NAVARRO APPARENTLY A FREE MAN

Now you know why “never say never”* is something to live by.

Last week, when asked about Navarro’s contract situation during his pre-draft talk with the media, Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld wasn’t optimistic about Juan Carlos Navarro being able negotiate a buyout with his team in Europe but did say “you can’t rule anything out”.

That didn’t take long.

According to FC Barcelona’s official website, the team and Navarro “have come to an agreement to negotiate a move for the player to the NBA.”

“I am very happy with the facilities that the club has given me and especially President Joan Laporta for allowing me to make my dream come true and play in the NBA,” Navarro said in a statement released by the European powerhouse.

Several US based online sources, including the Washington Post and DraftExpress also discuss the latest developments surrounding the Wizards’ 2002 second-round pick. NEW: The Post is reporting in their Thursday edition that several teams are interested in acquiring Navarro.

Feel free to move the Navarro talk from the Free Agency Thread to this new one.

More to come, I’m sure…

217 Responses to “NAVARRO APPARENTLY A FREE MAN”

  1. wiz-skins07 Says:

    well as i said in the other thread i believe that we should bring Pau Gasol…him being one of Navarros best friends…not only that but he would be a great addition…he is a good interior presence…i believe that we can pull of a trade AD + Etan or Brendan + our two draft picks in next years draft…i would be willing to give that up considering that Pau Gasol still has 5 years left on his contract…he’s a 20 - 10 guy…which is what we despretely need….and the trade actually works i tried it in the trade machine

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=183~1000~996&teams=29~29~27

    and another thing that i havent mention is what were our 3 biggest problems last year 1.) The defense 2.) Giving the Big 3 a rest 3.) Bench Scoring

    Juan Carlos Navarro can come in and him and Nick Young can automatically give the Big 3 a breather and they can both make our bench one of the most productive benches in the league so with him coming over it automatically solves two of those problems…and also he is said to be a very good cluth shooter

  2. WizardsDotCom Says:

    skins07 - i like your thinking. The question is, is that enough for MEM to accept? My guess would be no…

  3. kg Says:

    I’ve been trying to stay out of this but can’t keep my hands off.This is what I want to see next year.
    G: Gilbert Arenas, Juan Carlos Navarro, Nick Young, Deshawn Stevenson, Roger Mason Jr.
    F: Caron Butler, Antawn Jamaison, Andre Blatche, Darius Songaila, Jarvis Hayes, Pecherov
    C: Paul Gasol, Etan Thomas, Calvin Booth, Michael Ruffin

    If we can trade Gasol for AD and Haywood. I don’t want neither KG nor J O’Neil because I don’t want to split up Big Three.

  4. wiz-skins07 Says:

    WizardsDotCom, i think it would be enough AD + Etan or Brendan + Our Two Draft Picks in Next Years Draft if not we can also throw in Darius Songaila

    Next Roster Would Be:

    PG: Arenas, Juan Carlos Navarro, Roger Mason Jr.
    SG: Stevenson, Nick Young, Rojer Mason Jr.
    SF: Butler, Blatche, McGuire
    PF: Jamison, Pech, Micheal Ruffin
    C: Pau Gasol, Etan, Calvin Booth

    Pech may play occasional minutes at the Center and Blatch at the PF

  5. wiz-skins07 Says:

    we may keep Donell Taylor so he can Play Some Minutes at the SG instead of Roger Mason Jr.

  6. Nara Says:

    I’m doubting that’ll be enough for memphis. They’ll probably want caron or antwan because we won’t get a high pick in the drafts for it to be a good compensation. Unless Pau explicitly tells them that he won’t play for Memphis and wants to be traded to the wizards… I don’t know the feasibility of Pau coming over w/o breaking up the big 3.

  7. FLOYDBT Says:

    Im not liking this it said in the article that if the wizards decide 2 take deshawn over joan carlos then he can leave to any other team……………..but that trade should work the AD,BRENDAN,AND THE TWO DRAFT PICKS FOR GASOL…….i mean if we had gasol WOW imediate contenders also would want to keep gilbert around for sure knowing the team has the chance to go some were!!!!!!!!!!!

    Line Up!!!!!!!!
    Guard-Gilbert,Joan Carlos
    SG-Deshawn,nick young,roger mason jr.
    SF-Caron,Blatch,Mcguire
    PF-Antawn,songaila,pech,blatch
    C-Gasol,Etan,Calvin,Pech

  8. WizardsDotCom Says:

    Floyd - Gasol would probably have to force MEM’s hand to trade him. Plus, remember that CHI was contemplating Deng and a player (can’t remember who) last winter for Gasol. I think that’s something MEM would consider before the scenarios mentioned in this thread. Remember, Gasol is one of the most coveted big forwards in the league - you’re gonna have to give up something sweet to get him. Just because the salaries work doesn’t mean it’s realistic.

  9. Wizards4Life Says:

    yeah i am with you all i wish we could get Gasol but i have to agree with wiz.com and say its probably not going to happen! but EG has probably already put his calls in on that and many other options by now so we need to keep our heads up because you never know what EG is going to do case in point he said that JCN would not be a wizard this year and yet we can get him over now so….. you get the point!

  10. BruceO Says:

    Yeah I wish he forces their hand. I’m really excited about this season too. WE should try and get gasol hes a solid 20-10 guy and he can deal with the likes of tim duncan according to wages of wins he should be above a 0.2 meaning a perfect player for his position and kill most of the east. I also like some of the possible gets from summer league. Visser might become really solid, leon rodgers looks like a solid scorer, jared homan might be our new and improved ruffing and alleyne was underused in college.
    Line up
    guard- arenas, juan carlos
    Sg- deshawn, young, rodgers, mason jr
    SF- caron, blatche, mcguire
    PF- antawn, songaila, pech, visser
    C- gasol,
    I think gasol’s salary is 12M meaning giving up the two C’s and 2 draft picks or one C, AD + draft picks should cover it. I wonder what picking conley jr said about their future plans

  11. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20070704/NOTICIA357002212.html

    Basically says there’s some sort of pre-arranged deal to send him and sign with Memphis. I think the Spanish newspapers are jumping the gun a bit here.

  12. wiz-skins07 Says:

    plus i believe that we would be able to get pau i believe that he would be pushing Memphis to come play for the Wiz and his good friend!!! as long as we keep the big 3 and JCN, Pech, Blatch we can trade anyone else for Pau including draft picks

  13. Tom Mandel Says:

    I love these ideas where we put all our problems in a package and Memphis wants to take them and give up one of the top players in the league for them too. Oh, right….

    We don’t have a likely shot at Gasol, but I wonder whether we have a shot at LaMarcus Aldridge? It’ll only happen if Portland gm Kevin Pritchard is looking for some veteran help and soon-to-expire contracts to balance out his team. Even then, we might have to take back Darius Miles, who is not someone we want, along w/ Aldridge.

