WizBlog RSS FeedSALARY CAP SET FOR 2007-08
The National Basketball Association today announced that the Salary Cap for the 2007-08 season will be $55.630 million. The new Cap goes into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Wednesday, July 11, when the league’s “moratorium period” ends and teams can begin signing free agents and making trades. More…
CAUTION: Please take the time to read this easy-to-read breakdown of the Collective Bargaining Agreement before discussing trade/FA scenarios. It will help keep flaming to a minimum… 
July 10th, 2007 at 10:22 PM
The MLE is $5.356 million… If we expect to sign both DeShawn and Navarro.. that would have to be split between the 2…
Also, in order to stay under the lux tax.. I believe we only have 7 mil in space.
Blatche may take up half of that!
We don’t have much room to work with.
July 10th, 2007 at 10:46 PM
unless Etan gets traded.
July 10th, 2007 at 11:22 PM
well guys we will have to sign Navarro and Jarvis (he would cost half or maybe even a third of Stevensons Contract) maybe 1.5 mil per year for 2 years and Navarro at 3.5 mil per year for 4 years….plus signing Stevenson for 4 years would be to much because he will end up being back up half way through the year
‘07 / ‘08 Line-Up:
PG: Gilbert Arenas, Antoinio Daniels, Aaron Miles
SG: Juan C Navarro, Nick Young, Jarvis Hayes
SF: Caron Butler, Dominic McGuire, Darius Songaila
PF: Antwan Jamison, O-Pech/Andray Blatche
C: Brendan Haywood, Kyle Visser, Etan Thomas
O-Pech will see time at the 4 and 5
Andray will see time at the 4 and 5 maybe even the 3 (small ball)
D-Mac and Songaila will see time at the 3 and 4 (small ball)
July 10th, 2007 at 11:31 PM
or maybe we can do that 8% change thing and see if it works to sign both JCN and DeShawn
July 10th, 2007 at 11:32 PM
Nara,
In order to trade Etan and get cap space… we would have to trade him to a team that is under the cap. Memphis could do it. But then it means that Navarro goes too.. so what’s the point trying to get under the lux tax but then having no longer needing it.
If we trade Etan to a team that is over the cap, we would probably take back an expiring contract.. but that won’t affect our cap until NEXT year.
July 10th, 2007 at 11:34 PM
Wiz-skins,
even if we managed to sign both Navarro and DS to the 5.3… that leaves approx. 1.7 mil to sign Blatche which won’t happen…. or else we’re in lux tax land… and I believe the organization is unwilling to go there.
July 10th, 2007 at 11:38 PM
i know but can we as i said sign Navarro and Jarvis (he would cost half or maybe even a third of Stevensons Contract) maybe 1.5 mil per year for 2 years and Navarro at 3.5 mil per year for 4 years….plus signing Stevenson for 4 years would be to much because he will end up being back up half way through the year
‘07 / ‘08 Line-Up:
PG: Gilbert Arenas, Antoinio Daniels, Aaron Miles
SG: Juan C Navarro, Nick Young, Jarvis Hayes
SF: Caron Butler, Dominic McGuire, Darius Songaila
PF: Antwan Jamison, O-Pech/Andray Blatche
C: Brendan Haywood, Kyle Visser, Etan Thomas
O-Pech will see time at the 4 and 5
Andray will see time at the 4 and 5 maybe even the 3 (small ball)
D-Mac and Songaila will see time at the 3 and 4 (small ball)
July 10th, 2007 at 11:44 PM
I’m sorry I meant to say Hayes and Navarro.
Same thing… we sign them using the entire MLE (5.3)…
I’m not sure if Hayes would count towards the MLE but anyways.. lets say they both sign for a combined 5.3
That leave 1.7 mil before we go into luxtax land..
So if a team offers Blatche 3 mil, we won’t match.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:43 AM
Wizdom,
NO Jarvis Hayes. He’s gotta go!!!!
