes at guard, w/ Miles doing only spot duty. McGuire takes Hayes’s place backing up Caron. The rotation at 4 and 5, other than the starters, is going to be quite complicated, however.
Comment from neal
Time July 21, 2007 at 10:59 PM
I think Blatche will be behind Jamison, Songaila and Pecherov for minutes at PF. I like Blatche but I think we may have gone a little overboard based on just a few games at the end of the year. I think he will compete with McGuire for backup minutes behind Butler. On another team w/o so many good power forwards it would be different.
Yes, Tom, I think Arenas and Stevenson will start at the guard positions. But like GrifonRacing I’ve wondered if Daniels isn’t the best PG on the team, and Arenas the best SG. However, I can’t imagine Jordan having the courage to take Arenas out of the PG slot. And such a move might have serious consequences for Arenas’s contentment and, therefore, team chemistry.
On second thought, could Arenas make all those drives from the SG position?
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 21, 2007 at 11:35 PM
I just think it would be interesting to see a really good, true point guard run the team. I’ll bet Mr. Arenas’ numbers increase. I’m sure he will still have the ball in his hands much of the time, but, with Mr. Daniels running the team I think everyone elses numbers will also increase. Any good point guard makes everybody better around them.
Neal.. I think Mr. Arenas could make all of those drives if he played the 5? lol.
I tried to think of something we already have so as not to infuriate Tom with all the crazy trade stuff.
How about Pau Gasol for Phil Chenier? If they hesitate throw in Wes Unseld.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 21, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Depending on how everyone progresses (Mr. Young, Dmac, Mr. Miles, Pesh, and Mr. Blatche) this is going to be a very interesting season. Mr. Songalia has already showed his abilities once he got healthy.
Even if we stay put we have gotten a lot better as an over all team. Much more depth this year.
A good center is nice, but, the Bulls won a few championships without one?
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 22, 2007 at 2:00 PM
If you have the strength to “throw in Wes Unseld” you have to be *one big dude*. 
The problem w/ starting AD at the point is that the team slows down considerably, and that’s away from our strengths. What is true, however, is that to get real value out of Antonio, we need to play him more minutes. And that is difficult, given the minutes Gil plays. That is why he is a trade candidate — he is a player probably more valuable to another team than to us.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 22, 2007 at 2:06 PM
I agree about Blatche, btw — you can think of him as a rookie this year, coming in after 2 years of college and picked high in the first round. That justifies the numbers he’ll get from the wizards as a restricted FA and makes you realize that he has a lot of work to earn minutes.
Still, really we are waiting on a trade, which would change the way the roster is arranged.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 22, 2007 at 10:56 PM
Yes… sigh… i feel we are gonna lose a 10 . a one a four and a five. Sorry folks it’s how my mind works.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 23, 2007 at 8:37 AM
Grifon - what do you think we’re going to *get* when we lose those guys?
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 23, 2007 at 11:58 PM
Well… I just hope it isn’t “screwed” like it would have been in the pre EG days. lol
I’d like to see us get a good Big like everyone else on here, but, I really see no way to do that given the fact that most of the good free agents are gone. We wouldn’t have been able to afford any of them anyway. If we make a trade it will, no doubt, involve multiple teams. Portland has quite a few good Bigs? Miami and Memphis want JCN? Who knows? I wish Denver hadn’t just signed Chucky Atkins…. I had some hopes that way.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 24, 2007 at 12:10 AM
Hoops World says JCN is going to Miami for a future draft pick and “other considerations” ? Does that make sense financially guys? I’m not a financial guy as all of you know, but, that deal seems very weak to me because it’s not likely Miami will be a lottery team next year. Maybe Shaq is the “other considerations”? LOL
Comment from stevevu
Time July 24, 2007 at 6:30 AM
wait grifon is the trade close to being done. it makes sense financially because you are just trading rights for rights. other considerations could be cash. considering how he was a 2nd rd pick it would be an improvement to get a 1st not in the lottery even though he might be worth more than that supposedly. he hasnt proved he can hit the nba 3 with consistently yet so to me he is still a rookie that could be nothing more than a role player. I think we should wait out for memphis, we could get their 1st because pao will start demanding that they get jcn.
Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 24, 2007 at 10:53 AM
I keep telling you guys, the GM at Memphis doesn’t work for Pau Gasol!
The big hope w/ JCN’s rights has been to use them to get someone to take on Etan’s contract. If that cant’ be done, it’d be *great* to get a 1st round pick next year for them.
Comment from GrifonRacing
Time July 24, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Steve
The article said that Miami will now “pull the trigger” on the deal because they lost out of Steve Francis. The article also said they wanted Francis but would go for the JCN deal because they needed a good “point guard”? It’s my understanding that Mr. Navarro is NOT a point guard? Hoops World is the “only” place i’ve read that trade scenario.
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Comment from Tom Mandel
Time July 16, 2007 at 9:11 PM
All great comments and analysis from Glenn Consor. My only question about what you say, Glenn, is with respect to Nick’s ball-handling. Yes, he can do all those things, but he is still loose with the ball. He was picked a number of times, and on other occasions just sort of lost control of the ball and gave away pace by having to recover. And, although he has the stop-and-go, he seems not to be able to actually get to the rim in traffic.
I notice that Visser isn’t mentioned. He looked pretty stiff the last couple of games.
Man oh man, do I want us to bring Miles to camp!