    We have 4 guys to bring in right now — Pecherov, Navarro, Young and McGuire. We can bring them in easily enough by letting go of Mason, Taylor, Stevenson and Ruffin (keeping Hayes because someone has to start at the 2, and it ain’t gonna be a rookie).

  14. wiz-skins07 Says:

    but if we were to trade the rights of navarro im not reccominding it but who do you think we could get??? especially if we trade the rights to the Griz they have nobody we want other than Pau

  15. wiz-skins07 Says:

    and i just read an artical and Chicago is trying to get Gasol again.. this time they are offering Joakim Noah, Nocioni and Duhon…i still believe that AD is better than Duhon but then were stuck they have a better proposal then ours…we better look at camby or aldridge

    http://msn.foxsports.com/rumors/nba

    theres..the site it also has other NBA rumors

  16. Tom Mandel Says:

    Miles comes with 3 more years of salary — a total of $26.3m. Portland would do *a lot* to dump that salary and get the last guy from the old regime out of town! But would we be willing to eat it in order to get Aldridge (who gets $4.3m this year)?

    They’d need to take at least 85% of their players combined ‘07-08 salary ($12.6m) in Wizards salary. How would we do that? We’d give them Daniels ($5.8m) and Haywood ($5m). The $$$ works out. Maybe for the trade to work out, they’d want next year’s #1 as well.

    Their upside is that they get a quality backup point guard, which they need. They get a veteran back up center, which they don’t really need. They get another 1st round pick next year — which they can use or trade. They get rid of Darius Miles’s salary. Our upside is that we get a terrific young big guy and get rid of a problem player.

    Their downside is that they lose a terrific young player. Our downside is that we lose a 1st round pick, take on a big salary for several years in a guy we don’t want, and give up a proven backup point guard.

    Note on the salary front: with Antawn’s salary expiring this year, we only have one painful salary year — this year.

    Eric — what’s Ernie’s email address? I think this trade might actually have legs.

  17. Wizards4Life Says:

    lol can we do two trades and unload the big money miles guy that we have no use for ?

  18. Tom Mandel Says:

    What makes the trade work is that *no one* else is going to take Miles.

  19. wiz-skins07 Says:

    we do not need Darius Miles…cant we just trade Brendan or AD plus they first ound draft pick

  20. Tom Mandel Says:

    Another comment of mine — suggesting a possible trade w/ the Jazz didn’t get picked up. they need a backup point; what do they have that we need? Okur, but would they trade him?

  21. Tom Mandel Says:

    People have suggested the Nuggets’ center — Camby. But… he was born in early ‘74. Too old for us?

  22. wiz-skins07 Says:

    can we getr Nene Hilario from the nuggets i think he is better than BRendan and Etan

  23. wiz-skins07 Says:

    we could try getting Brad Miller or Okur…but it doesnt seem as Cmaby is to old because he won the DOP

  24. wiz-skins07 Says:

    would anyone like Emeka Okafur hes averages 14.4 PPG and 11.3 RPG

  25. wiz-skins07 Says:

    or even Tyson Chandler he averages 10 PPG 12.4 RPG 1.8 BPG

  26. wiz-skins07 Says:

    even a samuel Dalembert he’s a 10-10 guy and 2 BPG

  27. wiz-skins07 Says:

    these are all good guys i wouldnt mind to have and most of them dont have the value of Pau

  28. wiz-skins07 Says:

    and if we trade the rights to juan carlos navarro i think we should make them take Etans ugly contract

  29. wizfan4sure Says:

    The only two things that I want to say are;

    Now that we waited 5 years and Juan Carlos Navarro is finally available, the Wizards better not let him go to another team. If they do fumble and let him go to say the Grizz, then the Wiz need to be properly compensated and should get a good player back (like Kyle Lowry) and their number 1 draft pick next year.

  30. Wizzy Says:

    Since we have Juan Carlos in the team we dont need A.D so . Why Dont we trade A.Jamison and A.D + future 2nd rd pick to Mem for Pau Gasol? We have to give up one of the Big3 to get another onw. We have Pech and A.Blatche. Then we can resign D.Shawn for SG. Also, i think we will be good with salary cap. Next year Juan Carlos will get the Sixth Man Award. Sign undraft Kyle Visser and Lee Humphrey.

  31. stevevu Says:

    lets just hope that pao demands a trade to be united with his friend. the only problem is that i don’t really know if juan can play well enough to be as good as AD as a backup if they trade AD.

  32. Wizzy Says:

    I would give up one of the big 3 for Pau Gasol, cause I know what can he bring for us like the BIG3.

    we will have

    G.Arenas
    D.Stevenson
    C.Butlar
    O.Pech
    P.Gasol

    for 1st line up.

    Juan Carlos
    Nick Young
    Dominic McGuire
    A.Blatche
    Kyle Visser

    for 2nd line up.

    So what the Wizards? = Championship contender?

  33. WizDom Says:

    wiz-skins07, Memphis has some good players we can take beside Pau.
    Kyle Lowry, Rudy Gay, Hakim Warrick are some to look at.

  34. Reuben Says:

    I DONT think we should keep DeShawn he always messes up at the end of the Game. The lineup should look like this:

    Gilbert,Juan Carlos,Nick Young,Caron,Donell, Lee Humphrey,Pech,Twan,Blatche,Songaila,Pau,Etan,Dominic McGuire,Kyle Visser,Rudy Gay

  35. Reuben Says:

    Sorry the spacing got messed up

  36. WizDom Says:

    Um.. Reuben, how did we get Pau Gasol and Rudy Gay without giving up anything? :)

  37. Reuben Says:

    We would give up Calvin, Antonio, Roger,Brendan,and Mike hall

  38. WizDom Says:

    oh.. I see.. we’re getting ripped off!

  39. floydanthony Says:

    carlos sizn him now!!! let brendon & deshawn booth haynes leave!! sizn arnas & andray asap don,t let the hit the market for 1 day !! these two guys need to be sizned!!!!!!!!

  40. WizDom Says:

    Rumor has it that we’re trading Etan and Navarro for Posey?!
    hmm…

  41. Wizards4Life Says:

    i dont like that deal but what ever EG thinks is best

  42. DaWizKid Says:

    WizDom Says: “Rumor has it that we’re trading Etan and Navarro for Posey?”

    I read that report as well. I hope it’s a bogus report, but if it’s not it wouldn’t be suprising. Washington Sport Franchises (Wizards, Redskins, Capitals) seem to make the worst phucking trades in the past. To hold Navarro’s rights since 2002, allow him to develop into a perimeter threat and top 5 international player, only to aquire him and immediately sign & trade him for Posey would be a very dumb move. We the least productive bench last year, we desperately need some bench scoring and Navarro would provide that.

  43. Centennial Park Says:

    Etan and Navarro for Posey? Oh, HECK NO!! That is not a good move! Posey is not a player that is worth giving up Navarro in a straight up trade even! That would make me }:\

  44. Centennial Park Says:

    Here is an article from draft express.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2160

    Seems to me that the Posey deal is nothing but a bunch of hooey.