I don’t want to go through another year of cringing every times he shoots…
July 11th, 2007 at 6:39 AM
I don’t think Jarvis is getting signed… Ernie kept saying (for the past weeks) “our priority is to resign Blatche and Stevenson”, he actually said “our own free agents” but it was mainly said in the news that this statement included Stevenson and Blatche. Now the team won’t break the bank to get stevenson at 4mil a year, that’s obvious but I wouldn’t be happy with getting back Hayes, he ain’t consistant enough…
July 11th, 2007 at 7:01 AM
lil mistake in my previous comment, I wanted to talk about the wiz not giving DeShawn 5mil a year and not 4, sorry, I guess 4 “could” make it fo’em.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:27 AM
deshawn wants 4 years 18 mil and i think that might be a reach so i dont think we should resign him.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:50 AM
thats like 4.5 mil a year and i think thats over pay i think we should take 3 mil b/c half way through the season i garuntee you that he will be on the bench watching Nick Young
July 11th, 2007 at 7:51 AM
plus i like JCN more than DeShawn he has a better offensive game and DeShawn wasnt even all that great defensively
July 11th, 2007 at 7:52 AM
and if no trades go down i see this as the starting line-up:
PG: Antoinio Daniels
SG: Gilbert Arenas
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Antwan Jamison
C: Brendan (although he is softer than a roll of Charmin)
July 11th, 2007 at 8:32 AM
We gotta trade JCN and Etan as a package deal and Ernie has that clearly in mind. It’s a chance we have not to miss!!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:37 AM
You know, Eric posted the link for the “cliff notes” version of the CBA for a reason :).
Blatche won’t be signed with the MLE. He’ll be signed with an early bird exception.
Hayes wouldn’t be signed with the MLE, he’d be signed with a Larry Bird exception.
DeShawn could in theory be signed with a No Bird exception… but he wants too much money. Therefore he needs to be signed with the MLE.
JCN needs to be signed with the MLE. I’m not sure why, the cliff notes version doesn’t adequately address players in Europe.
The luxury tax threshold is 67.8 million.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:02 AM
Thanks odawg! LOL
July 11th, 2007 at 10:23 AM
The problem is that we only have 7 mil to spend before going into the lux tax…
Currently, we only have 9 players under contract at approx. 60.5 million.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Oh.. I forgot D-Mac… That would be 10 players.
His contract should be small though.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Visser also will probably make it, that’s 11. Taylor or Hayes has a chance to get signed for about the veteran minimum if we don’t keep one of DeShawn, Blatche or Navarro.
Then we have to see what happens. What happens if we don’t agree to a deal with Navarro? Can he go on the open market? Or is he stuck in Europe?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Navarro would be stuck in Europe if we don’t trade his rights.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:50 AM
It would insane to give Deshawn all of that money, It would be Insane to let Blatche leave (Future all-star)!
Deshawn was the worst starting 2 guard in the league last year. Why are we rewarding him. We a 20yr. old, who has 2 yrs. experience proven that he belongs and can standout why are we waiting? Please don’t let Blatche go!
He is a future (In 2 years) rich mans Lamar Odom!
July 11th, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Remind me WHY we are desperate to keep Deshawn?
July 11th, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Gilbert wants DeShawn on the team.
DeShawn is a good fit for us… He knows the system.
He knows his role, plays defense and shoots open shots.
It’ll be nice to have him back for the right price.
However, if it’s too much, its better to just let him go.
July 11th, 2007 at 12:20 PM
There is no way we re-sign Hayes. Hayes is done. Cavs are reportedly interested in him http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/118327897435090.xml&coll=2
There has been NO talk on the web about the Wiz re-signing him. The offer to Deshawn and the choice of Nick young in the draft and the now the availability of Navaro. Plus, we have Roger Mason Jr. and Donell Taylor, two projects much more worthy of investment than the dud that is Jarvis Hayes.
“Hayes, who missed huge chunks of his second and third seasons to knee injuries, has never averaged more than 10.2 points and never shot better than 42.1 percent.”
