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In Saturday’s edition of the Washington Post, Ivan Carter writes that “According to team and league sources, the Wizards have offered Stevenson a four-year, $12 million contract. But Stevenson, who turned down a three-year, $10 million offer from the Orlando Magic last summer, has not accepted that offer.”
Stevenson told the Post that “‘I’m happy that Ernie is still in the process of negotiating, it’s just that right now I feel that the offer that is out there is not my offer,” Stevenson said. “My agent and Ernie will continue to talk and I’m confident that we’ll come to an agreement that works for both sides. I know they want me and I feel good about staying in Washington.’”
July 7th, 2007 at 10:43 AM
like bac in the day puff daddy and mase mo money mo problems
July 7th, 2007 at 10:43 AM
The Wizards should try to keep Stevenson’s contract down so they can sign Navarro. If Navarro is as good as the scouts say he his, imagine the possibilities with him and gilbert in the backcourt. If he can shoot better than Stevenson (especially in the playoffs), then why not get rid of Stevenson if he doesn’t want to play for a reasonable price and put Navarro in the opened guard starter spot. He clearly has the experience from his time with the spanish national team and can knock out the big shots in crunch time, not to mention maybe give Gilbert a run for his money in the next youtube shooting contest.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:08 AM
well we can want in one hand and…. you get the rest! he better take what we can give or he might be outa here
July 7th, 2007 at 12:19 PM
He isn’t going to let himself become a FA twice in a row. He learned his lesson, and his agent will advise him sensibly too I hope.
Seems like Ernie and/or Eddy really like DeShawn. I think he is just ok. I don’t see a big problem replacing him if the deal doesn’t work out. He had his best year so far last year; will that repeat, I wonder?
Have we made a qualifying offer to Jarvis? Are we planning to let him become unrestricted and either let him go or feel that we can sign him for less than the qualifying would be?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:41 PM
yeah i would say let Jarvis find his own way and if he wants to take a little less cash we could take him back he is not up to what EG or EJ expected him to be. as far as Deshawn goes i hope his agent tells him that 12 mill over 4 is a deal for a guy that stunk it up in the playoffs and again he is good beside Gil and Caron but that’s not going to cut it. we need to know if its worth it too keep him or to take JCN and bump him witch i don’t like too much because he is unproven in the NBA and from what i have heard he has no D
all in all EG had one hard season ahead of him hope we get what we need and stay healthy
July 7th, 2007 at 12:55 PM
I think DeShawn and his agent are hoppin a lil too much due to Kapono’s big contract… I mean I don’t feel like Orlando is gonna re offer him a 10millions 3 year contract, and since every NBA gms have seen DeShawn’s playoffs performance he ain’t gonna hit no huge contract, for me… Still I like him and I feel like Ernie is trying to build Gil’s team, cuz DeShawn needs Gil (and CB3) and Gil likes DeShawn, knowing that a happy Gil is a staying Gil that’s what Ernie is focused on…I hope DeShawn and his agent get back on earth and that the Wiz don’t break the bank for him, which they propably won’t do, cuz we don’t have a full roster and we’re over the cap…
July 7th, 2007 at 1:00 PM
I dont think we should keep DeShawn, we should let him go and get better players
July 7th, 2007 at 1:25 PM
im really hoping we keep DeShawn…. but at what cost? We need to sign other people too.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:56 PM
He plays good defense but i don’t know I think I wasnt impressed after alot of the SG scorched us early part of the season. I’d prefer a scoring two who isnt a defensive liability. Navarro might be a defensive liability against the taller wings but apparently he’s clutch and can score here and there. WE need to keep him and deal either deshawn or AD (whoever matters less to us) along with brendan and etan. or even replace one with songaila if neccesary to get gasol to go along with navarro. Deshawn on a four year contract sucks considering they are already grooming a replacement in nick young. We did need to draft a shooting gaurd to take pressure off our wings and also free up arenas, places like cleveland when they played against us were letting their best guard defender guard arenas, if that happens I want the other position to be a mismatch to stop them from doing that nonsense. With gasol we get the big man magic said we needed
July 7th, 2007 at 4:22 PM
i dont think we are going to get gasol but i do think you have some good points i think we let Deshawn go and keep AD he played alot of min in the playoffs and came up huge but he is older and cant play every game 40+ mins so we keep him and rotate JCN in could be a nice one two punch at the 2
July 7th, 2007 at 5:25 PM
The Post said the mid-level exception may be as much as $6.5M. That changes things. Navarro wants $3M. If the mid-level is $6.2M that leaves $3.2M for Stevenson, which he certainly ought to take.