  45. Tom Mandel Says:

    If we were trading Etan and the rights to navarro for James Posey (who btw is a free agent, so how do you trade for him?), it would be in order to dump Etan’s contract.

    I’m sure Ernie isn’t going to make a dumb trade.

  46. Centennial Park Says:

    ‘Tis a heavy price to pay to dump a contract. Oh well……

  47. WizardsDotCom Says:

    TM - Posey could be dealt via sign-and-trade but he’d have to agree to the new destination.

  48. wiz-skins07 Says:

    do you think we can trade etan plus rights to JCN for Mike Conley Jr.

  49. Wizards4Life Says:

    so we unload alot of $$$$ and take on a little 2$ player and then go big in the free agent market ? or we looking to sign and trade Posey? this is got me lost on what we are doing but i know its under control just hope we get what we need soon

  50. GrifonRacing Says:

    Welcome Mr. Navarro! A true point guard, and, a 40% career 3 point shooter. Along with Mr. Young, the 2nd unit this year should be pretty awesome. We have waited 5 years for Mr. Navarro, it’s pretty unlikely, imo, that we will let him go easily. To be honest, I hope we aren’t even considering it. My biggest hope is that Kyle Visser comes up big in the summer league. And… who is that 7′ 3″ guy??? It should be a wild summer league. A lot of good players on our roster this time. I believe all games are going to be broadcast on CSN this year too!

  51. wiz-skins07 Says:

    but over all i think we should keep JCN unless we get an offer that is to tempting and we cannot deny…but not for posey…i mean come on no offense but, EG wat are you smoking??? do u fell ill??? we might as well just get him in free agency over deshawn…yes he has great defense…but isnt that why we drafted McGuire??? do you think the wiz shouuld go after emeka okafor after all Jordan is that teams GM and who draft JCN??? emeka is a 14.4 PPG 11.3 RPG 2 BPG

  52. wiz-skins07 Says:

    yes i also hope we arent even considering trading JCN…but what ive been reading some fans do…what do you think we would give up for okafor??? brendan a UNC guy which Jordan seem to love anyone from UNC…Darius Songaila and our 1st or 2nd rounder in next years draft

    do think it’ll do the trick??
    Brendan + Darius + A Pick In Next Years Draft

  53. WizDom Says:

    The Posey deal might be smoke and mirrors… Memphis wants JCN and might be willing to give up enough to get him…

    Lowry for Etan and JCN?.. and maybe an option to swap 08’s picks…

  54. GrifonRacing Says:

    Hey Guys… TM, Eric, WD et al

    Is Mr. Navarro still held by NBA rules for a rookies salary? Is it a 3 year controled thing like as if we had drafted him this year? I’m lousy at the financial end of sports!

  55. GrifonRacing Says:

    something to consider financially, I’f I’m right. No guarantee of that though lol.

  56. WizDom Says:

    I believe its no.. he was picked in the 2nd round… so no rookie salary scale in affect here…

  57. wiz-skins07 Says:

    after thinking it through i think we should trade JCN…do you know how much fire power this team would have…we would have the best offense in the NBA…JCN can be our Barbosa or maybe even better Sixth Man of the Year…if we make any moves i think it should be to get Emeka Okafor…he’s a 14 PPG - 11 RPG guy and he has good defense i believe we would be a championship contender…since we would let two guys go and just one come in i say sign Kyle Visser

    Next Years Line-Up:

    1st Team:
    Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Okafor

    2nd Team:
    JCN, Young, Blatch, Pech, Etan

    Others:

    AD, Mason Jr., McGuire, Calvin Booth, Visser

  58. GrifonRacing Says:

    IF Visser doesn’t come up big in the summer league (sigh) I’m expecting to lose 1 of the big 3. C’mon Kyle! No Pressure lol. We need to keep our team captain here until his contract expires, then, rework one that will keep him here to finish his career on a Winning team! Our Team!

  59. wiz-skins07 Says:

    after thinking it through i think we should trade JCN…do you know how much fire power this team would have…we would have the best offense in the NBA…JCN can be our Barbosa or maybe even better Sixth Man of the Year…if we make any moves i think it should be to get Emeka Okafor…he’s a 14 PPG - 11 RPG guy and he has good defense i believe we would be a championship contender…since we would let two guys go and just one come in i say sign Kyle Visser

    Next Years Line-Up:

    1st Team:
    Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Okafor

    2nd Team:
    JCN, Young, Blatch, Pech, Etan

    Others:

    AD, Mason Jr., McGuire, Calvin Booth, Visser

  60. wiz-skins07 Says:

    sorry for the repost..but you should consider reading it!!

  61. WizDom Says:

    How do you suggest we get Okafor?…
    I don’t know how good Visser is.. so far, sounds like a Peter Ramos to me.

  62. GrifonRacing Says:

    OH God… WD.. I Hope NOT!

  63. GrifonRacing Says:

    Wiz… did you mean “should not” trade JCN? your post makes more sense that way.

  64. GrifonRacing Says:

    and I AGREE lol

  65. wiz-skins07 Says:

    the Bobcats have about 12 mil in cap space maybe Brendan and Darius should do the trick and you could add and 1st or 2nd round draft pick Emeka makes about 4 mil a year and etween brendan and darius about 7 mil the trade would work considerin they’re cap space….and from wat i have heard is that Visser is the highest rated non-drafted rookie….some draft scouts had him going in the early 2nd round he averaged 17 ppg and 8 rpg at wake forest for some reason some one said he was 7″ 3′ but he’s only 7″ 0′

  66. wiz-skins07 Says:

    o yeah my mistae yeah it should say not trade JCN

  67. wiz-skins07 Says:

    after thinking it through i think we should *NOT*trade JCN…do you know how much fire power this team would have…we would have the best offense in the NBA…JCN can be our Barbosa or maybe even better Sixth Man of the Year…if we make any moves i think it should be to get Emeka Okafor…he’s a 14 PPG - 11 RPG guy and he has good defense i believe we would be a championship contender…since we would let two guys go and just one come in i say sign Kyle Visser

    Next Years Line-Up:

    1st Team:
    Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Okafor

    2nd Team:
    JCN, Young, Blatch, Pech, Etan

    Others:

    AD, Mason Jr., McGuire, Calvin Booth, Visser

    sorry i made a mistake in the other posts

  68. GrifonRacing Says:

    No Wiz… there is a 7″3″ guy on our summer league roster (please don’t ask me to spell his name lol). Was just wondering who he was and how good he was. I was “not” refering to Mr. Visser.

  69. wiz-skins07 Says:

    o i havent seen him on there..o okay i see Shagari Alleyne he’s 7″ 3′ git you but wat do you think about my propsal to get okafor??