From Bullets Forever
July 11th, 2007 at 12:29 PM
is gil more likely to stay on a mediocre team WITH deshawn or a winning team WITH navarro?
Who’s more likely to deliver? Deshawn, one year removed from being called the worst starter in the league, with a weak stat line that got weaker in the playoffs without gil and caron, or Navarro?
July 11th, 2007 at 1:02 PM
I agree that Jarvis Hayes needs to go bye bye
I agree that DeShawn Stevenson is not worth 18 million over 4 years (although I do like him, I can now understand why orlando balked — there just isn’t a huge upside there)
Navarro is a complete unknown to me. He’s older, 27, i say try and package his rights in a trade somehow
I don’t know if it is possible, but I’d like to see us go after Emeka Okafor. We all know Charlotte would love Antawn to end up there. Plus they are likely to lose Gerald Wallace to free-agency? Maybe they’ll take some combination of Navarro, Jamison, and Etan Thomas. Maybe Ernie can work his magic on some three-team deal. Apparently Cleveland is high on navarro (and maybe they’ll take Jarivs Hayes too??).
July 11th, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Stevenson wants too much money. I say stop concentrating on Stevenson and turn the attention to Blatche. Then since Navarro can’t go any were unless we let him go sign him after Blatche. Then let Navarro and Young battle it out for the starting spot.
Stevenson will find himself signing for league minimum again.
July 11th, 2007 at 1:34 PM
No need to concentrate on Blatche. EG is going to let other teams set Blatche’s contract. EG’s in the perfect situation. If nobody offers Blatche a good contract, we can get him cheaper.
July 11th, 2007 at 1:53 PM
I definately don’t want to keep an overprived Stevenson for 4 years. With Navarro wanting to play the Wizards had to choose between going after either Stevenson, Navarro, or Hayes. Ernie wants Stevenson, but not for 18 million and preferrably not for 4 years. I know Etan has a really rough trade clause that would increase his salary to 8 million a year if traded, so that would make him very undesirable to teams. More likely we’d trade Haywood. Hayes is gone. Blatche will be a Wizard, but I think Ernie WANTS to figure out the SG position first. After seeing Nick Young in the first summer league game…he has a bunch of work to do before starting. Looking at the free agents at SG…I see Charlie Bell, Matt Carroll, Derek Anderson, Eddie Jones, and Mickael Pietrus. Carroll made $1,188,000, Jones made $337,238, Pietrus made $1,910,520, and I can’t find the other 2. Now compare the options at SG….Stevenson for 4.5 mil, Hayes for 2.5-3 mil (guess), Carroll probably wants 3.5 mil, Pietrus probably wants around 4.5 mil, Navarro for 4 mil, and Jones may retire or sign a one year contract (veterans min.). Looking at the possibilities without a trade I’d go with Hayes or Jones unless I felt Navarro was good enough to make a strong impact.
PG- Daniels/Navarro
SG- Arenas/Young/Taylor
SF- Butler/Blatche/McGuire
PF- Jamison/Songaila/Pecherov/Booth
C- Haywood/Thomas/(Visser or Ruffin)
July 11th, 2007 at 3:17 PM
The wiz tend to have a habbit of overpaying non productive players(Etan, Haywood,Latener,Kwame)just in recent years AD could be worth the 5 mil a year but with Gil being an allstar he dosent log many minutes but he shows he can run a team and he is a teacher/leader.Songila was good but missed about 40 games should we give him a fair shot at a whole season to prove he’s worth 4 mil per i dunno this is buisness baby so i dont blame Deshawn for trying his hand but who really needs a 2 that bad they will pay him 18 mil per….. I hope not us
July 11th, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Blatche is good I like him EG is doin the right thing by waiting it out to potiently match an offer I just hope nobody pulls an Ny move and offers a stupid price like they did Jefferies
July 11th, 2007 at 3:21 PM
If we keep anybody at the 5 we should keep Etan & Booth I like the move for Emeka that seems a little more realistic then a move for JO he would probally be alot cheaper plus MJ runs the show so anything is bound to happen over there so we might have a shot but I dont think he is up for grabs
July 11th, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Whats with the talk about Emeka Okafor? He and Gerald Wallace are the Bobcats 2 main priorities. I don’t the Wizards have even a long shot at him. Plus, Jamison’s 07/08 salary is $15 million while Okafor’s is $4.5 million. Numbers don’t exactly balance out. A pipe-dream would be Jamison,Thomas, and draft picks for Okafor and Wallace. Wow, that would make the Wizards the frontrunners to win the Eastern Conference.