That would leave us with 3 very good shooting guards, none of whom should be riding the bench. So one should be packaged with one of our centers for a trade. I’m a little worried that Navarro won’t mesh with Arenas well as Stevenson. Navarro’s used to being THE MAN and taking a lot of shots. Moreover, his trade value is presumably higher.
I like AD very much as backup PG for the next couple of years.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:29 PM
if he likes 2 shoot we need to send him to the cavs that will start all kinda trouble over there with King James wanting the ball every set lol
July 7th, 2007 at 8:58 PM
I don’t think anything is going to happen until the salary cap is announced next week. That will determine how much the mid-level exception is.
July 7th, 2007 at 9:16 PM
I now learned that there is a “July Moratorium” on signing free agents. It lasts from July 1 until the audit report is completed and the salary cap set. That’s supposed to be July 11 this year.
Tom, what do you mean by “qualifying offer” to Hayes? Exercise of our option? I presume we’re not going to pay him that ($3.5M). I presume he will, therefore, become an unrestricted FA. If he’s still available after the dust settles I would like to get him back for the minimum.
July 8th, 2007 at 12:39 AM
Mr. Stevenson and his agent, I’m sure, are smart people. Orlando offered him 3.3m over 3 and we are offering him 3m over 4. That is about his worth in the NBA and he should take it, imo. I like his defense, and, his offense surprised me a little this year. He may continue to improve as he is still a young man. Another reason to sign NOW is we now have a few talented people at that position. If Mr. Navarro comes in…. along with Mr. Young and possibly Mr. McGuire, minutes are going to be hard to come by. I don’t see Mr. Hayes returning. I didn’t see him cut to the basket one time last season. every shot was an outside shot. He used to be very effective as a slasher. That part of his game may be lost due to the injuries? Visser looks Big.. I hope he looks good as well.
July 8th, 2007 at 6:36 AM
neal — I think I had the mistaken idea that you couldn’t “low-ball” one of your own restricted FAs. I.e. that you were required to either offer him 120% of his previous year’s salary or declare him unrestricted (at which point you have no right to match).
It’ll be interesting to see what offers, if any, Jarvis receives. I’m afraid he might well have worked himself entirely out of the Wizards’ plans. Of course, he’d be valuable to us at the veteran minimum if that is what happens.
It’ll definitely be interesting to see what happens when the moratorium ends. Our roster is very much in flux, more so than in many years, with at least one center, DS, AD, Jarvis, and JCN all in play.
July 8th, 2007 at 6:40 AM
Checking out the first day stats from summer league in Las Vegas, I see that Portland is trying out Oden and Aldridge on the floor together. Aldridge is my number 1 target for the Wizards, but I see little if any likelihood of being able to acquire him.
Aldridge lit up day 1, btw, with 26 points.
July 8th, 2007 at 8:37 AM
Now the Wiz have offered DeShawn $15M over 4 years, according to the Post. That’s $3.75M per year. He’s a fool if he doesn’t take it. Presuming he does, I doubt there will be enough room left in the mid-level exception to get Navarro too. Which means his rights will go on the trading block.
This gets more and more interesting.
July 8th, 2007 at 10:56 AM
i think overall that DS had a good season. i think it’s not out of his realm to expect a raise from the offer that he turned down last year. having said that, i think that we shouldn’t go too far over 4 yrs, $16M. i think $5M is really kinda getting a little overboard, but 4 i think is good for his skillset and value to our team. for all the negatives that are being pointed out in these posts, he provided alot of spark to our team, and his swag fit right in with our chemistry and will give us some needed continuity to have him back. having a set starter locked up for $4-5M/yr is not the worst thing in the world, folks.
July 8th, 2007 at 2:26 PM
well hopefully they are trying to keep navarro too. I haven’t seen the article where the offer has gone up but hopefully this means they’ve figured something to do salary wise. I think this is the only year we are in cap trouble and only cause jamison is making 16M. I don’t think we can field a good team if he gets that ball park figure in the new future. Hopefully he resigns for cheaper after the year is done and arenas gets his money structured in a way that improves rather than cripple us. Besides arenas is making more money off endorsements and navarro im srure can be commercially successfull.