  70. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=379&page=stats

    o amn all this guy has is tallness wat is he doing on our roster?? consider lookin at his minutes per game when you look at his point and rebounds

  71. GrifonRacing Says:

    I have mixed emotions. I don’t want to give up Antawn, but, unfortunately, he is the big buck guy in his last contract year. To get Okafur we are probably going to lose him. Would O be a good addition.. OH YEAH!

  72. wiz-skins07 Says:

    also look at his basic stats per 40…please dont tell me he isd another Peter John Ramos…wat a waste of money that would be

  73. GrifonRacing Says:

    Hey… he could be the best “bench warmer” in NBA history?

  74. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i dont want to give up antwan…maybe our two draft picks may get it done and knowing how much MJ like UNC guys (Brendan)

  75. WizDom Says:

    Okafor is a top notch up and comer in the league… I don’t think thats enough to get him.

  76. wiz-skins07 Says:

    haha your really funny Grifon

    i gotta agree with you on that one

    i mean how could you be worse than Peter John Ramos??

  77. GrifonRacing Says:

    Not exactly the stats I wanted to see lol

  78. wiz-skins07 Says:

    maybe add AD they are in need of a point gaurd now that Knight is leaving

  79. wiz-skins07 Says:

    Brendan + AD + Two Draft Picks for Emeka Okafor

  80. GrifonRacing Says:

    WD

    AJ alone… no… but we would lose him just the same. I’d rather we had a big man “step up” and be able to keep AJ. Ok it’s a dream, but, it’s my dream LOL.

  81. WizDom Says:

    They released Knight because they don’t want him.
    Felton is a good PG.
    With Jason Richardson’s contract, I don’t think they can absorb the contracts anyways.

  82. wiz-skins07 Says:

    Brendan + AD + Two ‘08 Draft Picks for Emeka Okafor should do it

  83. wiz-skins07 Says:

    but other tha Felton who do the have??? AD would be a good veteran for them…and thats how much space they have including Jason Ricardsons Contract

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

    just select the Charlotte as the first team and at the bottom of thier roster it says their cap space which is $10,759,419 thats already including Ricardson’s $9,999,999 contract

  84. GrifonRacing Says:

    I know it’s easy to do living in the “now”. Don’t get into the practice of giving up future draft picks as a very good center/general manager for the Bullets/Wizards did for a decade. It comes back to bite you.

  85. wiz-skins07 Says:

    true Grifron but if we didnt we would have to give up Jamison and i know nobody wants that

  86. wiz-skins07 Says:

    and once we have Oksfor under our belt i think our team should stay toghter for the next 3 or 4 years

  87. GrifonRacing Says:

    True Wiz… TRUE.. Ok this time I’ll make the WU exception…rofl

  88. wiz-skins07 Says:

    lol..ha

  89. wiz-skins07 Says:

    plus at the end of the season i believe Jamison would come back and he would be a good 5 mil cheaper

  90. WizDom Says:

    That trade thing isn’t right.. looks like it’s listing the players at their 06/07 salaries and it doesn’t include Brevin Knight. Even thought they released him, his salary still counts towards their cap. Also, Gerald shouldn’t even be on there… If they re-sign Gerald, he’s looking at 10+ million a year. Matt Carroll also re-signed at six-year, $27 million contract.

  91. GrifonRacing Says:

    C’mon KYLE… No Pressure? nite all

  92. Wizards4Life Says:

    wishful thinking IMO but cant put anything past EG and MJ is a lofty GM at best if there were any one that thought wow K. Brown sounds like a good 1st round pick “that would be MJ” then he would trade you Shaq and Kobe for Haywood and a tube sock & paper clip so he could mcgiver him into a good player

  93. GrifonRacing Says:

    W4L

    Now That’s Funny (lmao)

  94. wiz-skins07 Says:

    hahahaha Grifon u just got some competion

  95. GrifonRacing Says:

    ok I mean it now. as I exit stage left, laughing as I go, thinking WOW we could have a pretty awesome team next season, given recent developments? Go Wizards!

  96. WizDom Says:

    You make MJ sound like a complete idiot… lol
    alot of GMs that year would’ve taken Kwame Brown 1st.
    sure.. he did make some mistakes but he also cleared cap space which led us to getting Arenas… getting rid of Juwan’s contact.. signing Larry Hughes…
    Getting Brendan Haywood..

  97. wiz-skins07 Says:

    WizDom you gotta listen to W4L he’s rihgt

  98. wiz-skins07 Says:

    yea he cleared up space here as he has over there…i dont remember what site i saw he current salary cap space but they were a good 10 mil under

  99. wiz-skins07 Says:

    and they would include Matt Carrols new deal b/c he hasnt sign yet free-agents arent allow to sign until July 10…and from wat i’ve heard Gerald Wallace wont be returning to the bobcats

  100. GrifonRacing Says:

    No WD is actually right… MJ got us out of a horribole financial straight (he will no doubt never get credit for doing so, but, he should!) He paved the path for EG in the post WU days that darned near killed the franchise. Ernie came in post Michael getting us out of financial ruin and built a team of real players! Never Ever say MJ didn’t have a profound impact on the Wizards! KB was his only mistake.

  101. wiz-skins07 Says:

    true

  102. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i thought you were leaving Grifron..i guess this topic is to interestin..lol

  103. GrifonRacing Says:

    Ok I REALLY Mean it (lmao) I’m going to bed…. Go Wizards!! Nite Wiz and WD, W4L et al

  104. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i think that Emeka Okafor is the only one we really have a shot at…i believe we have not shot at LaMarcus Aldridge..nad i say them because with them we may not have to trade any off or big three or our off season aquisitions

  105. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i wish Tom Mandel was here to read this i know he would have stuff to say

  106. Nara Says:

    bobcats aren’t trading emeka unless they get caron or gilbert. Emeka’s too important for them. Just because salaries work doesn’t mean they’ll want our dumps.

  107. Nara Says:

    correct that, they probably won’t trade him even for caron unless they get caron plus an arm and a leg for emeka.

  108. Nara Says:

    I think the most realistic scene is darius songalia and antawn jamison playing more time off position at 5 with Eddie Jordan going small and we end up trading one of our centers for a non-center since there’s ABSOLUTELY NO CENTERS AVAILABLE for a decent price in this league anymore.

  109. stevevu Says:

    As for mj, another mistake that he made was trading away rip hamilton for stackhouse and other people i dont remember. I think that was a pretty bad trade.
    Also, if the wizards need to give up one of the big 3, probably jamison, for a big like gasol, i wouldnt oppose it. yes i know that jamison is the leader, but i feel that caron is more valuable and that he can step up as leader. You need an inside presense to win a championship and not a bunch of perimeter players, unless you have mj or are the pistons with 4 allstar calliber players. look at the spurs big 3, parker ginobli( who navarro is compared to) and duncan, to the nets, kidd carter and jefferson. on eteam has bunch of rings with a good big and the other has neither.