If EG pulled off that trade, there is no way that Gilbert would even consider leaving.
We would have Gil, Navarro, Young, Butler, Wallace, Okafor, and Haywood. What a solid young core that would be!
July 11th, 2007 at 3:36 PM
Didn’t mean to forget Blatche
July 11th, 2007 at 4:10 PM
pipe-dream — that’s the right word. Why would the bobcats make this trade? Because they like the cellar?
July 11th, 2007 at 4:31 PM
TM - Some teams might like being first/second/third on stage with Commissioner Stern in late June…you never know!
July 11th, 2007 at 4:34 PM
All the Okafor talk is a pipedream.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:44 PM
We do need a young, athletic big — about that there is no controversy. Of course, I’m not sure there is a team in the league that *doesn’t* need one!
July 11th, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Well, if we could make a trade with the Bobcats, it could help us with our Salary Cap situation because they are way under the cap even with the Richardson signing. That’s presuming MJ would deal with the Wizards. It would help us with our Luxury Tax situation.
Seriously, I wonder whether Navarro would be a good fit on their team. Richardson is an injury risk, and Carroll is their only decent backup shooting guard. Plus I think they just waived Knight, so who is their backup point guard? Navarro and Thomas for say Brezec would help our Salary Cap situation and keep us under the Luxury Tax.
If you wanted to go crazy, a trade like Butler, AJ, the rights to Navarro, Etan, and a first round pick for Okafor and Wallace might be considered. Sure, AJ only has one year left, but Charlotte has money.
With the money you save you bite the bullet and sign Stevenson. It would totally destroy team chemistry for both teams, but the Wizards would have a good team on paper.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Obviously, the more good big men you have the better. But there’s a major difference between a team like say Miami with Alonzo, Shaq and Haslem or Chicago with Wallace, Thomas and Deng and a team like say Washington with Etan, Haywood and Songalia. Sure, Miami and Chicago could always use more big men but not with the same urgency as Washington.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:09 PM
I still cant believe we missed out on Zebo. Moving on though, what other big men could we get, all scenarios considered? I think all Wizards fans realize that EG and EJ are kidding themselves about thinking that the Wiz can have success without acquiring a strong post presence. Jamison obviously has to be included in such a move, but what other chips could we combine with Jamison to get a legit center?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Actually a trade with the Bobcats isnt as much as a pipe dream as u think. Remember AJ & J Rich played together in Oakland and Jamison is a North Carolina native not to mention a TarHeel and we know what MJ will do just to get his hands on a fellow Tarheel (ala Stackhouse) by the way AJ salarie next year is around 19 mil so we should dump it quick and get somethin for him instead of letting him walk away a free agent so a move with the Bobcats isnt out of the question because they were one of the teams interested in JCN…. MJ drafted him remember? I just wouldnt take the deal if Emeka wasnt involved we need a young bull at the 5 and he would fit the bill so AJ + JNC +ET for Emeka & maybee some cash he is a ligimit 5 for ball in the east great fit anything is possible & it clears a hell of alot of cap space. With all the offensive firepower we can make up the 25 or so & 15 points AJ + ET make up
July 11th, 2007 at 5:26 PM
Besides the Bobcats play pretty good D they need offense so AJ would fit great there.We dont need Wallace and we would be crazy to trade an allstar for a hustle guy like wallace he’s goog but not that good.Plus we drafted Dmac and he’s a Gerald Wallace type player
July 11th, 2007 at 5:28 PM
One way to avoid the Luxury Tax would be by trading Etan and Blatche(S&T) to Seattle for Wilcox. Washington gets a reasonably decent big man, plus a few million dollars. I think Wilcox can play center and he’d be an improvement over Etan. Seattle might do it because Wilcox doesn’t have the best attitude, and Blatche promises to be a good player in time. He’s a worthwhile prospect.