July 8th, 2007 at 2:40 PM
i believe that there will be room for Navarro if DeShawn takes 3.75 mil it is said to be that the mid-level exception will be 6.5 mil this year
July 8th, 2007 at 3:44 PM
As neal says, this *may* mean that Navarro’s rights will be traded. Although, do we need an exception of any kind to sign one of our own draft choices? Even all these years later?
July 8th, 2007 at 6:42 PM
Yes, Tom, we need to use some exception to sign a 2nd round pick for anything over the minimum. That varies from 1st round picks, for whom there is an exception (but 1st round picks are restricted to a “scale” amount).
Wiz-skins07 where did you hear that the mid-level exception will be $6.5M this year? The Post said “between $5.4 and $6.5 million”. I hope you’re right.
July 8th, 2007 at 6:55 PM
yep thats what the Post said and if it is 6.5 mil we are straight we will be able to sign both
July 8th, 2007 at 9:18 PM
.:MUST READ:.
http://www.nba.com/news/424389.html
YES can we really get Etan off our backs!!! This Would Give Enough For Us To sign DeShawn and Navarro!!!
July 8th, 2007 at 9:40 PM
WizSkins - read the actual article and you’ll see that NBA.com jumped too quick on posting this as news. D.Aldridge clearly states in the article that it’s an idea, not fact.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20070708_On_the_NBA____Next_summer__Sixers_may_spring_into_action.html
July 8th, 2007 at 9:45 PM
BTW, trading Etan doesn’t mean you get to automatically free cap space. When you trade someone, you have to take someone in return unless the team you’re trading to is far enough under the cap that they’ll give you a draft pick.
As for other matters regarding free agency, trades, etc, everyone is free to throw out their ideas here. But remember, don’t confuse reality with fantasy and facts with opinions…
July 8th, 2007 at 10:17 PM
Well wiz-skins07 seems to like these fantasy suggested trades that have zero chance of happening. It’s nice to have the enthusiasm, but it really doesn’t have anything to do with anything real at all.
July 9th, 2007 at 8:00 AM
I would much rather have Etan than Brendan
July 9th, 2007 at 8:30 AM
Contracts don’t pay the same amount each year. In most cases, the first year of a deal is the cheapest precisely because it’s easier to fit the salaries in the cap that way. There are a few cases(Ben Wallace is the one I’m familiar with), where the first year of the deal is the most expensive so that it’s easier to trade a player if things don’t work out.
I don’t fully understand how it works for non-bird players, but I think that the maximum amount you can raise a contract is by 8% of the original salary. If the Wiz offered DeShawn roughly a 4 year 15M contract, then the Wiz wouldn’t be paying him 3.75 per year but probably something closer to 3.3M the first year, 3.56 the second, 3.83 the third and 4.15 the fourth.
I’m not sure whether this will leave the Wiz with enough money to sign Navarro though if he wants a 3 yr 12M deal.
I think that Philly should try trading Miller to the Lakers. I was wondering why there haven’t been any rumors. But I don’t think that Wiz should get involved if they’re only going to get Radmonovic and Hunter. Radmonovic is looking so far like a bust with a large contract.
July 9th, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Good point, odawg. Yes, most contracts are limited to 8% raises. Let’s hope Stevenson’s has 8% raises so that we still have a chance at Navarro. Although, for the right deal, I’d rather trade his rights.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:45 AM
Still I think 15 million seems like a tad much but being as though we brought in Young Deshaun’s role will now be a llittle different Im sure Nick is going to log much more then the 7min & chance Mason had off the bench. Those 30 per Deshawn logged last year will now be about 25 so his numbers will come down but he did play all 82 if he dosent want the money let him leave, if he will take it then we will take him.(we have had a different starting SG the last 3 yrs it didnt hurt that much)
July 11th, 2007 at 11:06 AM
The guy wants 18 million over 4 years let him go. Please dont give him that money. But I dont blame hin were paying Etan & brendan 6 mil AD 5 mil & songila 4 mil and he was just as productive if not more than those guys but there overpaid by a large amount