  110. wonderbask Says:

    Greetings from Basque Country in Spain. Here the notice is that Memphis will try to get Navarro for playing with Pau, but I think that WASH has a good posibility for getting both wonderful players. I know Juan Carlos Navarro (his nick is “la bomba” = the bomb) since he was a junior, he is a star in Europe but don´t confuse about him, he is not a PG even he always knows what team needs, he is a terrific shooter, a whole SG, even he can play at small 3. Don´t be afraid, he is not a rookie, we are speaking about a wonderful player. I have just read in your blog that there are some dubts about him but I can sure that he is better than Barbosa, D. Stevens and M. Carroll. And please, don´t lose the chance for Gasol, he will give you 20-10 everynight.
    I would propose a trade for A-D + E. THOMAS + SONGAILA
    Next WW team:

    ARENAS NAVARRO BUTLER JAMISON GASOL

    MASON STEVENSON HAYES PECHEROV HAYWOOD

    TAYLOR YOUNG McGUIRE BLATCHE BOOTH

    Go Wizzards, the Championship is yours!

  111. Tom Mandel Says:

    I remember when MJ traded Rip for Stack, I thought it was ok. But Rip continued to develop. And *everybody* thought Kwame was the real deal — all over the league. Then when we traded a lottery pick (#5) and 2 players for Jamison, I questioned the deal — but that one turned out to be just fine!

    So I conclude that trades are hard to get right, but the guys who are GMs usually know more than I do!! No surprise, right?

    For example, I *don’t want* to give up the rights to JCN, and I don’t want Posey. Even though Ernie knows more than I do, I’m looking at that kid’s dynamism and thinking he can really light up a team. Now, when I do that, I’ve got Ginobili in my head. He has been huge. Who wouldn’t want someone like that? But no one knows in advance that a guy is going to turn into a killer player like that.

    Getting out from under Etan’s contract would be a *big* step forward for the Wizards. I like Etan — as a player and even more as a person! — but he is overpaid and Brendan is a better center. Is it worth losing the chance at JCN to dump the contract? I don’t know. I’d sure rather trade it to Portland w/ jcn and get LaMarcus Aldridge, but that deal probably doesn’t make sense.

  112. wiz-skins07 Says:

    okay, so if you guys say it is not possible to get Emeka then i guess we will have to stay with the same team and play jamison and pech at he 5

  113. stevevu Says:

    it just occured to me that whenever eg said that something was unlikely to happen it happened. he said that it would be unlikely to find a guy at 16 who can contribute right away and get into the rotation, but i think that we got that guy in young. he said that it is unlikely that navarro would be playing for them this upcoming year, but now he happens to be available to sign. lets just hope that eg says that it is unlikely that a trade for gasol will happen.

  114. Tom Mandel Says:

    We don’t know that Young will get into the rotation or that Navarro will be playing for us. We only know that Navarro has the option to negotiate with us, given to him by his Barcelona team.

    Still, it *would* be great to get Gasol. :)

  115. wiz-skins07 Says:

    and if we do get Gasol there is no reason why Navarro wont want to play for us….plus i believe that Young Will be the back up SG he’ll get his 15-20 min a game

  116. WizDom Says:

    If we’re trading for Gasol, I think we have to give up something major..

  117. Wizzy Says:

    How about trading Antwan and Etan + 2nd rd picks for Gasol. I wouldnt mind trading A.J . I know he is a floor leader and all but we get another leader back but in the better position “Center”. We had enough guys who can played SF,PF. so we dont need to trade for another F. We need a true C not F.

  118. odawg Says:

    If we trade for Gasol we’ll have to include Caron Butler or Arenas. Without Gasol, Memphis is pretty terrible and doesn’t have a chance to compete in the near future, so having Jamison for a year would be a waste. And Memphis wants a young all-star in return for Gasol.

    Of course, even if we lose Butler, if we have Gasol, Arenas, Jamison and Navarro then we have a great chance to make it to the championship.

    I think that Butler, Haywood and A.D for Gasol would be a reasonable starting point for a trade.

  119. wiz-skins07 Says:

    thats true Wizzy….we have ALOT of depth at the PF position and Pau would automatically come in and center Maybe Antwan + Etan (ugly contract) + 1st round pick in 08′ draft (i dont think they would take 2nd rounder)

    Starting 5:

    Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Blatch or Pech, Pau Gasol

    Second String:

    JCN, Young, McGuire (defense), Blatche or Pech, Haywood

    Third String:

    Daniels, Taylor, Darius, Visser, Booth

  120. wiz-skins07 Says:

    odawg, there is no way we trade Butler if we are going to trade someone its going to be Jamison

  121. kg Says:

    If we can’t get Gasol or Okafor without breaking the big three, I won’t take any. I won’t even trade JCN for defensive minded player. All we need is a center who can rebound well at the end of the game and shoot freethrow well. Other than that, we don’t need 20-10 guy. David Lee could be a good one but I don’t think we could get him.

  122. kg Says:

    can we get David Lee easily? Now Knicks already have Zach Randolph and Eddie Curry.

  123. odawg Says:

    wiz-skins07,

    I’m not sure that we would trade Butler either, but that would be who we’d have to trade. If Memphis trades away Gasol, then that means they’re going to have rebuild their whole team. You saw how bad they were without him last year.

    You can’t rebuild your team with Jamison especially since his contract runs out next year. I don’t think that they’d even want Jamison so much. But Butler is a quality building piece for a young rebuilding team.

    And it’s a lot easier to get a quality SF in the draft then a quality C.

  124. WizDom Says:

    The only post that makes sense is odawg’s….
    There’s no chance they’re going to take Jamison and Etan plus picks for Gasol… They don’t want Etan’s contract… and don’t need Jamison’s expiriing deal..

  125. WizDom Says:

    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20070705/NOTICIA357006049.html

    Can someone translate this?

  126. kg Says:

    from business point of view, JCN will be good for internationl attraction and jersey selling in Spain.

  127. gil4MVP Says:

    i dont know about trading AJ, he was a beast in the playoffs. I think we should keep JCN and give him a try this season. He has experience and proved that he is a worthy player in the FIBA championship.

  128. wiz-skins07 Says:

    kg i gotta agree…david lee is easier to get now and he’s a 10-10 guy which is exactly what arenas said he would like a SCRAPPY CENTER THAT CAN GET BOARDS

  129. wiz-skins07 Says:

    who do you think we can trade to get him

  130. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i wish we could get hi mbut it will be hard to because the Knicks are WAY OVER the cap

  131. edry09 Says:

    Look at this:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=77~183~1980~1000~385~26~996~125~515~2444&teams=29~29~7~7~7~7~27~27~29~29

    this is a 3 team trade between WIZ, DENVER and MEMPHIS which would send:
    -AJ, Haywood, Hayes and Atkins to Denver
    -K-Mart, JR Smith,AD and Booth to Memphis
    -Camby and Pau Gasol to Washington

    We should now have as first line up:

    ARENAS
    STEVENSON
    BUTLER
    GASOL
    CAMBY

    and 2nd lineup

    NAVARO(TAYLOR)
    YOUNG (MASON)
    MC GUIRE****
    BLATCHE (SONGAILA)
    THOMAS (PECHEROV)

    ****We should bring via free agency a SF like Gerald Wallace

    WHAT DO YOU THINK????