Seattle has plenty of time to wait for him to develop.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Where would Blatche play there with Green & Durrant they would be soft without wilcox. they’d suck but we would take him i dunno bout givin up Blatche tho maybee songila
July 11th, 2007 at 5:45 PM
If we got Emeka we could immediately give him an extension he is due to make 5.4mil in 07 and 7.0 mil in 08. AJ is due 16.3 mil ET is due 6.3 the bobcats have the money for cash conciderations they are 32 mil under the cap they should have no problem signing wallace either that would clear about14 mil in cap room in 07 enough to do some manuevering
July 11th, 2007 at 6:27 PM
What about dealing Jamison for Jermaine O’Neal? Since the Pacers are rebuilding, this would clear 16 mill of cap space after next season which would be huge for them. Maybe for the deal to go through we would have to add additional players ie AD, Navarro, Etan, or Haywood but it seems that we can afford a better combo than the Lakers Odom&Bynum or the Nets Richard Jefferson.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Glad to see someones been listening all this time. The only problem is JO makes to much money… I thought AJ got paid ,this guy is making 19.7,21.3 &23 mil for the next three years… For us to take on that kinda contract we coundnt sign any of our FA and we would have to claer almost everyone but the big 3 and rookies …It might work if they were up 2 it but once again our bench would stink . Probally worse than last year but the Heat made it to the conference finals with only Shaq and D Wade so who knows I guess the question is will the managemant and players buy into it. Boy would I like to have JO but at what & whos expense
July 11th, 2007 at 6:59 PM
idk about all the cap stuff but since everyone is talking i am inpressed with the way that OP makes hard fouls all the time he never gets the little weak ones.. you can feel it when he gives one up!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:29 PM
JO makes 3.4 million more than AJ. Since we are right below 60 mill, we have about 7 mill to go before the luxury tax. We’d have 3.6 mill cap space. Trade Etan, gain some cap space. Forget about Deshawn. Sign Mike Hall and Calvin Booth with Minimum-level Exceptions. Sign Blatche with the Early Bird or Non-Bird Exception, and Navarro with the Mid-level Exception.
Starters: Arenas, Young, Butler, Blatche, O’Neal
Bench: AD, Navarro, McGuire/Songaila, Pech/Songaila, Haywood/Booth
Inactive List: Mike Hall
July 11th, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Can we just waive Etan and Haywood from the contracts to clear the cap space? Today game show that D-Mac can be a starter for SF. Played Butlar in SG. Since we cant deal with Stevenson for >18
July 11th, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Read the rules, guys — nearly every trade suggested here is illegal under the rules. Most of them are also completely one-sided.
Btw, the idea of giving up Blatche to get Wilcox just makes no sense. Wilcox is an extremely limited player.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Wizzy,
When you waive a player, you’re still responsible for the salary… and thus affects the salary cap.
However if a new team picks up the player.. part of the salary can be taken off the books..
And with Haywood, he actually has a good contract.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Most anaylsts say that the Pacers are probably going to trade O’Neal this offseason. There other 2 options are
Nets: Richard Jefferson and Nenad Krstic and the Lakers: Bynum/Odom (Lakers are refusing to give up both).
Tell me how Jamison for O’Neal or Jamison+Navarro/Thomas/Haywood for O’Neal is more one-sided than those deals. Jamisons PER for 06/07 was 27.60. O’Neals was 28.00.