  132. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://www.nba.com/news/423426.html

    there is no way we trade him to our rivals the HEAT OR THE CAVS

  133. wiz-skins07 Says:

    edry09 this trade is perfect gasol and navarro are happy

    Wizards

    Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Gasol, Camby

    Denver

    Blake,???, Melo, Antwan, Brendan

    Mamphis

    AD, JR Smith, ???, K-Mart, ????

  134. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i think everyone will like especially if we throw in som draft picks (ESPECIALLY FOR DENVER)

  135. wiz-skins07 Says:

    (AND MEMPHIS)

  136. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20070705/NOTICIA357006049.html

    Juan does NOT want to come to Washington. He fears Arenas won’t be here next season and that the Wizards don’t have a shot at winning the championship. His first choice is Memphis, and his second choice is Miami.

  137. wiz-skins07 Says:

    he would play if we brought in Pau Gasol

  138. RonBurgundy Says:

    this is what got me in what he was saying….the article implies that we don’t have “excessive aspirations,” but hell, does memphis? in fact, i’d say the wiz have as much shot as miami of getting to the finals right now….and memphis…MEMPHIS? at this point, memphis’ aspiration is to not lose 60 games….question: can gasol opt out anytime soon? if we keep JCN maybe gasol will just come play for us at some point

  139. kg Says:

    even if he doesn’t want to play for us, I’ll still keep him on bench the whole year. We’ve been waiting so long for this. Can’t let him go without keeping him for at least a year. lol

  140. Wizards4Life Says:

    he dose not want to be here because we have no shot at a ship but wants to go to the Griz get outa here this guy must have been over there in a cave….i say we send him to the cavs an get larry back he played nice Ball beside Gil. then you add in the fact that we wont need him to take over a game we just need him to play some D

  141. wiz-skins07 Says:

    W4L nice thinking…we should get Larry Hughes back (why did we let him go in the first place he was nice) but for that we should trade hime there with etan or brendan and a draft pick..i dont think the would take him alone for larry…plus we dont have the cap space to trade only JCN for Larry…….Larry makes like 11 mil a year

  142. Wizzy Says:

    what you all think of trading A.D and A.jamison and Etan + picksfor Pau Gasol and Rudy Gay. We have Nick young who can played as SG, SF. Resign D.Stevenson. Sign n trade Hayes and Haywood. Well everything is depend on E.G. Whatever he did, its will be the best for Wizards Org.

  143. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i would do anything except trade gil and caron for pau gasol

  144. Wizzy Says:

    The front Office consider really good this year. Get a really good Defensive Coach. Now Cavs,Bulls are on the rise and sooner or later East will become West so. I really consider getting A CENTER. If they know what the Wiz rival were doing. Gotta be better. Cels, Knicks, Rapts,.. the rest of Eastern Conf: teams are working really hard now. We should be sitting in our a$$.

  145. Wizzy Says:

    sry wrong spell. ” we shouldnt be sitting on ure a$$.”

  146. winnow07 Says:

    Get rid of: Hayes, Ruffin and Booth (take a chance on a pair of young bigs rather than resigning these guys who have had years to prove how untalented they are)
    Must keep: Arenas, Butler, Navarro, Young, Pecherov, Blatche
    Tradeable: Haywood, Thomas, Daniels, Stevenson, and Jamison.
    JAMISON is great at putting up points but we need an inside force. Plus, we will lose Jamison after this year anyway to free agency. Grunsfeld will wisely not resign Jamison to the 16 mil/yr that he will ask for in free agency. One because he plays no defense and two because hes 31 years old. So keeping him is pointless, we are not going to win a championship this year. Wizards nation can set their sights on an NBA title in 2 years or 3 years, but we are not going to win it all next year. By keeping Jamison, it is likely that we will get nothing in return for him when he signs with somebody else in free agency, whereas we might be able to trade him for a legit big man this offseason either with a team that wants to clear up some cap space after next year or one that views Jamison as having several more good years and wants to resign him @ the 16 mil/yr he will ask for in free agency.
    HAYWOOD AND THOMAS
    We will NEVER win in the playoffs with Haywood and Thomas down low. NEVER, simple as that. Look at recent NBA champions bigs: Shaq, Duncan, Ben Wallace, Hakeem Olajuwon. Since 1990, only the Bulls with MJ the greatest player of all time have been able to win a championship without a powerful post presence.

  147. WizDom Says:

    http://www.bombanavarro.com/cat/web/index.php

    Can someone translate from his official site.. I believe he’s answering questions.

  148. kg Says:

    does anyone know where I can download or buy the some of the wizards games from last year?

  149. Tom Mandel Says:

    I think he says that basically it’s up to the Wizards to decide what to do with his rights. What’s most important for him is to play in the nba and help a team. Memphis would be good because Pau’s there, but that could change. Miami would be good because people in the area speak Spanish. But, in the end, it’s up to Washington. His representatives are handling the negotiations.

    In other words, he is being diplomatic and professional — on the other hand, the site is in Catalan (i.e. not Spanish, though close), and for all I know he said the opposite of what I got out of it! :)

  150. WizDom Says:

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-26-14/Navarro-Dreams-of-the-NBA-More-than-the-Wizards.html

    Thanks TM,
    I think I found a translation (some of what you said) and some more info.

  151. wiz-skins07 Says:

    well lets just hope we can get a defensive minded center that can get us ALOT of boards they can suck on offence for all i care we have maybe the best offense in the league if we sign JCN hint *Ben Wallace* but i think he is out of our range unless Pau goes to Chicago and we trade the rights of JCN to chicago

  152. wiz-skins07 Says:

    the site WizDom put up is interesting you should read…according to Navarros agents/reps plan A is to play for the Wizards!!!!! he is asking for something less than the MLE and they also said that all the stuff about JCN not wanting to play here and wanting to play for Memphis or Miami is not him it is just the press which believes that he would be better accomidated there because they are more spanish speakers…but what the heck there are a lot of spanish people around here

  153. wiz-skins07 Says:

    can you imagine AGENT ZERO and AGENT BOMBER fighting for the Championship

  154. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Rebounds.jsp?league=00&season=22006&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&splitScope=GAME&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&splitDD=

    here’s the rebound stats for last year

  155. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i would really comsider this

    edry09 Says:

    July 5th, 2007 at 2:16 PM
    Look at this:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=77~183~1980~1000~385~26~996~125~515~2444&teams=29~29~7~7~7~7~27~27~29~29

    this is a 3 team trade between WIZ, DENVER and MEMPHIS which would send:
    -AJ, Haywood, Hayes and Atkins to Denver
    -K-Mart, JR Smith,AD and Booth to Memphis
    -Camby and Pau Gasol to Washington

    We should now have as first line up:

    ARENAS
    STEVENSON
    BUTLER
    GASOL
    CAMBY

    and 2nd lineup

    NAVARO(TAYLOR)
    YOUNG (MASON)
    MC GUIRE****
    BLATCHE (SONGAILA)
    THOMAS (PECHEROV)

    ****We should bring via free agency a SF like Gerald Wallace

    WHAT DO YOU THINK????

  156. RonBurgundy Says:

    all of this sounds encouraging…although it comes off more like diplomacy than anything. whatever, i’ll take it. if he’s willing to play for less than the MLE, then that’s super….

  157. RonBurgundy Says:

    ****We should bring via free agency a SF like Gerald Wallace

    WHAT DO YOU THINK????

    i think wallace is completely out of reach in terms of salary. besides, we don’t need a 8-10M/yr player at SG, we need someone serviceable, a good role player that complements the big 3. that’s personifies DS. JCN personifies what we need coming off the bench. JCN, young, pesh, mason (?) and songaila can cure the bench scoring problem we had last year…

  158. JakeTheSnake Says:

    I wouldn’t take Navarro’s comments as a major concern, I mean sure he’d like to play along side his friend Pau Gasol or play in Miami where he would be a little more marketable, but I don’t think this will turn into a Yi Jianlian situation if there isn’t a sign and trade. As long as JCN is serious about playing in the NBA, than I’m pretty sure he’ll play with Washington. With that said, if JCN does end up playing in D.C. I don’t think it helps the chances of getting Gasol all that much, at the end of the day Chicago, and probably several other teams can offer much better packages than the Wizards.

  159. wiz-skins07 Says:

    but what do you think about the trade??

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=77~183~1980~1000~385~26~996~125~515~2444&teams=29~29~7~7~7~7~27~27~29~29

    this is a 3 team trade between WIZ, DENVER and MEMPHIS which would send:
    -AJ, Haywood, Hayes and Atkins to Denver
    -K-Mart, JR Smith,AD and Booth to Memphis
    -Camby and Pau Gasol to Washington

  160. RonBurgundy Says:

    that’s a great trade in theory, but i just don’t see it happening…if we can manage to only give away one player that we really want and end up with camby AND gasol, grunfeld would be executive of the century…most of the trades i’ve seen on here are good in terms of salaries working, but in terms of realism, i dunno….

  161. ChenierFan Says:

    Give a lot of credit to Grunfeld for upgrading the talent level on the Wiz. This guy Young looks like a starter to me. I am not a big Stevenson fan and don’t think he is a capable NBA starter. He really fell flat when Arenas got hurt and showed that he is a marginal NBA starter. He would work best coming off the bench against second-line players. Jamison should also reprise his role as sixth man which he did with great success when he was with Dallas and was voted sixth man of the year award. The starters need to be tall, strong and athletic and the young guys (Pech, Blatche, McGuire and Young) are. I say let’em go.

    As far as this guy, Juan Carlos Navarro (or is it Ferrero?), isn’t he playing at Wimbledon tied with Federer 5-5 when the rain halted play? He should be resting for the upcoming season. Seriously, this is another coup for Grunfeld. This gives the team a lot of options.

    I can’t wait to see how this guy Visser plays in the summer league. The scuttlebut is that he could be a real sleeper.

  162. RonBurgundy Says:

    i don’t agree. DS definitely cannot come off of the bench. he wasn’t effective with gil and caron hurt because he can’t create his own shot. if you cannot create your own shot as a SG, you have to be on the floor with someone that can get you open shots.

  163. neal Says:

    Whew. Just printed out the 72 page salary cap document. I didn’t feel like I could deal with all the new possibilities w/o understanding the cap exceptions. So I’ll use it to put me to sleep tonight.

    Never knew Spanish fluency wouldn’t get me anywhere with Catalan. I couldn’t even figure out what language I was looking at.

    How big is Navarro? Is he a 1 or a 2?

  164. JakeTheSnake Says:

    wiz-skins07 - As for the trade, I’d love it if it happened but I don’t think that Denver would go along with it. Part of the reason why they might shop Camby around is because they can play Nene and K-Mart down low and still be effective. I don’t think Denver would be as thrilled with Nene and Haywood. I think the only way the Wizards could land Camby would be to trade Daniels, either Haywood or Songaila, and probably a draft pick. Gasol would almost have to demand that he be traded to Washington in order to get there in my mind, Washington would almost have to give up Butler in order to get Gasol and I think we can both agree that just isn’t going to happen.

    Ron - While it’s true that DS struggles to get his own shots, you could probably say that about 90% of players that don’t start in the NBA, that’s what makes them bench players. If they had the skill to create their own shots, they’d probably be a starters wouldn’t they? Don’t get me wrong, I get your point but you also have to remember that it’s very rare that both Caron and Gil are both off of the court at the same time, and when they are both off the court it usually means that the game is already in hand, at which point Stevenson would be facing players closer to his skill level where he’d be able to create his shot more easily.

  165. RonBurgundy Says:

    Jake - i def. understand that most bench players have the same affliction as DS, but i feel like he has qualities that we need on the floor given the prowess of the big 3. i don’t think you necessarily have your best 5 players as your starters, sort of like ginobili being a 6th man for the spurs…it’s about who complements one another. in my opinion, if DS is coming off the bench, we might as well let him walk. his salary demands may get out of hand anyway. i get the feeling that he’s gonna use kapono’s contract as a precedent for what he should get. for his sake, i hope he does’t end up overvaluing himself two years in a row

  166. GrifonRacing Says:

    Hi Guys. First of all Tom.. Wow I’m very impressed with the translation! Very Cool. Wiz… that trade sounds great, but, remember it came off of ESPN’s “put your players in and see what numbers work” site. Nobody has reported that as a trade possibility. That being said.. Yes I’d go for that lol. Reading WD’s full translation of Mr. Navarro’s post made me feel a lot better. Maybe instead of Mr. Navarro being enticed to Memphis to play with Pau… Pau may be enticed to come to Washington to play with Juan??? I’ve know EG to pull off bigger surprises?