What is absurd/illegal about that trade?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:44 PM
Posted today:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7011270
Jermaine O’Neal, Indiana Pacers
Why: O’Neal has been breaking down the past four seasons, and he isn’t a consistently dominant player — so his value may actually equal his contributions, which is unusual in this situation. The Pacers have gradually fallen off the map the past three seasons and at least some of that is relative to O’Neal annually breaking down physically. There are those who believe he’s damaged goods and prefers to take 17-footers and shies away from contact in the post.
Where: The two most likely candidates the Lakers and Nets, both of whom have had offers on the table for J-O. Is it possible the Pacers are overrating his value, or is president Larry Bird just playing possum? It’s hard to fathom that Bird won’t trade him, it just comes down to whom he gets and his track record hasn’t been good.
When: With three years left at an average of more than $21 million, just how choosy should the Pacers be? Although it appeared the deal with the Nets for Jefferson and Nenad Krstic was the closest to getting completed, the Lakers are just as likely — although there should be no way they include Lamar Odom. The Pacers should move him before the season, or his value may plummet from yet another injury.
Chance of being dealt: 50 percent.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 AM
haha TM’s words are true.
I’ve stopped paying attention to most posts because 1. there’s too many now. and 2. just not realistic.
hey TM
do you see us still sitting around with Brendan Haywood when camp rolls around? I do.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:30 AM
lol yeah I remember people talking about Emeka at one point, you know what maybe we should trade the three old rookies, two old centers and a partridge in a pear tree for Kobe
July 12th, 2007 at 2:38 AM
hey, I like our partridge in our pair tree. I’m sure the lakers will be more than content with just the two old centers for kobe.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 AM
does anyone else think rashard lewis’s contract is outrageous and is glad they aren’t magics fans?
July 12th, 2007 at 5:22 AM
Like everybody said we need one great perimeter player . If we can get rid of Jamison to Bobcats for Caroll . Because Tarheel’s M.Jordan will love to have TarHeel’s A.J and Haywood.Then we should be trade A.D and Etan to Denver for Marcus Camby. Since Denver needs Guard. We will have more cap more since we get rid of A.J and Etan. The Wizards Operator should be committed to this organization to winning and winning a championship. If EG can do that, there is noway we can’t be in the Championship.
Arenas, Young, Butler, Blatche, Camby
JCN, Caroll, D-Mac, Songalai, O-Pech, K-V, Haywood
July 12th, 2007 at 8:13 AM
You guys can forget about Jamison being traded, at least this season, anyway.
Jamison is a great perimeter player..it’s been proven, time and time again..
July 12th, 2007 at 9:23 AM
I don’t think EG wants to deal Haywood.
It’ll be hard to get fair value because his contract.
On the block is probably Etan, AD and Navarro.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Here’s the breakdown guys:
Jamison 16.360
Arenas 11.950
Butler 8.402
Thomas 6.374
Daniels 5.800
Haywood 5.000
Songaila 3.910
Young 1.491
Pech 1.299
Leaves us with 7.279 before we hit the forbidden LuxTax…
Now how do we sign Dominic Mcguire, Andray Blatche, Calvin Booth, Navarro, and Stevenson.
Looks like the only senario that will free cap space is trading Navarro + (Etan) to a team like Memphis which can take the whole salary and we don’t take much back.. (a pick.. or one of their young talents on a rookie contract)
July 12th, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Here’s what’s getting me.
I was looking at Hoophype and I couldn’t help but notice that we’re in the middle of the pack salary wise. I think six teams are already paying the luxury tax. And a few million at that. If Cleveland resigns Varajeo, they’ll have to pay the luxury tax. And they’ll have to pay it at nearly his full salary. He’s gonna be expensive!
I only looked at a few other teams, but it didn’t look like many of the teams above us had more then ten players. It looks to me like at least ten teams or so are gonna pay the luxury tax this year unless they want to play with ten players or so. What’s up with that? I’m not sure how we get around it also.
Oh, Memphis just signed Darko. Rumor has it at about 3 yrs/21M. They’re around the cap now.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:45 PM
I’m with Nara. Rashard Lewis’s contract is outrageous. Who do they think he is Superman? If Lewis gets hurt like Grant Hill I’m going to laugh.
I don’t think the Wizards will re-sign Stevenson. He wants too much money. I read in the Washington Post the Wizard might be looking at Devin Brown from the Hornets.
Also it looks like we have seen the last of Jarvis Hayes I hope he finds a spot somewhere before all the money runs out.
I hate to lose a player like Jamison but it’s because of his contract the Wizards can’t get anyone else. So, no legitimate big man for us this year.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:01 PM
but do you think that EG will give a shot at Devin Brown from the Hornets he is a shooting gaurd and his nu,mbers compare if not the same then better than DeShawn Stevenson…plus he would be cheaper
2006-07 Statistics
PPG 11.6 RPG 4.30 APG 2.6 EFF + 11.69
give me your thoughts he’s a FA we could sign him to 2.3 mil per for 3 years and Navarro to 3 mil per for 4 years
July 12th, 2007 at 2:02 PM
sorry guys i had to repost it here WizDotCom said to post it in a FA thread
July 12th, 2007 at 2:38 PM
I don’t see why not. I don’t know much about Devin Brown but his numbers are about the same as Stevenson’s. I think the Wizards can get him for much less. Only thing I’m worried about is the team’s chemistry. Three years in a row the Wizards has had a different SG. That can’t be good. But I would rather risk that, sign a more affordable free-agent and have a deeper bench than over pay someone.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 PM
NO MIKE MILLER, NO DICE!!! with Memphis & Devin Brown isnt very good tho he would come at a much cheaper price than Deshawn. Remember Gil wants Deshawn back & we want Gil back so they’d better do somethin to keep this guy happy
July 12th, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Even if they don’t sign Brown. I wouldn’t mind the line up suggested earlier:
PG: Antoinio Daniels
SG: Gilbert Arenas
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Antwan Jamison
C: Brendan Haywood
Bench
PG: Juan C Navarro
SG: Nick Young
SF: Andray Blatche, Dominic McGuire
PF: Darius Songaila, O-Pech/
C: Etan Thomas
July 12th, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Yeah we want Gil to come back. In my opinion he is not the glue that holds this team together. I don’t think I would pay a player that much money that can’t stop anyone and hope I can find the right pieces to place around him at the right price so we can build a championship team.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:30 PM
I keep hearing rumors that AD is expendeable..Do you guys think Taylor is ready to handle the backup PG duties. It depends to me . Lets be honest Gil is going to play 35-38 mins per game so that only leaves about 10-13 mins for taylor …can he handle that?
NO NO NO!! If Gil goes down like last year,, AD showed just how valuable he is.. In no way could Taylor execute an offense in this leauge like that Keep AD at all costs
July 12th, 2007 at 3:47 PM
The Wiz have about 5 perimeter players & no post players all of our bigs are just role players… I dunno about you guys but Im not content with just making the playoffs & going back home.. If we dont make a move with AJ now He will walk away next year.. Its almost a given he will never make 16 mil or even close to it ever again so he is going to take the money cause its his last payday.We need a guy just for the post. Post only preferrably a 5.
We’re in the east so with the addition of Dmac, Blatche is more suited for PF play if we resign him. But from what I see so far Pech is no Dirk.. not even.. So we had better not go with him and let Blatche go scott free to another team..
Question… If AJ was traded to another team who do you start at the 4
Blatche
Songila
July 12th, 2007 at 3:48 PM
From Ivan Carter @ Wizards Insider:
“Posted at 4:00 PM ET, 07/12/2007
Stevenson gets new contract
According to a league source, the Wizards and free agent shooting guard DeShawn Stevenson have agreed to terms of a new contract. Terms are yet available but I will have an update soon.”
July 12th, 2007 at 3:48 PM
The Wiz have about 5 perimeter players & no post players all of our bigs are just role players… I dunno about you guys but Im not content with just making the playoffs & going back home.. If we dont make a move with AJ now He will walk away next year.. Its almost a given he will never make 16 mil or even close to it ever again so he is going to take the money cause its his last payday.We need a guy just for the post. Post only preferrably a 5.
We’re in the east so with the addition of Dmac, Blatche is more suited for PF play if we resign him. But from what I see so far Pech is no Dirk.. not even.. So we had better not go with him and let Blatche go scott free to another team..
Question… If AJ was traded to another team who do you start at the 4
Blatche
Songila
Pech
From what ive seen I go with Blatche,, easily
July 12th, 2007 at 3:49 PM
I bet they overpaid.I alomst guarentee it,, hope theres money left for someone else
July 12th, 2007 at 3:59 PM
If Jamison was to go and we didn’t get a PF in return. I would start Blatche
July 12th, 2007 at 4:01 PM
They jumped the gun on the report, the sides are close but no agreement.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:25 PM
yup there close to and agree ment but i would rather have JCN than DeShawn…what the heck Jarvis played better defense then DeShawn
July 12th, 2007 at 5:27 PM
i dont know what we were thinking signing Pech he is useless…he is softer than Haywood…and i would play Blatche and Songaila over him anyday that leaves him no minutes…maybe some team likes him and will bite hopefully…trade him and AD and bring in Aaron Miles…although its not going to happen (I KNOW TOM I AM DREAMING ABOUT THE TRADE )
July 12th, 2007 at 5:41 PM
What do you guys think about JCN + Etan for Darko? Seems to work for both teams, Memphis gets a beck up center, and a 6th man, and makes Pau happy, and we get a center and rid of Etan…..When Stevenson was on the court this year, the opposing team’s effective FG%: 52.5%…….When he was off the court: 50.4%………Now that’s a Wizards’ version of a defensive stopper if I ever saw one…..Darko signed for 2 yrs 21 mil….same as etan….so we have the same contract better player, but no JCN
July 12th, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Darko can’t get traded for awhile.. he just signed.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:01 PM
I agree Jarvis is a good defender but I still think Deshawn is more versatile. At least he played all 82 in consecutive seasons but 18 mil isnt much to ask concidering Reshard Lewis just got 126 mil.. I dont know what to think ..Id take him back but if we didnt Id say keep Jarvis at the vet min for insurance if nick young takes a while and for defensive purposes mainly. maybee his offense will come back later.. Looking at the numbers, its not a far fetch that Jarvis, in what will be Deshawns new limited role couldnt compete or even put up about a few pionts a game and give up solid devense off the bench at a very reasonable price. No one esle wants him & im not even sure if we want him ,but that dosent mean we wont take him
July 13th, 2007 at 9:30 AM
Ernie knows what he’s doing, I’m sure — but I don’t think Stevenson is worth the kind of money being discussed.
Ivan Carter talks about salaries and trades here. Speculation does seem to center on the idea of packaging the rights to jcn and etan for… something.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:43 AM
I like Etan and Haywood sharing minutes. The Pistons needed that one post player (Rasheed Wallace) wito push them over the edge. I think we have the talent to get to the finals next year…not gonna win it though. But getting to the finals would keep Gil here and that post presence will develop from our bench…possibly Blatche, maybe McGuire. The Pistons relied on defense and needed that post scoring more then the Wizards. We need a post defender, but I’m glad we didn’t try for Ben Wallace. I would like Tyson Chandler, but I think he’s not going anywhere. How about Samuel Dalembert?
July 13th, 2007 at 2:47 PM
If you only could keep 1 who do you keep Ruffin of Cal ?
Somebody’s not going to make the team when the rosters trimmed down so what do u do?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Booth. He can block shots and score if left alone. And for a center, he’s a good FT shooter. The only thing Ruffin can do is muscle an opposing center who is scoring too much to get him off his game.