  167. wiz-skins07 Says:

    i would like to get david lee or marcus camby

  168. wonderbask Says:

    Hi guys, here from Bilbao, Basque Country (Spain). You are not in Houston but I have a problem, my spanish is perfect but my english awful, so it´s not easy for me to translate what spanish´s newspapers say. “El mundo deportivo” from Barcelona (Navarro´s town) says that Navarro would like to play with Pau, but in this moment Gasol´s future is not clear, there is an important offer from Chicaco (Nocioni + Duhon + Noah). Even Washington has a competitive team (if Gil decides to continue next year), Miami is a nice town for living and a stronger team, and they loves Navarro´s game too.
    About the contract, newspaper says that Navarro wants to sign for 12 millions $ in 3 years. He is a professional but not a guy who is always looking for money. I´m sure he is considering the best team for making a succesful career in NBA, and Wizzards has a great oportunity.
    How big is Navarro? He is an 6′ 4″ true shooting guard, but he can play at 3 too, I think that he will be a excelent complement for Gil at the perimeter, a terrific danger for the defenses and at the same time a serious and compromised player who makes his teammates better. He is a clutch player, a man who often decide the match with the definitive shoot (yes, I know you have Gil too). It is true that can be compared with Ginobili and Barbosa, even Navarro is better shooting from long range. I have seen him a lot of times changing the sign of a hard match with an incredible serie of 3.points shoots without fail. Oh, guys, you don´t already know the spectacular player you can get next.
    Pau Gasol will be the perfect complement at the paint. I would trade Daniels + Hayes + Haywood for Gasol.
    How good is San Antonio Spurs planification work!, its first draft election, the young brasilian Tiago Splitter is an athletic and formidable center, he will be grow at Duncan´s shadow.
    Congratulations, you´ll be happy with “la bomba” and trade for Gasol.

  169. Reuben Says:

    I read that Navvaro does not want to be a Wizard because he thinks Gil will leave.

  170. wiz-skins07 Says:

    yea you read that but he also stated yesterday that those are all rumors

    as i said earlier in this blog his plan is to play for the Wizards!!! and i believe that he can start over DeShawn as well can Nick Young buti say let DeShawn walk if he already reject a 12 mmil 3 year offer….and if that is truely what JCN wants i would give it to him no doubt

    Starting Line-Up:

    Gilbert, JCN, Caron, Antwan, give Blatch or Pech a shot

  171. wiz-skins07 Says:

    would anyone be interested in David Lee

  172. wiz-skins07 Says:

    or Camby

  173. wiz-skins07 Says:

    its hard to get Lee though because the cap space that the Knicks have

  174. wiz-skins07 Says:

    maybe a draft pick because i don think the knicks will use him as often with Randolpf and Curry on the block

  175. kg Says:

    for David Lee, I guess they’ll probably want a veteran point guard AD to run along with Stephen Murbury. And they can give us J. Jefferies(Probably not) or Jerome James(probably because he’s another center Knicks might not need) with D. Lee. But the thing is we need to get rid of one of our centers, so….I don’t know is there any way to make it happen.

  176. wiz-skins07 Says:

    get rid og booth ruffin

  177. wiz-skins07 Says:

    maybe trade brendan

  178. WizDom Says:

    wonderbask, thanks.. your english is great.
    I haven’t heard anything much negative from international fans.
    How is his Defense though?

  179. wiz-skins07 Says:

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2007/07/more_of_the_latest.html

    reasd this it is interesting…but its says here that DeShawn may be wanting more than what he got offered 4 years = 12 mil…him and his agent have recongnized Matt Carrols big ugly contract and also Jason Kapono’s

  180. wiz-skins07 Says:

    they are small role players and getting pay big money…if it is like this maybe we should give Jarvis another shot he is no that valuable on the market and may not even make half of the MLE he played better defense that DeShawn did on LeBron…but it also says that Cleveland is interested in JCN if we could get them to take Etans ugly contract and get Larry Hughes back we wouldnt even have to worry about signing DeShawn imagine the Big 4…plus Larry plays better defense and is better offensively than Stevenson…

  181. wiz-skins07 Says:

    I think a guy like Drew Gooden would address an immediate need for the Wiz on the front court. If the Wiz could deal Etan and the rights to JCN in exchange for Gooden and maybe squeeze a #2 pick out of the deal, I’d take it.

  182. wiz-skins07 Says:

    oh and by the way even if the Wizards do disappoint next year, I don’t think there’s any way that they fire EJ, not until Gilbert signs an extension with the team. He’s on record as wanting EJ and his system to remain in place, and I think the Wizards will pay attention to that.

  183. wiz-skins07 Says:

    another thing is that Nick Young will eventually replace DeShawn why pay a guy to sit on the bench??

  184. JakeTheSnake Says:

    Ron-Alright, I think I get what you’re saying now, and I agree with you that if DeShawn gets the money that he’s looking for than he would have to start to make it worthwhile and I’m not sure that they can ensure that it will happen. Part of me would still love to have him on the team in some role or another but with all these high contracts that guards like Stevenson are getting, it seems less and less likely that it will happen.

  185. RonBurgundy Says:

    there’s just so many scenarios and speculations right now, it’s insane. it seems like there’s the opportunity to package JCN or AD with etan or blatche and bring back a number of players that can help: a big SG or a frontcourt guy….for instance, if we offered AD and etan and that brought back an expendable SG like magette or hughes (which i don’t think i’m a fan of, his contract os ignorant), you upgrade the SG position, and at the same time we wouldn’t need to sign DS, could sign JCN, and dumped etan’s salary. magette makes 8m for the next 2 years, and he could be a pretty good complement…i don’t even want to talk about hughes’ contract, BUT having him would make gil happy again and could placate him for letting DS walk…OR we could package AD or JCN and blatche and reel in an even better player. i’m not necessraily for or against any of these ideas, but the fact remains that there’s so much flexibility for a different roster from the one that we see now and certainly from the one that we had as of the end of last season

  186. odawg Says:

    If DeShawn doesn’t accept a 4 year 12 Mil year then he can see what other teams offer him. Personally, I’m not sure he’s even worth that.

    The fact is he got exposed once Arenas got hurt. He can’t get you any points unless he’s a fourth or fifth option. Even during the playoffs he still wasn’t the main option(that would have been AJ) and he got completely shut down.

    If he waits too long, the Wiz will sign Navarro and DeShawn will simply have to settle for another minimum contract.

  187. wiz-skins07 Says:

    Hughes would be perfect he makes about 12 mil and Etan is making about 7 mil thatsonly 5 mil more and then deduct the money we would waste on DeShawn about 3 thats only 2 mil more for Hughes trade JCN and Etan for Hughes i would love Larry back he was a great player over here and seems mto like DC but for me that would be the final roster move unless we trade AD for a “scrappy” center…plus Hughes plays better defense and offense than DeShawn..after all the defensive hype Jarvis was better defensively than Stevenson

    Imagine:

    Gilbert Arenas, Larry Hughes, Caron Butler, Antwan Jamison, and Brendan

    It wouldn’t be the Big 3 it would be the Big 4

    2nd Team:

    Antoinio Daniels(for now), Nick Young, Darius Songaila,Andray Blatche, Pech

    Third Team:

    Rojer Mason, Donell Taylor, Dominique McGuire, ??????, Kyle Visser

    they would all get along and with Etan gone maybe Brendan can actually focus on playing basketball and getting boards…maybe he can spend some tim with the new coach to get better defensively as well as Antwan

  188. RonBurgundy Says: